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2/20/13 1:59 PM
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Hey everybody, I was in absolutely no way, shape or form accepting what Lloyd did in his past. The things i've read are just horrible. To be quite honest, if someone did that to my daughter, i would be signing in on the underground from the prison library.
2/20/13 2:05 PM
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looking back, when the story first hit, i irresponsibly did not do my homework. I always try to look for the good in people. You guys are right, if Lloyd did, or was involved in a gang rape, it's irrelevant the good he's done, because doing or being involved in something so horrific will never be erased by any amount of good you do. At 20 yrs old, i was a wild party kid, but never would i even have thought about being around a gang rape case scenerio. I would have tried to STOP IT, and then gone straight to the police. Period!
2/20/13 2:05 PM
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Dodge135 - So sue me, he's a rapist who got away with a limp dick defense.
That doesn't make sense. How can you be a rapist without the rape portion? Attempted rape I'd even go with but straight rape? Nope. Lloyd got bashful in the middle of a gangbang an couldn't get hard give him a break.

If it was really rape then that's a real shame. It's disgusting and the penalty should be death but Lloyd wouldn't die because he did not rape. Of the dick is limp you must acquit! Phone Post

His limp dick defense was bullshit, shock! horror! he's a liar as well as one of a gang of rapists.
If so that's fucked up! But I can not go off of that. I believe in the justice system and he was not found guilty. Therefor I can't call him a rapist. Phone Post
I understand that you are 50% trolling, but it is not accurate to say that you believe in the justice system if you do not admit that he was present at a horrible rape and wished to participate. Phone Post
Correct and yes I obviously think him even being there is utterly disturbing and gross. That was never my point... Just saying he's not a rapist. Phone Post
2/20/13 2:08 PM
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Dodge135 - So sue me, he's a rapist who got away with a limp dick defense.
That doesn't make sense. How can you be a rapist without the rape portion? Attempted rape I'd even go with but straight rape? Nope. Lloyd got bashful in the middle of a gangbang an couldn't get hard give him a break.

If it was really rape then that's a real shame. It's disgusting and the penalty should be death but Lloyd wouldn't die because he did not rape. Of the dick is limp you must acquit! Phone Post
What if someone forced your daughter to fuck, and an able bodied limp dick man stood there and watched and did nothing. And then people defend this man.... Phone Post
I'd say whoever raped my daughter is going to die.

If the man said that the limp dick guy was a rapist and also deserved to die I'd say no that sick freak only watched, he's not a rapist, he's sick but not a rapist. Phone Post
2/20/13 2:08 PM
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He's not a convicted rapists, but by his own admission he attempted to participate in the gang-rape of a 17 yo girl.  Some have made judgments on his character, based on his associations and behavior, and concluded that although a jury found reasonable doubt, they can find none.  They have every right to refer to him as a rapist.

 

The undeniable truth is that TooLimp Irvin is a slimey motherfucker. 

You actually do not have the right to slander someone's name. He was not found guilty. If you call him a rapist and he loses business over it he could sue you.

Ill be screen capturing this and sending it to him. Phone Post

 

you don't have a very good understanding of slander/libel laws.  

 

There are several other criteria that must be met before he can sue, one of which being that voicing an opinion is not slanderous.

troll troll troll your boat elsewhere.

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2/20/13 2:19 PM
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He's not a convicted rapists, but by his own admission he attempted to participate in the gang-rape of a 17 yo girl.  Some have made judgments on his character, based on his associations and behavior, and concluded that although a jury found reasonable doubt, they can find none.  They have every right to refer to him as a rapist.



 



The undeniable truth is that TooLimp Irvin is a slimey motherfucker. 



You actually do not have the right to slander someone's name. He was not found guilty. If you call him a rapist and he loses business over it he could sue you.



Ill be screen capturing this and sending it to him. Phone Post


 



you don't have a very good understanding of slander/libel laws.  



 



There are several other criteria that must be met before he can sue, one of which being that voicing an opinion is not slanderous.



troll troll troll your boat elsewhere.



Well I'm not a lawyer! Phone Post



By your own admission you have no idea about the laws you are accusing other people of breaking. And then you threaten to screen shot and send to LI, in hopes of him being sued?

Yea... might want to look at a different posting s tyle
2/20/13 3:17 PM
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Kevin wanted me to post this. I Hope I don't get banned I'm using his computer.

