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1/14/13 4:32 PM
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1/14/13 5:20 PM
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I've always had the highest respect for David and Marcus.

I'd like to know their feelings on the subject.

 


3) From Marcos Avellan-

"Chloe (Keenan's Sister), you are writing on a public forum something that should be private with Keenan. Nobody wants to answer you truthfully because you are his sister, myself included. The reality is that the lack of support your family is showing for a team that has done so much for your Keenan is disgusting.

What do you know about Master Lloyd Irvin? He has put a roof over your brother's head for years now, he has poured his heart and soul of martial arts into him, he has taken him ALL OVER THE WORLD (how much did your Dad pay for his current trip to Brazil?), he has given him counsel as a man, and has welcomed and loved him like family.

Now what you DO NOT KNOW about Master Lloyd? What happened in that apartment 22 years ago. You weren't there.

So what do you and your family do? You decide to crucify him publicly. Awesome.

Meanwhile, your parents tried to do the same thing a few weeks ago about something completely unrelated and it backfired on their facebook. Your dad tried to call Lloyd's business consulting a scam - meanwhlie your Dad is doing gym consulting without even owning a gym. I'm not saying your dad is scamming people... I'm just saying he isn't in a position to be throwing stones... most people would consider it shady to be charging for advice on a business that you have failed at succeeding at. I'm not saying your Dad's advice is bad - I've never heard it - but I think it was very ironic. Now this...

It makes me wonder if your family has any skeletons in their closet from the past 25 years to add to their hypocrisy even more.

Out of appreciation for every thing Master Lloyd and TEAM LLOYD IRVIN has done for me, I will always give the benefit of the doubt to them when I don't have all the facts - not the other way around.

Lloyd Irvin's 1990 case has NOTHING to do with Nick and Mateo.

But it is great that you can focus on the first negative thing to happen out of so many darn awesome things to come out of TLI. Keenan should that patch with pride - just like anyone else from that team. It is an amazing group and a couple of bad apples does not ruin the entire fruitful and amazing crop.

I respect Keenan so darn much so I hesitate in writing this message. Keenan can delete this if he likes, but this is just too much."

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1/14/13 5:21 PM
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Sorry, Marcos.

What's known, by "Master" Lloyd's testimony in court, is that he tried to participate in the gang-rape of a 17 year old college student.  You've dropped off the list of people I respect.  You're an apologist for someone who slithered under a rape charge.  Disgusting.

1/14/13 5:22 PM
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Does he make all the students call him Master Lloyd?
1/14/13 5:24 PM
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http://www.lloydirvinrapeexposed.com/
1/14/13 5:27 PM
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LittleJoeMama - Does he make all the students call him Master Lloyd?
Yes. I never understood that. "Master" in terms of BJJ is red/black belt. Phone Post
1/14/13 5:29 PM
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Marcos BS about Tom (Keenan's Dad) trashing LI marketing stuff on facebook is garbage. I was in and commented on that thread.

What Tom had said was that school owners should be wary of taking advice from someone charging thousands of dollars promoting the idea of your school being the place that charges people for every nickel and dime and turns students into $$

He NEVER said LI at all until Marcos jumped on and started going off about it. EVEN THEN Tom didn't say anything bad, Marcos kept hinting that Tom was the scam.

For those that don't know Tom owned and operated VERY successful schools, made tons of money in the industry and created many programs still in use today (by the likes of LI)

He closed his schools after many years to focus on being a martial artist that does more than charge people big money for exercise. He's been there, done that.
1/14/13 5:30 PM
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Sorry, Marcos.

What's known, by "Master" Lloyd's testimony in court, is that he tried to participate in the gang-rape of a 17 year old college student.  You've dropped off the list of people I respect.  You're an apologist for someone who slithered under a rape charge.  Disgusting.


Yep. Fuck you Marcos Avellan.
1/14/13 5:33 PM
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I've asked to be removed from Marcos's mailing list, and asked David to remove me if he shares the opinion of his brother in this matter.

