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12/30/12 10:00 PM
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Reed Rothchild - JDS made the mistake of leave his hands down... He'll be back as a champion again Phone Post
They were down ALMOST the entire fight....right after that 1st round bomb by Cain is when they never came back up.

Here's my personal opinion of what we just saw. JDS was getting a bit cocky after stuffing multiple takedowns in the 1st round and actually saw Cain show that he was frustrated when he slapped the mat after another JDS escape. While his hands weren't down, I think instead of getting confident, JDS crossed the line and started to get cocky....which is a very fine line to cross. He might have thought that the fight was going to continue like that or he stopped fearing Cain's offensive capabilities and had a brainfart when Cain landed that fucking BOMB of a punch...a punch that would've ended the just about every other HW fighter's night. While it didn't KO JDS, I whole heartedly believe that JDS actually got a concussion. Not the normal, everyday MMA/UFC concussion that we barely notice every event but see on the suspension list, but the type of concussion that you see when an NFL player gets one and is sidelined 6 weeks. While he continued to fight, I think he was just a shell of a man, a walking knockout so to speak. I've personally never seen a fighter seem so out of it confused for an entire fight the way JDS did in this fight. There were moments where JDS seemed not to know what was going on.

Anyway, congrats to Cain on a great performance and reaching the top of the HW mountain again, and congrats to JDS for managing to get knocked out in round 1(in my opinion) but lasting through all 5.

And, I agree with everybody here saying what a bullshit, classless act by the crowd to boo JDS, one of the nicest and classiest people in MMA, especially after showing the kind of heart that he did to survive all 5 rounds when another HW fighter would likely have been finished in rds 1 or 2.

Sorry for the FRAT. Phone Post

He just gassed, didn't get cocky at all IMO, he already slowing down after a couple minutes
I think the extra muscle was an impairment to him Phone Post
12/30/12 10:04 PM
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Vulva Fabulous -  I honestly have no idea how it managed to go 5 rounds.

As impressive of a fight that Cain fought, I am just as impressed that JDS somehow managed to NOT get stopped. Phone Post

Because Cain tired out early on too after all those shots JDS stuffed. Joey just didn't feel the need to point it out. After all JDS had been the champ for over a year yet Cain is still the one getting all the commercials. Was a damn good fight. JDS deserves an immediate rematch against the winner of Cain vs Overeem. I am sure he'll take another fight between now and then rather than just wait like so many other "contenders" have in the past.
First of all Juniors sponsored by nike, and what the fuck makes you think Junior deserves an immediate rematch after getting completely destroyed for all five rounds? Him having enough heart to last that destruction doesn't warrant a title shot. Phone Post
12/30/12 10:09 PM
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Blazing Knees - What I learned from this fight.

Don't underestimate Cain ( I still don't like him)

Dos Santos is tougher than a $ 2.00 steak

That Dos Santos resembles Frankenstein

That it was the worst HW fight I've ever seen- sloppy, stumbling, gassed after the 1st round debacle.

That I am forced to watch an immediate rubber match whether I like it or not.

Lol at worst HW fight, and junior getting an immediate rematch. Stop watching mma you dumb fuck. Phone Post
12/31/12 10:08 AM
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Soooooooooooo happy with Cain's win. Funny how there was just an article up about Cain's inability at avoiding hits. And the best boxer in the HW Division couldn't get a square shot on him.

Also, proof that any shot to back of the ear is going to take most people out.
12/31/12 1:36 PM
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Reed Rothchild - JDS made the mistake of leave his hands down... He'll be back as a champion again Phone Post
They were down ALMOST the entire fight....right after that 1st round bomb by Cain is when they never came back up.