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2/20/13 3:31 PM
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2/20/13 3:31 PM
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He's not a convicted rapists, but by his own admission he attempted to participate in the gang-rape of a 17 yo girl.  Some have made judgments on his character, based on his associations and behavior, and concluded that although a jury found reasonable doubt, they can find none.  They have every right to refer to him as a rapist.



 



The undeniable truth is that TooLimp Irvin is a slimey motherfucker. 



You actually do not have the right to slander someone's name. He was not found guilty. If you call him a rapist and he loses business over it he could sue you.



Ill be screen capturing this and sending it to him. Phone Post


 



you don't have a very good understanding of slander/libel laws.  



 



There are several other criteria that must be met before he can sue, one of which being that voicing an opinion is not slanderous.



troll troll troll your boat elsewhere.



Well I'm not a lawyer! Phone Post



By your own admission you have no idea about the laws you are accusing other people of breaking. And then you threaten to screen shot and send to LI, in hopes of him being sued?

Yea... might want to look at a different posting s tyle
I'm not sure of all of the steps but I know the slander that causes monitory loss is one. This guy leaving makes Lloyd lose money and if he left because you called him a rapist when he is not! You should be sued.

Everyone who falsely accused Lloyd of anything I've taken pictures so he can compile them later if new be.

He was found not guilty let it go. Phone Post
2/20/13 3:39 PM
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2/20/13 3:47 PM
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Celtninja, I don't get it. What's up with the Facebook screen caps?
2/20/13 4:02 PM
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2/20/13 4:03 PM
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He's not a convicted rapists, but by his own admission he attempted to participate in the gang-rape of a 17 yo girl.  Some have made judgments on his character, based on his associations and behavior, and concluded that although a jury found reasonable doubt, they can find none.  They have every right to refer to him as a rapist.



 



The undeniable truth is that TooLimp Irvin is a slimey motherfucker. 



You actually do not have the right to slander someone's name. He was not found guilty. If you call him a rapist and he loses business over it he could sue you.



Ill be screen capturing this and sending it to him. Phone Post


 



you don't have a very good understanding of slander/libel laws.  



 



There are several other criteria that must be met before he can sue, one of which being that voicing an opinion is not slanderous.



troll troll troll your boat elsewhere.



Well I'm not a lawyer! Phone Post



By your own admission you have no idea about the laws you are accusing other people of breaking. And then you threaten to screen shot and send to LI, in hopes of him being sued?

Yea... might want to look at a different posting s tyle
I'm not sure of all of the steps but I know the slander that causes monitory loss is one. This guy leaving makes Lloyd lose money and if he left because you called him a rapist when he is not! You should be sued.

Everyone who falsely accused Lloyd of anything I've taken pictures so he can compile them later if new be.

He was found not guilty let it go. Phone Post

You're obviously trolling at this point, but just for the record, the burden of proof in a civil case is different than the burden of proof in a criminal case. You can be found "not guilty" of criminal charges due to reasonable doubt, and still liable on a balance of probabilities.

Why do you think O.J. Simpson has a wrongful-death judgment against him?
2/20/13 4:07 PM
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I'm not sure of all of the steps but I know the slander that causes monitory loss is one. This guy leaving makes Lloyd lose money and if he left because you called him a rapist when he is not! You should be sued.

Everyone who falsely accused Lloyd of anything I've taken pictures so he can compile them later if new be.

He was found not guilty let it go. Phone Post

 

Let me google 'slander' for you.

 

your trolling is pathetic.  STFU, adults are conversing.

2/20/13 5:32 PM
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Kevin Chhay is the most legit guy I've ever met.
2/20/13 6:29 PM
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celtninja - Kevin Chhay is the most legit guy I've ever met.
It's always the big mouths who are fake.

Kevin has 4 names on this board and his green name was frozen for using them under the same IP.

