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1/10/13 2:40 PM
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MinorSocratic
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Just wondering what people think of this and at the same time putting out an idea for TUF that I'd love to see. Basically, rather than a six-figure contract (God knows what that means in reality, what if Dana created a season of TUF where the prize was 2 or 3 million dollars (and maybe also a title fight). Could we get Johnny Hendricks, Martin Kampmann, Nate Marquardt, Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit, and similar level fighters to live in a TUF house for the length of taping? It would be an incredible opportunity to gain exposure, a chance at a serious cash prize, and a title fight. I would expect that ratings would go through the roof and sponsors might be interested in helping to fund the prize.

Don't say, NO WAY, without at least speculating as to what it might take to make this actually happen. 5 Million? 10 Million? 2 million guaranteed to just make the semis? How about a world-wide Nike contract? Put on your business caps and tell me what you think.
1/10/13 2:43 PM
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TUF is stale & on life support.The prize would be good for the fighters...but would not improve the viewer numbers that much.

1/10/13 2:45 PM
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1/10/13 2:52 PM
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I'd love TUF = One "One-Night-Tourney" for whichever weight class it is.

Winner is crowned TUF Champ & stays and takes contract, Losers go home.

Not everyone likes that but I do.

1/10/13 3:20 PM
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Most finishes prize and short contract?

1/10/13 3:23 PM
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The format is stale. The prizing won't change that. Reality shows of this type have been falling off for the last while now. The only really lasting popular ones are Survivor and Big Brother, Amazing Race to a lesser extent.

Obviously the one with the closest tie is Big Brother but that show has very different audience. It also allows the characters to make strategic moves that ultimately define the game and their personality. The TUF format does not allow that. Fighters showing their personality really have no influence on the game, nor do the interactions, alliances, beefs with each etc. The relevancy of what happens in the house is just not there, so why watch it?

There is also no heat, no passion and ultimately no reason to root for one person over the other. It is just one person fighting another and there is so much of that on TV now it all gets muddled together. An old advertising saying "You sell the sizzle, not the steak" applies. What sold Lesner/Mir 2 and Silva/Sonnen 2 was the passion and tension leading up to the fight as much as the fight itself. Much of that is missing in the TUF house. They have beefs and conflicts but it is a sideshow. If you fight in the house you are banned forever. You also can't choose who you fight. This all amounts to lots of unresolved and irrelevant conflicts in the house and fights where few care about the outcome.

They need to develop heroes and villains more and allow the fighters to have more influence on the game (other than just fighting). Perhaps a system where the fighters themselves can influence who they can fight. A voting system where each team chooses their man for the week? Some forgiveness if a scuffle breaks out in the house doesn't hurt either.

1/10/13 3:24 PM
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They can't pay TUF winners more than mid-tier fighters, sets a bad precedent
1/10/13 3:34 PM
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JOESONDO - The format is stale. The prizing won't change that. Reality shows of this type have been falling off for the last while now. The only really lasting popular ones are Survivor and Big Brother, Amazing Race to a lesser extent.

Obviously the one with the closest tie is Big Brother but that show has very different audience. It also allows the characters to make strategic moves that ultimately define the game and their personality. The TUF format does not allow that. Fighters showing their personality really have no influence on the game, nor do the interactions, alliances, beefs with each etc. The relevancy of what happens in the house is just not there, so why watch it?

There is also no heat, no passion and ultimately no reason to root for one person over the other. It is just one person fighting another and there is so much of that on TV now it all gets muddled together. An old advertising saying "You sell the sizzle, not the steak" applies. What sold Lesner/Mir 2 and Silva/Sonnen 2 was the passion and tension leading up to the fight as much as the fight itself. Much of that is missing in the TUF house. They have beefs and conflicts but it is a sideshow. If you fight in the house you are banned forever. You also can't choose who you fight. This all amounts to lots of unresolved and irrelevant conflicts in the house and fights where few care about the outcome.

They need to develop heroes and villains more and allow the fighters to have more influence on the game (other than just fighting). Perhaps a system where the fighters themselves can influence who they can fight. A voting system where each team chooses their man for the week? Some forgiveness if a scuffle breaks out in the house doesn't hurt either.

I DO NOT want some scripted pawn stars, repo games type show. You must be crazy. Phone Post
1/10/13 3:41 PM
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Don't think it would matter. If the producers don't think someone makes for good television they won't get on. Records and talent are only a small part of the casting. Phone Post
1/10/13 3:59 PM
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JOESONDO - The format is stale. The prizing won't change that. Reality shows of this type have been falling off for the last while now. The only really lasting popular ones are Survivor and Big Brother, Amazing Race to a lesser extent.

Obviously the one with the closest tie is Big Brother but that show has very different audience. It also allows the characters to make strategic moves that ultimately define the game and their personality. The TUF format does not allow that. Fighters showing their personality really have no influence on the game, nor do the interactions, alliances, beefs with each etc. The relevancy of what happens in the house is just not there, so why watch it?

There is also no heat, no passion and ultimately no reason to root for one person over the other. It is just one person fighting another and there is so much of that on TV now it all gets muddled together. An old advertising saying "You sell the sizzle, not the steak" applies. What sold Lesner/Mir 2 and Silva/Sonnen 2 was the passion and tension leading up to the fight as much as the fight itself. Much of that is missing in the TUF house. They have beefs and conflicts but it is a sideshow. If you fight in the house you are banned forever. You also can't choose who you fight. This all amounts to lots of unresolved and irrelevant conflicts in the house and fights where few care about the outcome.

They need to develop heroes and villains more and allow the fighters to have more influence on the game (other than just fighting). Perhaps a system where the fighters themselves can influence who they can fight. A voting system where each team chooses their man for the week? Some forgiveness if a scuffle breaks out in the house doesn't hurt either.

I DO NOT want some scripted pawn stars, repo games type show. You must be crazy. Phone Post

It doesn't need to be scripted. It does need to have some sort of drama or passion. That is the way this genre of TV works. The novelty of fights being on TV is over. No one will tune in to watch two people they don't know or care about fight.

It sucks to have manufactured drama but as I said, this is the way TV works. As it stands now, even the organic drama (guys having an issue with one another in the house) is not allowed to play out. Once again, the format is stale.


If you hate that sort of thing, you must have not liked Mir/Brock 2 or Chael/Silva 2 because that's exactly what those fights and the shows leading up to that were.
1/10/13 5:00 PM
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Already signed UFC fighters would be pissed, and TUF would become a better route into the UFC than taking an under card bout on FX.

1/10/13 5:21 PM
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Making a hit TV show-- even a hit reality TV show--takes a lot of variables to perfect. Even the major networks can't get it right, time and time again. Fox/UFC is going up against a lot, and has changed very little. No reason for success at this point anymore.

1/10/13 5:24 PM
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Even the best TV shows jump the shark after 6-7 seasons.


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