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1/12/13 5:14 PM
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Mark Stables
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After a run in with this guy I decided to research his credentials. He claims to be "Ajahn" amnat Yodkwain with 90 Professional fights and a 90% win rate. He also claims to be from Kaewsamrit gym. I have lots of friends in different gyms in Thailand and NOBODY ever heard of him. I also had my friend from Fairtex contact his friend at Kaewsamrit gym in Thailand. They have no memory of this guy who claims to have 90 pro fights representing them at Lumpinee Stadium. Anybody looking for authentic Muay Thai in Toronto should probably stay away from TKMT and this complete Fraud.
1/12/13 5:51 PM
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Heres the reply from Kaewsamrit

hello
we do not remember the name, please send a picture of him, maybe i can tell if he was in our gym.

regards
vey
KAEWSAMRIT GYM
www.kaewsamritgym.com
www.muaythaikaewsamrit.com
Jiraporn Chantip (Manager)
104/50 Moo 5 Thanon Thungmangkorn, Soi 22
Chimplee
Talingchan
Bangkok 10170
Thailand
Tel : 0066 2448 8079
Cell (Thai) : 006687 821 6866
Cell (English) : 0066 832406020
1/12/13 6:03 PM
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Heres a clip of The" Master" In the white tshirt for your consideration. The guy he is fighting is his Student and a realative Novice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7-ORKCkNss
1/12/13 7:25 PM
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why is it always 90 or 60, or 120 fights? :)

1/12/13 7:38 PM
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Mark Stables
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lol I guess when you make shit up you pick a nice round number
1/13/13 5:58 PM
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Is this true?

I have a number friends who train there.
1/13/13 6:53 PM
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That's definitely fishy that no one at Kaewsamrit can remember him.

But his demo footage isnt necessarily indicative of him being a fraud. someone his age just isnt gong to be able to showcase impeccable technique in competition anymore.
1/13/13 6:53 PM
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Watch the video, it speaks for itself.
Have your friends ask him to prove his bogus claims.
He won't because he cant.
1/13/13 8:08 PM
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Video aside...What has the guy produced in his time at TKMT? Are his claims true? Is he a quality instructor?
1/13/13 8:42 PM
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A Muay Thai master from Bangkok, Thailand, he is a very patient and knowledgeable trainer that is able to elevate the technical and fighting skills of our gym to a new level. He brings with him extensive experience; he began his training in Thai combative arts (Muay Thai, Muay Boran and Krabi Krabong) at the age of seven and had his first professional Muay Thai fight at the age of eight. Throughout his career in the 1980s, he competed in over 90 professional fights at the famed Lumpini and Ratchadamnoen stadiums in Bangkok, winning 90% of them. He is arguably the most experienced Muay Thai trainer in the entire province, and is a full-time instructor/trainer/coach at TKMT.
1/13/13 9:44 PM
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sevenone - Video aside...What has the guy produced in his time at TKMT? Are his claims true? Is he a quality instructor?

(1) He has produced no competitors of note in Muay Thai anywhere in the world.

(2)His Claims are completely unsupported and some of them have already been proved false.

(3) As to the Quality of his instruction, refer to (1) and (2)

When he arrived on the scene quite a few Local and experienced Thai practitioners were excited to train with him. Every single one of them had the same opinion.....Fraud
1/13/13 10:40 PM
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Thats' how technical you should be if you have 90 fight ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfZ3CLtrgw) , and not some softy leg pushes which we se in the video above.

He has some training in MT, but not what he claims to be...fraud.

1/14/13 10:19 AM
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Maybe have Warren (owner of the school) respond?

1/14/13 7:06 PM
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Mark Stables - Heres a clip of The" Master" In the white tshirt for your consideration. The guy he is fighting is his Student and a realative Novice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7-ORKCkNss

1/14/13 7:09 PM
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Thats' how technical you should be if you have 90 fight ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfZ3CLtrgw) , and not some softy leg pushes which we se in the video above.

He has some training in MT, but not what he claims to be...fraud.


2/12/13 2:36 AM
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odd i heard he was a good teacher
2/14/13 11:59 AM
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They have a great website.

Prices are posted:

http://www.tkmt.ca/classes.html


2/14/13 10:20 PM
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That is one of the most confusing fee schedules I have ever seen...

2/15/13 8:14 AM
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I don't know the trainer in question, but I have had nothing but excellent experiences at TKMT. Warren gives an awesome pad/focus mitt workout and is a fantastic teacher.
2/16/13 3:24 AM
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The number of fights and the skill in the video do not add up.

2/17/13 3:12 PM
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Just watched the video again and there is no way his claims are legit. He TKMT needs to drop this guy.
2/20/13 12:20 PM
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I'm 13-2 in kumite fight to the death matches.

For anybody that wants to dispute this, it's your lucky day seen as my hands are registered with the police department, preventing me from finding you all and kicking your ass.

 

 

 

2/20/13 9:22 PM
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JHR - 

I'm 13-2 in kumite fight to the death matches.

For anybody that wants to dispute this, it's your lucky day seen as my hands are registered with the police department, preventing me from finding you all and kicking your ass.

 

 

 


It's true, JHR killed me once!

...I'm better now though...

2/21/13 11:51 AM
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Dougie - 
JHR - 

I'm 13-2 in kumite fight to the death matches.

For anybody that wants to dispute this, it's your lucky day seen as my hands are registered with the police department, preventing me from finding you all and kicking your ass.

 

 

 


It's true, JHR killed me once!

...I'm better now though...


Don't pretend like you didn't deserve it....

 

You learned your lesson though and are a better person because of it.

 

 

2/21/13 11:05 PM
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From what I know amnat is pretty legit. I wouldn't call him a world class instructor but he's certainly from thailand and has had fight experience. The guy he is messing around with in the video is his student. Anyone 20 years removed from their fight career won't look that good. He clearly isn't trying to win or put heat on the guy. All I know is I have heard Ajahn Suchart refer to him as an Ajahn before. He's certainly not on Suchart's level. But not a complete fraud I wouldn't say. That being said not all ex thai champions from Thailand come over and produce champions. Phone Post

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