Watch who you cheer for kids. Kevin is a bum and a bully Phone Post
2/21/13 4:41 PM
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2/28/13 7:12 PM
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So Keenan has left and rumor mill is JT will be leaving soon. Interesting turn of events Phone Post
2/28/13 9:11 PM
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From the FB of Keenan Cornelius -

I think some of you could care less about where I go, or what I do, and I get that, but a lot of people, including professional publications, have asked why I’ve left TLI. I want to make it clear what my reasoning is so there’s no more speculation, or worse the wrong reasons assumed:

Obviously, the circumstances surrounding TLI having been public so I don’t need to clarify a subject that many of you already understand and have been saturated with. In the last 6 weeks, article and blogs have spun out of control, testimonies given, and arguments and explanations made; clearly there are many views - much of which contradict each other.
What I believe and feel about these issues is personal and private, but let me make something understood, I would, and will never, endorse, or support wrongdoing whether it’s on the mat or off. And though I have made truly great friends through TLI, have had the best training of my life here, and the greatest success, its time for me to go. I can no longer be absolutely sure that this is the right environment for me under the current and enlightening circumstances.
Leaving a team is not easy - especially a team like TLI. I owe a great deal of gratitude for many things that Lloyd Irvin has done for me and the training I have had with TLI. And in my decision to leave, I in no way dismiss what was good about training in MD. So I want to thank TLI and Lloyd Irvin for that experience; it was the best I’ve had. However, not all things, or circumstances, are all good, and I had to weigh what was good for, against what was not, and proceed.
I have to to say that my family has been very supportive (everyone should have one of those), but ultimately leaving was my decision. Though their opinion was respected and appreciated; in the end, I came to this decision independent of them.
The future...where I’ll train...I don’t know. From what I’ve read, I think a lot of you know where I’m headed more that I do. But yeah, there’s a lot to think about and hopefully there’ll be a bit of time to do that. I know there is great jiu jitsu and training and good times ahead. My life is bjj, and I hope to be heading out to meet and train with some great athletes who feel the same. But I’ll tell you, I’m gonna make sure that where, how, and who I do that with, is practicing that life on the mat in a way that I can truly get behind.
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2/28/13 9:33 PM
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This was just posted in the Atama forum (not by me):

N5Z
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I know for certain some people know much more than me but are choosing to remain silent. Lloyd was pretty much responsible for tearing my old gym apart so fuck him I have no problem spreading gossip like an old widow.
What I hear is it was found that Lloyd was coercing his top female students/employees(yes, some familiar names) into some wierd sexy time. Apparently it was Jordan Schultz who put him on blast when one of the females confided in him. Somehow, this is the part im missing, this leads to everyone in the fighter house leaving in the middle of the night like the gestapo was coming. Im talking guys getting woken up in the middle of the night by others and being like 'we got to get the fuck outta here!' type shit.
This is what im hearing 2nd hand. Anyone with better knowledge please feel free to correct me. Phone Post
2/28/13 9:44 PM
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2JupitersTooMany -  This was just posted in the Atama forum (not by me):

N5Z
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I know for certain some people know much more than me but are choosing to remain silent. Lloyd was pretty much responsible for tearing my old gym apart so fuck him I have no problem spreading gossip like an old widow.
What I hear is it was found that Lloyd was coercing his top female students/employees(yes, some familiar names) into some wierd sexy time. Apparently it was Jordan Schultz who put him on blast when one of the females confided in him. Somehow, this is the part im missing, this leads to everyone in the fighter house leaving in the middle of the night like the gestapo was coming. Im talking guys getting woken up in the middle of the night by others and being like 'we got to get the fuck outta here!' type shit.
This is what im hearing 2nd hand. Anyone with better knowledge please feel free to correct me. Phone Post

A closet full of skeletons.
2/28/13 10:08 PM
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2JupitersTooMany -  This was just posted in the Atama forum (not by me):

N5Z
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I know for certain some people know much more than me but are choosing to remain silent. Lloyd was pretty much responsible for tearing my old gym apart so fuck him I have no problem spreading gossip like an old widow.
What I hear is it was found that Lloyd was coercing his top female students/employees(yes, some familiar names) into some wierd sexy time. Apparently it was Jordan Schultz who put him on blast when one of the females confided in him. Somehow, this is the part im missing, this leads to everyone in the fighter house leaving in the middle of the night like the gestapo was coming. Im talking guys getting woken up in the middle of the night by others and being like 'we got to get the fuck outta here!' type shit.
This is what im hearing 2nd hand. Anyone with better knowledge please feel free to correct me. Phone Post

A closet full of skeletons.

seems like it's being busted open now too.

I wish none of this were true but if it is, it makes me hope this guy burns down all the way to the ground.
2/28/13 10:21 PM
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2/28/13 10:46 PM
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2/28/13 10:47 PM
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