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1/14/13 10:47 PM
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wtf is up with avellan's post on twitter?
1/14/13 10:48 PM
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I'm sure it would take tons of courage to speak up as a team member. You'd be ostracized. Your whole network of friends and way of life is at stake. Going to be hard to get any reasoned sympathy from that mob. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:02 PM
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gusto - wtf is up with avellan's post on twitter?

Do tell.

Sorry I have no twitter.
1/14/13 11:05 PM
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Who was Keenan referring to with his comment?


"Im not involved in this mess but you seem to be trying really hard...."
1/14/13 11:09 PM
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Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
1/14/13 11:11 PM
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gusto - wtf is up with avellan's post on twitter?

Do tell.

Sorry I have no twitter.

sorry, i was just referencing facebook post not twitter
1/14/13 11:15 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post
1/14/13 11:18 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.

No she is genuinely disgusted by Lloyds defense about how he couldn't get hard which is why he was unable to rape that minor. She doesn't want her brother to be on a team like that.

You are a disgusting 24/7 gang bang porn watcher. you probably have crusty cum underwear on at this very moment
1/14/13 11:26 PM
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She said she pleaded with him and the others to stop.

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1/14/13 11:27 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
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Sheesh sorry Mr. Kimura Trap but going to sit out until I this shakes out. Avellan is giving me the creeps. A couple months ago I was pumped to see them talking training on the UG and now we have this filthy mess. Having this stuff attached to the family name can't be ideal for a marketing campaign. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:29 PM
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what lloyd irvin did is wrong and keenan's family has every right to want him to leave the team but making this public and just bringing more drama to the situation which keenan isn't even involved in seems wrong and unfair to him. family matters should be done private, not having your sister fight with your teammates or "family" over the internet for the world to see.
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:32 PM
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BJJkilla - what lloyd irvin did is wrong and keenan's family has every right to want him to leave the team but making this public and just bringing more drama to the situation which keenan isn't even involved in seems wrong and unfair to him. family matters should be done private, not having your sister fight with your teammates or "family" over the internet for the world to see.

This is exactly right.
1/14/13 11:33 PM
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I'm guessing the TLI members sticking up for Lloyd and saying he's innocent missed the part where he said he would have raped that girl if he wasn't impotent. Real innocent. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:33 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Her brother should come first.

This should be a PRIVATE family matter.

If my sister put me on blast for something someone else did, the relationship would be over. Period.
1/14/13 11:41 PM
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HOLLYWOOD-MO - Who was Keenan referring to with his comment?


"Im not involved in this mess but you seem to be trying really hard...."

who knows

it is a little strange that his family are taking to facebook to contact him, unless that is the only way they can reach him /tin foil hat

1/14/13 11:44 PM
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Wow that FB cap on first page is shitty. Avellan comes off as a douche attacking dude's family for them understandably not liking the situation. That is weak.

1/14/13 11:45 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Her brother should come first.

This should be a PRIVATE family matter.

If my sister put me on blast for something someone else did, the relationship would be over. Period.
Well then you are a shitty fucking brother
Period. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:49 PM
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I too had considered that maybe he is not in close contact with his family. Really since we have no idea what their family dynamic is, it's impossible to have a position. In my mind though, I understand the bond of teammates, but teammates should in turn respect the bond of blood. You can choose your team, your training partners, your coach, etc., but you don't choose who your family is, so it is a fragile bond that should be respected. You don't put someone's father on blast to prove a point, when that is the same father of your "brother" or teammate. that's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

An unfortunate mess, and it's even more unfortunate that for whatever reason, it is playing out in a public forum.

Here is to hoping that future dialogue about this matter is discussed in private.
1/14/13 11:50 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Her brother should come first.

This should be a PRIVATE family matter.

If my sister put me on blast for something someone else did, the relationship would be over. Period.
Well then you are a shitty fucking brother
Period. Phone Post
What's more, you called his sister an attention "whore." Some habits are hard to break. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:54 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Well put, 2JupitersTooMany.
1/14/13 11:55 PM
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Do you really think that Keenan can just 'walk away'? I'm willing to bet that there is a contract in place for all of the benefits he has. Probably not very easy to just leave - EVEN IF - he wants to. Phone Post
1/14/13 11:56 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 - Keenan's sister is using this as an excuse to get on a soap box and cause drama.

That's disgusting.

If she were my sister, I would disown her.
Women have a funny way of not tolerating it when rape victims are silenced and characterized as whores Phone Post

She's putting her brother on blast.

Attention whore is attention whoring.
I'm sure it's a horribly uncomfortable thing for a young man to be thrown into a conflict w his team. But you are misplacing blame. Women get to speak out about rape and be furious about it. Your sympathies are in the wrong place. Other parties caused this mess. Phone Post

Her brother should come first.

This should be a PRIVATE family matter.

If my sister put me on blast for something someone else did, the relationship would be over. Period.

really,just like that? you would end your relationship with your sister because she told you to leave a  team.

wow !! hard core guy

1/15/13 12:02 AM
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Keenan lives in a group that consider him part of the family.

The group is now attacking his "outside" family.

Forcing Keenan to choose between his real family and the organization he's affiliated with.


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