Here's my personal opinion of what we just saw. JDS was getting a bit cocky after stuffing multiple takedowns in the 1st round and actually saw Cain show that he was frustrated when he slapped the mat after another JDS escape. While his hands weren't down, I think instead of getting confident, JDS crossed the line and started to get cocky....which is a very fine line to cross. He might have thought that the fight was going to continue like that or he stopped fearing Cain's offensive capabilities and had a brainfart when Cain landed that fucking BOMB of a punch...a punch that would've ended the just about every other HW fighter's night. While it didn't KO JDS, I whole heartedly believe that JDS actually got a concussion. Not the normal, everyday MMA/UFC concussion that we barely notice every event but see on the suspension list, but the type of concussion that you see when an NFL player gets one and is sidelined 6 weeks. While he continued to fight, I think he was just a shell of a man, a walking knockout so to speak. I've personally never seen a fighter seem so out of it confused for an entire fight the way JDS did in this fight. There were moments where JDS seemed not to know what was going on.

Anyway, congrats to Cain on a great performance and reaching the top of the HW mountain again, and congrats to JDS for managing to get knocked out in round 1(in my opinion) but lasting through all 5.

And, I agree with everybody here saying what a bullshit, classless act by the crowd to boo JDS, one of the nicest and classiest people in MMA, especially after showing the kind of heart that he did to survive all 5 rounds when another HW fighter would likely have been finished in rds 1 or 2.

Sorry for the FRAT. Phone Post

He just gassed, didn't get cocky at all IMO, he already slowing down after a couple minutes
I think the extra muscle was an impairment to him Phone Post

was he really that much bigger or muscular than his usual?
12/31/12 1:38 PM
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Reed Rothchild - JDS made the mistake of leave his hands down... He'll be back as a champion again Phone Post
They were down ALMOST the entire fight....right after that 1st round bomb by Cain is when they never came back up.

Here's my personal opinion of what we just saw. JDS was getting a bit cocky after stuffing multiple takedowns in the 1st round and actually saw Cain show that he was frustrated when he slapped the mat after another JDS escape. While his hands weren't down, I think instead of getting confident, JDS crossed the line and started to get cocky....which is a very fine line to cross. He might have thought that the fight was going to continue like that or he stopped fearing Cain's offensive capabilities and had a brainfart when Cain landed that fucking BOMB of a punch...a punch that would've ended the just about every other HW fighter's night. While it didn't KO JDS, I whole heartedly believe that JDS actually got a concussion. Not the normal, everyday MMA/UFC concussion that we barely notice every event but see on the suspension list, but the type of concussion that you see when an NFL player gets one and is sidelined 6 weeks. While he continued to fight, I think he was just a shell of a man, a walking knockout so to speak. I've personally never seen a fighter seem so out of it confused for an entire fight the way JDS did in this fight. There were moments where JDS seemed not to know what was going on.

Anyway, congrats to Cain on a great performance and reaching the top of the HW mountain again, and congrats to JDS for managing to get knocked out in round 1(in my opinion) but lasting through all 5.

And, I agree with everybody here saying what a bullshit, classless act by the crowd to boo JDS, one of the nicest and classiest people in MMA, especially after showing the kind of heart that he did to survive all 5 rounds when another HW fighter would likely have been finished in rds 1 or 2.

Sorry for the FRAT. Phone Post

He just gassed, didn't get cocky at all IMO, he already slowing down after a couple minutes
I think the extra muscle was an impairment to him Phone Post

was he really that much bigger or muscular than his usual?

4 Kilos of muscle I believe he said in an interview.
12/31/12 1:40 PM
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Enemies - Soooooooooooo happy with Cain's win. Funny how there was just an article up about Cain's inability at avoiding hits. And the best boxer in the HW Division couldn't get a square shot on him.

Also, proof that any shot to back of the ear is going to take most people out.

im a fan of both so was happy and disappointed at the same time just like i was the first fight.

as far as jack slack's article, he's def got some great striking insight and good dicussion for us but like anyone, can overanalyze and miss certain things. i believe he used the Kongo fight for example which was ages ago and where Cain has improved since. Not that Cain is now imune to getting hit but his head movement is pretty good and sometimes its just who gets who first or who dictates.

there was ironically another article about JDS' holes in his striking which Cain could exploit and did. I believe that writer focused more on the boxing than the combindation of boxing and wrestling and were the threat of the td is a major factor that affects the boxing but another view on the holes of the other fighter.

in the end, Cain did what he had to do and JDS failed.

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