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1/11/13 8:46 AM
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OMGClayGuida
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Without a UFC title?

Dan Henderson walks into the Hall of Fame. Phone Post
1/11/13 9:04 AM
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There are many fighters without a UFC title that I would put in the hall of fame over some title holders Phone Post
1/11/13 9:10 AM
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OMGClayGuida -  Without a UFC title?

Dan Henderson walks into the Hall of Fame. Phone Post


WTF guy, I already said the man holds the UFC 17 tourney belt. There is your belt/title bro.
1/11/13 9:18 AM
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I think yes. Pioneers like Igor V were the best before there were titles. Whats harder getting a belt or winning many tournments [some with 64 fighters]. Sak is a def HOF. Big Nog was an intrim belt holder but should be in the HOF because of his great non ufc fights. Wand is another hof'er in my book.
1/11/13 11:47 AM
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Ya... For sure... Jeremy Horn is a great example... Dude has a serious record ... And has been In some absolute wars... Been around forever...Would be a travesty if he didn't get in. Phone Post
1/11/13 12:05 PM
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Yes.

I think they would have to be a special talent,
a great ambassador, a gamer, and someone who helped get people into the sport, but yes.

1/11/13 12:09 PM
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GSP24 -  You will see Stephan Bonnar in the HOF.

A UFC title should be a prerequisite before entering the HOF but I'm sure arguments can be made for certain guys. Phone Post

This.

There aren't a lot of ways for a non-pioneer fighter to make a significant contribution to/impact on the sport *without* winning a title.

That said, Bonnar and Griffin will probably get in, as it could be said that they are the pioneers of the "new" era of MMA. At the very least, they saved the UFC.

I'm trying to think of any other guys who have made sport-level contributions that would qualify as HOF material without winning a UFC title. I can't think of any right now. But I'm sure someone will suggest some.
1/11/13 12:12 PM
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I'd vote J-Lau. Phone Post
1/11/13 12:13 PM
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Boom!
Never knocked out, never submitted, king of the FOTN world! Phone Post
1/11/13 12:40 PM
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Dana Stern - I would say Bonner does not get in. I know that fight with him and Griffin was a huge part in UFC and MMA history but still has little to do with his personal achievements. I can't think of any fighter who hasn't held a title that should be in the Hall of Fame. Don't think Kenny should be either. Guys I think could be inducted in the future, Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, GSP, Anderson Silva, Wand Silva, Big Nog, Brock possibly, BJ Penn. Phone Post
You say rashard gets in and then say possibly Bj wtf.... I think I am too stoned Phone Post
No I meant Brock should or could possibly get in, BJ Penn gets in for sure without a doubt! Shogun without a doubt, Henderson, and I'd say CroCop for sure but his run in the UFC was so lackluster I'm just unsure about him. However Wands has been too and I say he is a definite in so... Phone Post
1/11/13 12:50 PM
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Devlin - just ufc or are we they allowing pridr belts as well aince imo wand deservea in the hof Phone Post
Pride belts are reasonable. Hendo, Wand, Fedor etc.

Fighters I was thinking of are people like Florian, Diego Sanchez, Lauzon, Chris Lytle, Bonnar, Nick Diaz etc.

It's like should entertainment be a reason for consideration?
Lauzon is a perfect example, look at his fights and " of the night" bonuses Phone Post
1/11/13 1:55 PM
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TANK ABBOTT!

Would have been a 2 time tourney Champ had others not cheated too!
1/11/13 2:02 PM
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Want, Cro Cop, Fedor, Sak Phone Post
1/11/13 2:06 PM
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1/11/13 2:17 PM
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i think most here are too lenient.Id be stricter on who should be in .Fitch ? are u kidding me
1/11/13 2:27 PM
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JamesTheWelshDR - Chris lytle Phone Post
Boom!
Never knocked out, never submitted, king of the FOTN world! Phone Post

Never ranked in the top ten.

Never a serious title contender, let alone a champion.

I'd say that he is a hof candidate based on his record, his FOTN success, his attitude, his style, his social conscience and the fact he did all that as a part time fighter. That's bad ass in my opinion. Phone Post
1/11/13 2:37 PM
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Frank Shamrock is not happy!
1/11/13 5:00 PM
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JamesTheWelshDR -  Chris lytle Phone Post

1/11/13 6:29 PM
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Dana Stern - I would say Bonner does not get in. I know that fight with him and Griffin was a huge part in UFC and MMA history but still has little to do with his personal achievements. I can't think of any fighter who hasn't held a title that should be in the Hall of Fame. Don't think Kenny should be either. Guys I think could be inducted in the future, Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, GSP, Anderson Silva, Wand Silva, Big Nog, Brock possibly, BJ Penn. Phone Post
You say rashard gets in and then say possibly Bj wtf.... I think I am too stoned Phone Post
No I meant Brock should or could possibly get in, BJ Penn gets in for sure without a doubt! Shogun without a doubt, Henderson, and I'd say CroCop for sure but his run in the UFC was so lackluster I'm just unsure about him. However Wands has been too and I say he is a definite in so... Phone Post
Fair enough I was too stoned lol Phone Post
1/11/13 6:39 PM
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tank
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Those damn good suggestions imo Phone Post
1/11/13 6:43 PM
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Can you get in the NFL hall without a superbowl title? Sorry Dan Marino. Can you get in the basketball hall of fame without an NBA ring? Not happening Charles Barkely.

Lol of course you can, ya boozo. Phone Post
1/11/13 6:44 PM
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JamesTheWelshDR - Chris lytle Phone Post
Came to say this, along with Lauzon when he leaves the sport (hopefully not for a long time) Phone Post
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And Jeremy Horn. Phone Post
1/11/13 8:36 PM
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MrColdCock - Off the top of my head, I would say Jon Fitch is probably the best UFC fighter to never win a belt. So.... No. Phone Post
That belongs to hendo and it's not even close Phone Post
Belt or no belt, Henderson is not a hall of famer based on his UFC record.

He doesn't come close to Fitch's UFC record. Then again, I can't think of anyone that does. So ya, if Fitch doesn't get in based on accomplishments, no non belt holder would.

I don't think Fitch gets in. Phone Post
1/11/13 8:53 PM
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yes


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