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1/8/13 5:47 PM
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Your experience and 6th sense are worthy of noting, Master Tik.

1/8/13 5:51 PM
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please let this thread end with a video of a skype call from Rickson to Antonio.

or a video of Roger walking in on Antonio's class.

1/8/13 5:52 PM
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I'm a Mod and over 10 years here, and I vouch for mmaguy. As well my contact with Rener .

1/8/13 5:54 PM
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mmaguy30 - someone asked me for "proof" via screen shot or posting the email...

this was done via voice call with Relson, you dont text or email that dude...

My reputation here is the only proof I can offer...

As far as what I have via Relson, I cant state it as "proof" and cant "prove" it either...

I am willing to bet its solid enough for all of us here, but it is what it is...

I say we light up some torches and try and get a peepee taste video.

Awesome stuff! Just waiting to hear back from the UK BJJ community on the progress of the MMA guy going to visit there Weds night, and possible dojo storm from local clubs. Cant wait! 

1/8/13 5:55 PM
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I'm a Mod and over 10 years here, and I vouch for mmaguy. As well my contact with Rener .


No worries bro, now that we know the dude is a fraud, everything that is said and doen with regards to getting Antonio to stop teaching can be done so with conviction!.

We Gon' find you!

1/8/13 5:58 PM
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I don't think he needs to stop teaching. But he need s to remove all the false bs he is claiming.

If somebody is dumb enough to still pay him after that, so be it.

1/8/13 6:00 PM
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Here's the UK FB thread, as posted on Bullshido.

1/8/13 6:31 PM
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FRAT and FFAT.

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1/8/13 6:32 PM
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The gym owner isn't returning emails, several dudes are angling to head over to the gym and roll with Antonio.

1/8/13 6:59 PM
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I don't think he needs to stop teaching. But he need s to remove all the false bs he is claiming.

If somebody is dumb enough to still pay him after that, so be it.


If he has legitimate qualifications to teach anything he should be allowed to teach it. However pretty much all of his martial arts C.V (TKD, BJJ, Muay Thai, and NASM coaching qualifications) have all been either fraudulent or unable to be verified.

1/8/13 9:14 PM
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1/8/13 10:02 PM
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1/8/13 10:35 PM
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Oh yeah!!

Will be funny if mma fighter goes there and gets his ass kicked by these masters

Mary is a great instructor and taught me everything I know about the triangle..... Phone Post
1/8/13 10:45 PM
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Dude if there's an old school dojo storm that gets video'd and posted I'll mark the fuck out lol
1/9/13 1:59 AM
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1/9/13 4:11 AM
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To be honest, a dojo storm in Guildford is about the silliest thing I've ever heard of. Anyone that knows the place will probably agree Phone Post
1/9/13 7:13 AM
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BJ bashed into McDs mincemeat -  Oh yeah!!

Will be funny if mma fighter goes there and gets his ass kicked by these masters

Mary is a great instructor and taught me everything I know about the triangle..... Phone Post

um, right.

1/9/13 7:38 AM
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UPDATE: Guy on Bullshido (obv friend, student, colleague of Antonio's) accuses the local legitimate BJJ club (Andy Roberts BJJ, blackbelt under Roger Gracie) of being jealous of Antonio's BJJ and students and says the whole thing has been masterminded by him:

"Firstly I am extremely disappointed in anyone that has actually taken part in this thread.  The owners of this site have been contacted to get this removed immediately.  How dare any of you make allegations such as these?  The fact is that Andy Roberts has headed up this whole group because he is losing student's left, right and centre.  FACT!  He is clearly jealous of Antonio and all the comments on here have originated from his students.  I really hope Karma bites him on the arse because this show's his character!  Anyone taking part in this discussion in a slanderous manner, should not even be in the Martial Arts field.  NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER!  Now to the legalities, a personal email has been used, and a private photo taken from Facebook.  On top of this, i think you will find that Defamation law places necessary restrictions on what we are able to say about other individuals or companies. For the most part, people are free to speak as they will, but when it can be shown that unjust criticism was levelled at someone who was undeserving of it, and it caused significant harm to some aspect of their life, there are quite rightly various forms of legal recourse for them to take.  I suggest anyone who has any sense, withdraw from this thread immediately because legal action is taken!" - Respect 72

Source: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=119465&page=4

1/9/13 7:52 AM
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1/9/13 8:05 AM
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mmaguy30 - ^ Dave Lang pulled the same shit, accused The Bombsquad of being jealous of his accomplishments and trying to "steal" students from lang MMA by making false accusations.

If he is legitimatly a brown under Rickson, it should be very easy for him to contact Rickson, and have him help clear this up... I am SURE that Rickson would be willing to contact Relson, or Torrence, and have them relay the msg to one of us here...

Dennis at Connection Rio could do a quick interview with him like he did with Wallid... It might be a bit tougher to get Rickson off his surf board than it was to get WAllid to sit down, but I would be willing to bet a Gracie that finds out a guy is not only teaching in his name but profitng from it would be willing to do what it takes to clear the situation up...

That would be fantastic, as he seems to be trying to throw this all on Andy Roberts and is trying to turn it around to tarnish a legitimate Roger Gracie blackbelt. He is currently asking Bullshido to take down the thread there, claiming it is unlawful defamation. He is scurred. 

1/9/13 8:19 AM
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Another quote from the '3rd party':

"This is a third party, who happen to personally know Antonio and therefore speaking on his behalf.  We are also a lawyers and gaining evidence.  He has provided Kickboxing, Thai Boxing and Tae Kwondo certificates to his Academy.  With regards to NASM, i think the checks that were done were not through.  The NASM in the UK were contacted not the NASM in the USA.  NASM records are disposed of after three years.  Speak to the Academy i think you will find, Antonio is a 4th Dan.  This behaviour is so disrespectful towards a Master."  -Respect72

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=119465&page=4

 

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So they are wanting to play hardball and take it down a legal route, even when we have information that shows the academy told someone via PM that Antonio was a Rickson brown belt, which has now proven to be false? Is this rea life? Or is it a desperate attempt to make this all go away? I think we know. Anyways its heating up on the Bullshido thread, hopefully they can show us the certificate saying Rickson gave him his brown belt, then bit can be shown to Rickson directly via contacts here.

Keep up the good work. 

1/9/13 8:23 AM
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1/9/13 8:36 AM
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TTT for justice.

1/9/13 8:39 AM
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Facebook have just removed the thread with over 250 comments based off the initial questioning of who gave Antonio his belt on the UK BJJ Underground. 


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