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1/11/13 9:44 AM
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Timothyk - Do you really think this girl went over to hang out with a bunch of dudes, and not have sex with any of them? Do you know how many girls have trains run on them? Or like to be hit while fucked? Or lie about rape to soothe parent anger?

Definitely sounds like someone who has been accused of rape multiple times, you already have all your excuses and rationalizations ready to go.
1/11/13 10:05 AM
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HELWIG - 

"It is tough and I feel awkward exposing so much personal info on a public forum. I feel strongly, though, that if at least one person is stopped from the toxic effects of the horrible imagery of MTV, GGW, and porn, someone will benefit."

 

Thanks for sharing.

The toxic influence of both porn and the trash culture in general which is glorified by the media, has a very real effect on kids growing up.

 


True story. 


 

so sad...

1/11/13 10:23 AM
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Slowshot - Dude, maybe I'm a horrible person, but I definitely knew a girl who got a train run on her, and she was absolutely down with it.

I've also known girls who liked it rough (like "smack me in the face" rough).

I've ALSO known a girl who claimed she got raped because she got drunk and banged a dude, and regretted it. (she later recanted).

So, I'm not saying that it's okay to rape girls, but I'm also not getting all the hate for TimothyTk, or whatever his name is. It's not like it's unthinkable that he's right, you know? The kind of mentally f-d up to be into getting gangbanged it wouldn't shock me if she's the kind to be into rough sex.

There were convictions. Timothy was absolutely wrong and you are seriously fucked up.

I don't think I am. I think I didn't read the thread carefully. Guilty as charged. I didn't realize there was documented evidence.
1/11/13 10:32 AM
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Walnuts - Holy hell, look what this piece of shit is doing now:

"Lloyd Irvin purchases LloydIrvinRape.com, turns it into a marketing site"




http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/11/3864948/mma-bjj-ufc-lloyd-irvin-purchases-lloydirvinrape-marketing

Why would he do that? is it for when people search for his name with the word rape that shows as the top result or something?

That's exactly what I think he's doing.

1/11/13 10:37 AM
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Heel Hooker - If Lloyd were to come clean, make a pulbic apology and do some pennance eg. free rape classes at shelter's for a year or a huge donation to a rape crisis centre what would you think?

Would be nice.. but wouldn't change my opinion of him. Why didn't he do those things before these things came out to the public?

1/11/13 11:13 AM
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Walnuts - Holy hell, look what this piece of shit is doing now:

"Lloyd Irvin purchases LloydIrvinRape.com, turns it into a marketing site"




http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/11/3864948/mma-bjj-ufc-lloyd-irvin-purchases-lloydirvinrape-marketing

Why would he do that? is it for when people search for his name with the word rape that shows as the top result or something?

That's exactly what I think he's doing.


The site is up and running.
1/11/13 11:30 AM
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No. I'm not a tax attorney. As more of the story comes out, it looks worse and worse for Lloyd Irvin.
I was only cautioning about making wild inferences not necessarily supported by the known facts. Again, as more facts have come out....
1/11/13 11:36 AM
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JOB - Why has this thread not made the front page of MMA.tv?

The same reason you don't Fr. Brendan Smyth on the cover of Ireland's Own
1/11/13 11:41 AM
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Timothyk - Do you really think this girl went over to hang out with a bunch of dudes, and not have sex with any of them? Do you know how many girls have trains run on them? Or like to be hit while fucked? Or lie about rape to soothe parent anger?

this.... is really bad.
1/11/13 11:42 AM
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Timothyk - Do you really think this girl went over to hang out with a bunch of dudes, and not have sex with any of them? Do you know how many girls have trains run on them? Or like to be hit while fucked? Or lie about rape to soothe parent anger?

Do you know how retarded you'd have to be to be a 20 something year old guy and think "hmm having group sex with this 17 year old girl who has been drinking all night definitely sounds like a good idea"

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1/11/13 12:08 PM
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props to bloody elbow for not shying away from covering this
1/11/13 12:10 PM
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Are ya kidding? Bloody Elbow is loving the hits they will generate from this

1/11/13 1:12 PM
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HELWIG - "It is tough and I feel awkward exposing so much personal info on a public forum. I feel strongly, though, that if at least one person is stopped from the toxic effects of the horrible imagery of MTV, GGW, and porn, someone will benefit." Thanks for sharing. The toxic influence of both porn and the trash culture in general which is glorified by the media, has a very real effect on kids growing up.

Never thought I'd read something like this said on the UG. Well, said Helwig. Well said indeed.

1/11/13 2:10 PM
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supercan - Furthermore, there is no 12 year old girl on planet earth, that if you asked her what she looked for in a Prince Charming, would say, "My dream is to be with a big, strong, handsome man that will sweep me off my feet, bring his friends over to run a train on me, slap me in the face and punch me while he monster fucks me, and force himself into my anus. That would be wonderful and I would like to marry him!"

Do NOT fall for the notion that women want those type of things. They may ask for it, and think they want it, but it is because something happened to warp that woman's perception of pleasure and what she should do to please.

When I first met my wife, she was a "freak". She was crazy! She wanted to do everything! She wanted it real rough in almost every way. It was a bit awkward for me. I wasn't used to that. Finally, one night during sex she asked me to fuck her in the ass. She asked it while we were fucking and through gritted teeth. As I was preparing, I said something like, "Are you sure? Alright. If you want it. And as long as no one has ever forced you." She almost immediately stopped in her tracks, fell down on the bed, and began to sob. She had been forced. Her first sexual experience was rape. She proceeded to tell me in detail about her first experiences. Needless to say, her "boyfriend" at the time, when he would do things like hog tie her (these are 14/15 year old kids, mind you), would say that, "This is what they do in porn, and the people in porn are professionals at sex. You learn from the pros."

