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brothers and sisters. IDK if you've seen this but apparently this cultist and rapist is attempting to take down http://www.lloydirvinrapeexposed.com/


Well that scummy move is to be expected.

I know less than zip about that type of law.

Any lawyers on this site that could comment on effective counter-measures or tactics?

It could be bullshit. I did a bit of searching on Innovanetics (from lawyer's email address) and they're some web marketing company that does mainly porn sites. I also came across a link to this post on shitdog:

"The letter is a joke...I quick google search turns up no Peter Roth of Innovanetics. I doubt the guy is even a lawyer...the letter states he is an "agent" and I don't see his bar number either.

Innovanetics Incorporated is some company that provides IT support to LI-style marketing schemes. LI probably is one of their long term customers, and they are doing LI a favor in sending this cease-desist letter because the website threatens LI's revenues, which in turn threatens Innovanetics revenues."

LOL!!!!!


It does look like a lawyer sent the letter, but the guy who signs it never says he's an attorney.

It's signed:

"Sincerely,
Peter Roth
Intellectual Property Assets Protection
Innovanetics Incorporated"

Innovanetics Incorporated has a Facebook site with pictures of only one dude, so that could be Roth. No way to really be sure.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Innovanetics-Incorporated/117574161630770

Blue help please.



Looks like a hipster of some kind with a marketing company.

You just insulted Hipsters.

LOL!!



If not a hipster, then what?

Blue help please (from a public Facebook page):

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/225692_196515397069979_1305774_n.jpg
1/21/13 4:07 PM
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I_Bungalo_Baboo_Babies - I know I'm gonna get flamed but those of you talking about their lack of respect and lack of social awareness shouldnt be surprised. Look at this forum for an example, many on here feel a superiority complex due to traneing and constantly mock those that don't. Throw in years of largely only associating with your "brothers" and "sisters" for years leaves you out of touch with the general population. Lastly mix in a lack of education and being told day in and day out you're amazing at a certain set skill and you get essentially a gang of people who define themselves on a certain art and the team that got you there becomes the only people deemed equals. When you start to feel superior its easy to spin ur own brain to do terrible things, reference slavery for an extreme example Phone Post
I'll put $$ that at least one of the Avellan brothers is MUCH more educated than yourself. Let me know if you would like to take me up on this and we can name a $ amount and set up verification through a mod. Phone Post

Is that the best you can come up with?

I train at a rival school dumb shit! I'm just stating the obvious. It's funny to see someone that barely has a grasp of the English language, accuse others of being "uneducated". I happen to know that at least one person that he is referring to is very educated, which is why I pointed that out, and find it pretty damn funny. Phone Post
1/21/13 4:30 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
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She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.

From what I see you are the attention whore.
1/21/13 4:31 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
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She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Her brother should come first.

This should be a PRIVATE family matter.

If my sister put me on blast for something someone else did, the relationship would be over. Period.
Well then you are a shitty fucking brother
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Totally agree.
1/21/13 4:32 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Her brother should come first.

This should be a PRIVATE family matter.

If my sister put me on blast for something someone else did, the relationship would be over. Period.

interestingly, one of the recurring characteristics of cults is their encouragement of members to disown their families

did you ever think about joining TLI? you might be a prime candidate

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1/21/13 4:38 PM
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1/21/13 5:28 PM
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I_Bungalo_Baboo_Babies - I know I'm gonna get flamed but those of you talking about their lack of respect and lack of social awareness shouldnt be surprised. Look at this forum for an example, many on here feel a superiority complex due to traneing and constantly mock those that don't. Throw in years of largely only associating with your "brothers" and "sisters" for years leaves you out of touch with the general population. Lastly mix in a lack of education and being told day in and day out you're amazing at a certain set skill and you get essentially a gang of people who define themselves on a certain art and the team that got you there becomes the only people deemed equals. When you start to feel superior its easy to spin ur own brain to do terrible things, reference slavery for an extreme example Phone Post
I'll put $$ that at least one of the Avellan brothers is MUCH more educated than yourself. Let me know if you would like to take me up on this and we can name a $ amount and set up verification through a mod. Phone Post

Is that the best you can come up with?

I train at a rival school dumb shit! I'm just stating the obvious. It's funny to see someone that barely has a grasp of the English language, accuse others of being "uneducated". I happen to know that at least one person that he is referring to is very educated, which is why I pointed that out, and find it pretty damn funny. Phone Post

Lol.
1/21/13 8:33 PM
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brothers and sisters. IDK if you've seen this but apparently this cultist and rapist is attempting to take down http://www.lloydirvinrapeexposed.com/


Well that scummy move is to be expected.

I know less than zip about that type of law.

Any lawyers on this site that could comment on effective counter-measures or tactics?

It could be bullshit. I did a bit of searching on Innovanetics (from lawyer's email address) and they're some web marketing company that does mainly porn sites. I also came across a link to this post on shitdog:

"The letter is a joke...I quick google search turns up no Peter Roth of Innovanetics. I doubt the guy is even a lawyer...the letter states he is an "agent" and I don't see his bar number either.

Innovanetics Incorporated is some company that provides IT support to LI-style marketing schemes. LI probably is one of their long term customers, and they are doing LI a favor in sending this cease-desist letter because the website threatens LI's revenues, which in turn threatens Innovanetics revenues."