1/14/13 5:39 PM
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Unsubscribed from Marcos email and twitter. He is not being honest (re Tom) and he is defending a scumbag who admitted to attempting to rape a girl
1/14/13 5:42 PM
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I'm sorry, but life isn't Disney movie. Rape is something that stains you as a piece of shit for life, because you're a piece of shit. Everyone wants the world to move on and leave Limp Lloyd alone but I wonder how well the victim has moved on with her life? He should have "Got out of rape trial cause he can't get his dick up" subtitled under his name whenever he is on TV or giving some speech until SHE has forgotten and moved on about it. Fair is Fair right?

http://s3.sidereel.com/episodes/142341/featured/299e.3.22.jpg

Oh, and IMO, the way his crew is reacting and speaking out about it (like on Facebook showed here) shows EXACTLY how sorry and remorseful Lloyd is. He may not have spoken publicly about it but you can bet your last damn dollar they've spoken amongst themselves about it and WHATEVER Lloyd said allowed his crew to feel this way and speak so disrespectfully about it. What was said we won't know, but you can let your imagination do the work...
1/14/13 5:44 PM
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Every time I grab a kimura tonight I'm going to feel dirty

1/14/13 5:45 PM
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1/14/13 5:47 PM
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Daammmn, not looking good for Lloyd. Someone should get a hold of the co-accused in lloyd's rape case to see if they can get some more info on that night he was accused of rape
1/14/13 6:01 PM
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Not a good look for avellan Phone Post
1/14/13 6:13 PM
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Getting off a rape charge because of erectile dysfunction is like being convicted of attempted murder. Neither one makes someone less guilty, and should hold the same consequences as the actual crime. Being an incompetent and/or impotent scumbag is not somehow better than just being a scumbag.
1/14/13 6:13 PM
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Holy hell @ Marcos Avellan preaching about "full disclosure"

Is this piece of shit just trolling us? No way he doesn't see the irony.
1/14/13 6:15 PM
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Wow this shit is crazy. Phone Post
1/14/13 6:26 PM
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What....Lloyd Irvin raped WarMachine?????
1/14/13 8:19 PM
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Has John Kopenhaver released any further comments?

1/14/13 8:47 PM
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Marcos looks like a dick here. Shame on him.
1/14/13 9:03 PM
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Fixed - not sure where I got the alcohol factor from, but it wasn't in either of the two stories.  Did notice that the jury wanted to convict him of lesser charges, but that option was denied by the judge.

 

"Master" Irvin participated in the gang-rape of an underage girl in 1990.  He was acquitted by exploiting a loophole in the law regarding his actions as an accessory to the gang-rape by claiming that although he wished to participate in the beating, rape, and forced sodomy of a 17 year old girl, he was temporarily unable to achieve an erection.   Jurors asked if they could convict Lloyd Irvin of lesser charges, but were denied by the judge when attorneys agreed that it would be grounds for appeal.He has never publicly apologized for his actions, or taken any responsibility.   Five of his co-conspirators were convicted and sentenced.

When two of his students violently beat and raped a female student from his academy, he closed his public web-pages, quickly purchased the domain 'LloydIrvinRape.com', and issued several news releases regarding his rape-prevention seminars.  This was an overt attempt to control search-engine results and further bury his despicable actions.  He then brought his public pages back online and immediately deleted any questions regarding his prior history as an enthusiastic participant in gang-rape.  This is the person that you are supporting by attending his seminars or enrolling in his schools.  He is without an ethical backbone, and an unfit role model.  He is the lowest form of a man.  He is a disgrace to any sport , activity, or person with whom he associates.  

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1/14/13 9:10 PM
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Don't know who created this page but GOOD SHIT. RT #FUCKLLOYDIRVIN http://www.lloydirvinrapeexposed.com/
1/14/13 9:15 PM
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LLOYDS SAMBO INSTRUCTOR IS A CHILD MOLESTER ALSO....




http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12705&page=2
1/14/13 9:28 PM
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Maybe this has been answered but did war machine have a problem with TLI before all of this? Phone Post

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