My wife got seriously warped by all of it, and it has taken years to unwind all of that and help her process all of it. Thankfully, she is happy and healthy. We have a great relationship. We have an amazing sex life. However, simulated violence and abuse is no longer part of it. And, no, we don't just do missionary.

It is tough and I feel awkward exposing so much personal info on a public forum. I feel strongly, though, that if at least one person is stopped from the toxic effects of the horrible imagery of MTV, GGW, and porn, someone will benefit.
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1/11/13 2:16 PM
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1/11/13 5:18 PM
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I think what disturbs me most is how LI keeps trying to maneuver his way out of this mess. Instead of owning up to his past, he is taking his obnoxious marketing strategies to new, deplorable levels.

It's becoming impossible not to question his character. If he continues to bury his head in the sand and show no remorse publicly, how can anyone believe he has matured at all from the 20 year old kid who stood by while his friends gang raped a minor?
1/11/13 5:32 PM
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Thanks, torquemada and YVES. I've been through a lot with my wife, so this story hits close to home.

I find it very disturbing that so many people, particularly males, attempt to defend every possible form of warped, underground, porn- "hardcore", "she wants to get beaten up, pounded, trained, gang-banged, ass fucked" type of sexual deviancy, juuuuust up to the line of "actual" rape.

Instead of a clear line, people's minds have gotten all jacked up about what is considered decent and normal sexual behavior. Does it have to be boring? Hell no. Can it be a bit 'authoritative'? Yes. It's a primal and natural thing for a woman to enjoy a "strong" man having sex with her and really "giving it to" her to a certain degree. But this idea of a young girl wanting a bunch of drunk, brutish, obnoxious, violent men to "train" her is ludicrous. Even if she requested it, there are deeper issues there, and a half-way decent, moderately self-aware, adult man that is 20 years old would have left the scene.

Even if Lloyd didn't forcibly rape that young woman, he engaged in some twisted activity that would make me want to keep my distance from him in every way, unless he openly and transparently acknowledged what happened, and was able to clearly articulate how he has altered his way of thinking and acting. He said himself that he WOULD HAVE had intercourse with the girl if he could get it up. Even if she wanted it, his decision to engage in unprotected, gang- one-after-the-other sex after several other men is disgusting.

We own a gym. We were just beginning to look in to Lloyd's program and marketing. We discussed it at our last staff meeting. Now, there is no way in hell we will do anything that has his name attached to it. Never. I don't care if he can make us MMA Kazillionaires.
1/11/13 5:52 PM
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Timothyk - Do you really think this girl went over to hang out with a bunch of dudes, and not have sex with any of them? Do you know how many girls have trains run on them? Or like to be hit while fucked? Or lie about rape to soothe parent anger?
You ready the "rape crew" thread on the OG? Phone Post
1/11/13 6:37 PM
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supercan, you are awesome. I'm voting you up every time I see you.
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supercan - Furthermore, there is no 12 year old girl on planet earth, that if you asked her what she looked for in a Prince Charming, would say, "My dream is to be with a big, strong, handsome man that will sweep me off my feet, bring his friends over to run a train on me, slap me in the face and punch me while he monster fucks me, and force himself into my anus. That would be wonderful and I would like to marry him!"

Do NOT fall for the notion that women want those type of things. They may ask for it, and think they want it, but it is because something happened to warp that woman's perception of pleasure and what she should do to please.

When I first met my wife, she was a "freak". She was crazy! She wanted to do everything! She wanted it real rough in almost every way. It was a bit awkward for me. I wasn't used to that. Finally, one night during sex she asked me to fuck her in the ass. She asked it while we were fucking and through gritted teeth. As I was preparing, I said something like, "Are you sure? Alright. If you want it. And as long as no one has ever forced you." She almost immediately stopped in her tracks, fell down on the bed, and began to sob. She had been forced. Her first sexual experience was rape. She proceeded to tell me in detail about her first experiences. Needless to say, her "boyfriend" at the time, when he would do things like hog tie her (these are 14/15 year old kids, mind you), would say that, "This is what they do in porn, and the people in porn are professionals at sex. You learn from the pros."

My wife got seriously warped by all of it, and it has taken years to unwind all of that and help her process all of it. Thankfully, she is happy and healthy. We have a great relationship. We have an amazing sex life. However, simulated violence and abuse is no longer part of it. And, no, we don't just do missionary.

It is tough and I feel awkward exposing so much personal info on a public forum. I feel strongly, though, that if at least one person is stopped from the toxic effects of the horrible imagery of MTV, GGW, and porn, someone will benefit.

fuckin a man, that shit gave the chills. thanks for sharing. vtfu!
1/11/13 6:53 PM
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UGH

check this out

http://i.imgur.com/fBg5h.png
1/11/13 7:00 PM
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Yeah, dude. Check out - www.lloydirvinrape.com

The fact that he knowingly chose to register that name, specifically because it will deflect anyone typing "lloyd irvin rape" into a search engine away from the links to his past...that's pretty fucking twisted.
1/11/13 7:03 PM
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NHBStriker - supercan, you are awesome. I'm voting you up every time I see you.
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1/11/13 8:16 PM
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Looks like he took the rape website down. It was up for me earlier, now it has a domain holder page instead.
1/11/13 8:48 PM
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Not looking good for LI. Has he made any statements addressing this?! Phone Post

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