LOL!!!!!


It does look like a lawyer sent the letter, but the guy who signs it never says he's an attorney.

It's signed:

"Sincerely,
Peter Roth
Intellectual Property Assets Protection
Innovanetics Incorporated"

Innovanetics Incorporated has a Facebook site with pictures of only one dude, so that could be Roth. No way to really be sure.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Innovanetics-Incorporated/117574161630770

Blue help please.



Looks like a hipster of some kind with a marketing company.

After a bit more digging on that email address:

Registrant:
Innovanetics Incorporated
708 Elcombe Crescent
Peterborough, Ontario K9H3L4
Canada

Registered through: godaddy.com, llc (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: NETWORKWOW.COM
Created on: 08-Apr-12
Expires on: 08-Apr-13
Last Updated on: 08-Apr-12

Administrative Contact:
Wray, Peter
Innovanetics Incorporated
708 Elcombe Crescent
Peterborough, Ontario K9H3L4
Canada
(705) 743-3196

From Peter Wray wikipedia page:

"As a copywriter and ghostwriter, Wray's clients are a reputed to be a Who's Who of corporate America both famous more usually, infamous."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Wray


Looks to me like "Peter Roth" is Peter Wray. Guess he thought Roth sounded more lawyerly.

this is the company trying to take the site down

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Innovanetics-Incorporated/117574161630770

1/21/13 8:53 PM
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Yup. That's from their Facebook page.
1/21/13 9:13 PM
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That is from the businesses facebook page? What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck?!?!
1/21/13 9:52 PM
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Peter Wray's wiki is also pretty ridiculous. It reads like he wrote it.

In the "talk" section there are several calls for its deletion, all defended by the author who says he cannot prove Wray's notability because he is such an effective ghostwriter, the secret can never get out.

He appears to be a self-aggrandizing liar and likely a con man.
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1/22/13 9:07 AM
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brothers and sisters. IDK if you've seen this but apparently this cultist and rapist is attempting to take down http://www.lloydirvinrapeexposed.com/


Well that scummy move is to be expected.

I know less than zip about that type of law.

Any lawyers on this site that could comment on effective counter-measures or tactics?

It could be bullshit. I did a bit of searching on Innovanetics (from lawyer's email address) and they're some web marketing company that does mainly porn sites. I also came across a link to this post on shitdog:

"The letter is a joke...I quick google search turns up no Peter Roth of Innovanetics. I doubt the guy is even a lawyer...the letter states he is an "agent" and I don't see his bar number either.

Innovanetics Incorporated is some company that provides IT support to LI-style marketing schemes. LI probably is one of their long term customers, and they are doing LI a favor in sending this cease-desist letter because the website threatens LI's revenues, which in turn threatens Innovanetics revenues."

yep, this is getting hysterical now...

1/22/13 8:58 PM
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kevinchhay -  What's up with the sense of self entitlement? I came from a good family of lawyer and psychologist my father owns 16 houses but you won't hear me talking about it!

MMA is the sport that I love but I'm already a winner! I don't have to show off my possessions to make myself feel better!

I was talk to always be humble and Martial Arts and I did not care about what Championships I won because it was part of training....

That's why many haven't heard of me before UG Mob vetted incident

A word of advice to Avellan, Bible says the meek shall inherit the world!

Nakapan also has history see you lost against Matt Hughes by only 2 points at Grapplers Quest! We always beat top Lloyd Irvin guys in competition that's why I was dumbfounded when he joined the trashy loudmouth school!

My student got an ad from Crazy 88 that said " Learn Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or just how to beat people up!"

I have a lot of history in sport and we flew down Pat Miletich when he was the winningest UFC coach before Greg Jackson!l

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1/28/13 9:36 AM
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The owner Crazy 88 Brown Belt and they have a Purple running it that looks down on others they don't have a Black Belt

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That's why their Purple Belt Brian Stanley left to come train with me

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it looks like it died down. first page of google has nothing on it. looks like that canadian litigation/it guy/macguyver knows how to do search optimization.
2/11/13 7:56 AM
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yusul - it looks like it died down. first page of google has nothing on it. looks like that canadian litigation/it guy/macguyver knows how to do search optimization.

Honestly its not going to be front page news forever.

Probably flare up again when the rapists go to trial, but otherwise the damage has been done and it's. Time for people to rebuild and move on.
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This is just one of many reason i'm barely associated with MMA anymore
2/11/13 11:17 AM
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Does anyone know when the trial begins?
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That's why their Purple Belt Brian Stanley left to come train with me

I'm glad you show up ever now and then just to reassure me that you're still talking out of your ass.
Crazy 88 is owned by a BJJ BLACK belt, FYI.

But by all means continue with you're inane disconnected thoughts, it's usually entertaining even if not completely lucid. Phone Post
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That's why their Purple Belt Brian Stanley left to come train with me

I'm glad you show up ever now and then just to reassure me that you're still talking out of your ass.
Crazy 88 is owned by a BJJ BLACK belt, FYI.

But by all means continue with you're inane disconnected thoughts, it's usually entertaining even if not completely lucid. Phone Post
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kevinchhay -

The owner Crazy 88 Brown Belt and they have a Purple running it that looks down on others they don't have a Black Belt

julius just got his black belt and all their purple belt instructors are beasts and have always been cool to me. Phone Post
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