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1/13/13 1:07 AM
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Does BJM make up his own rules ? I have never heard of a rule that says that a fighters fingers have to be closed . It seems like BJM likes to talk a lot just to draw attention to himself .I've heard him say a lot of weird stuff over the years that didn't make sense .
1/13/13 1:18 AM
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Can't remember if it was him or Dan mirgiliota but when jones fought belfort, they yelled at jones about his fingers Phone Post
1/13/13 1:21 AM
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isn't it usually only directed to the fighter if there pawing at the opponent. Phone Post
1/13/13 1:25 AM
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Well, I think he was concerned about eye pokes. 

1/13/13 1:26 AM
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Totally changed the outcome of the fight imro Phone Post
1/13/13 1:28 AM
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KZTT_FawkingxD - Can't remember if it was him or Dan mirgiliota but when jones fought belfort, they yelled at jones about his fingers Phone Post
It was Big John. I remember in that fight when Belfort threw the kick while jones was crawling towards him he goes "you're playing the game" or something like that. Phone Post
1/13/13 2:11 AM
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KZTT_FawkingxD - Can't remember if it was him or Dan mirgiliota but when jones fought belfort, they yelled at jones about his fingers Phone Post
It was Big John. I remember in that fight when Belfort threw the kick while jones was crawling towards him he goes "you're playing the game" or something like that. Phone Post

Herb Dean said it to Paul Buentello, but close!
1/13/13 2:12 AM
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Well, I think he was concerned about eye pokes. 


This, he's just trying to prevent eye pokes.

1/13/13 2:15 AM
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He is the ref, he is in charge of the fight.

If you're doing something that is in a gray area and could lead to fouls, they're going to call you on it.

 

1/13/13 2:21 AM
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didn't he help write the actual rules?
1/13/13 2:24 AM
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So it is a rule now ? They can use closed gloves now, because BJM says its a rule while hes in charge ? Its just weird how a ref tells fighters how to fight. It wasnt like he was poking him in the eyes . His arm was extended as was his fingers .
1/13/13 2:24 AM
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KZTT_FawkingxD - Can't remember if it was him or Dan mirgiliota but when jones fought belfort, they yelled at jones about his fingers Phone Post
It was Big John. I remember in that fight when Belfort threw the kick while jones was crawling towards him he goes "you're playing the game" or something like that. Phone Post

Herb Dean said it to Paul Buentello, but close!
Both actually. Phone Post
1/13/13 2:27 AM
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Can't fucking stand him, he tries to make himself part of the fight. Way overrated in terms of a good referee Phone Post
1/13/13 2:28 AM
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He is the ref, he is in charge of the fight.

If you're doing something that is in a gray area and could lead to fouls, they're going to call you on it.

 


This.

1/13/13 3:30 AM
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My question is why does anyone guage distance with their fingers out anyway?

What good does it do except hopefully "accidentally" poke your opponent in the eye?

If it's not illegal, it should be. Phone Post
1/13/13 7:56 AM
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If you want to open palm strike somebody, you should be able to. You shouldnt have to actually have your hands closed at all times, that's retarded, and this is the first fight I have ever seen it mentioned. There is an obvious difference between trying to eye poke, and having your hands open for other reasons.
1/13/13 7:56 AM
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BJM was well within the rules in his direction. The giy literally wrote the book on the rules in MMA.

1/13/13 8:06 AM
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GayGuardMooseSaucy - Can't fucking stand him, he tries to make himself part of the fight. Way overrated in terms of a good referee Phone Post
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1/13/13 8:25 AM
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Stea1th - there is 0 reason to "check distance" with using open fingers. It's dangerous and we've seen a LOT of people be poked in the eye because of it.


1/13/13 8:57 AM
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"Can't fucking stand him, he tries to make himself part of the fight. Way overrated in terms of a good referee"

This is what I think about BJM
1/13/13 9:08 AM
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FightToLive - He is a dickhead also!
Are you kidding me? One of the nicest most approachable guys you'll ever meet. This thread is full of idiots. Phone Post
1/13/13 9:09 AM
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BJM was well within the rules in his direction. The giy literally wrote the book on the rules in MMA.

Exactly, BJM, along with New Jersey director Larry Hazzard wrote the "unified rules" as we know them. Phone Post
1/13/13 9:11 AM
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I think it kind of makes sense? Do you really want a fight to end on an eye poke Phone Post
1/13/13 9:19 AM
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Would he do this in a Machida fight? Phone Post
1/13/13 9:22 AM
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Retarded thread is retarded.  Unless you have never seen MMA at all, it should be immediately obvious why a ref would tell a fighter who is pawing with an open hand to keep his fingers closed. 

In the past it had become a  technique exploiting a loophole in the rules to eyepoke.  Liddell did it a lot, Shields, and quite a few others that I cant remember off the top of my head.  After you eye poke the opponent like that, if the ref even notices it, all that happens is they get a couple of minutes to recover and you get a mild warning from the ref.  Then as the fight continues you have the advantage as the opponents vision is still likely impaired.  I would much prefer the ref stop it before it even happens.

And as far as the incident with JBJ, Jones was exploiting the rules to crawl on his hands and knees to the opponent to close the distance without danger of getting struck.  The rule is there to protect a downed opponent, not to gain an advantage as a method of fighting.  I loved it when Big John told Jones that.  MMA is supposed to simulate a real fight while adding rules to protect a fighter's safety.  When was the last time you saw a street fight where a guy was crawling on his hands and knees towards an opponent?


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