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1/14/13 5:15 PM
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XcessiveZ
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Obviously alot of us would love for these two to be matched up next to fight eachother, however, when looking at their fight careers, which of them do you feel has the better resume? Phone Post
1/14/13 5:18 PM
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Josh Barnett. If Mir never got in that accident who knows, but for now it's Barnett.
1/14/13 5:19 PM
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1/14/13 5:22 PM
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Mir by actually having top 10 wins within the last 5 years.

1/14/13 5:25 PM
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Mir held the UFC title twice if you count interim so got to go with him
1/14/13 5:26 PM
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Mir by actually having top 10 wins within the last 5 years.

Mir has less accolades in martial arts if I remember right and you don't have to rely on opinion do the research yourself and look it up Google is your friend. Phone Post
1/14/13 5:37 PM
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Mir has much bigger highs and lows, but is the greater of the two. Mir also never failed a drug test, but Barnett never lost to Brandon Vera Phone Post
1/14/13 5:43 PM
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Mir

 

For all the hate the guy gets, Mir has faced MUCH stiffer competition than Barnett has for the last half-decade.  Sergei is Barnett's only significant win since ekeing out a decision over Big Nog back in 2006 (which Nog later avenged). 

1/14/13 5:45 PM
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Joshua J King - The Warmaster is one of my own but it's not close. Mir. Phone Post
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1/14/13 5:48 PM
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Mir by actually having top 10 wins within the last 5 years.

Mir has less accolades in martial arts if I remember right and you don't have to rely on opinion do the research yourself and look it up Google is your friend. Phone Post

Both former UFC HWY champs.

KO and Sub of Big Nog > Split decision win over Big Nog.

 

1/14/13 5:51 PM
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Too much negativity in barnetts resume, love them both though Phone Post
1/14/13 5:54 PM
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Mir. I wish they were fighting next.
1/14/13 5:56 PM
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Mir IMO:

Most wins ever in UFC HW Division

Most subs ever in UFC HW Division

2 time UFC HW Champ

Last 5 years wIns over Nog (twice),Nelson, CroCop, Brock, Kongo, Hardonk

losses to Carwin, JDS, Brock

 

Barnett:

UFC HW Champ

HW King of Pancrase

PRIDE OWGP finalist (2nd place)

SF HW GP finalist (2nd place)

 

Last 5 years wins over Guilmino, Khartionov, Rogers, Dos Santos, Mighty Mo, Yvel, Rizzo, Monson, Yoshida

Loss to Cormier

 

Mir has fought significantly tougher competition the last 5 years.

edit:  added Barnett's King of Pancrase to this post per mention in Much Respect's next post.  Apologies for overlooking that...it's for sure a huge accomplishment.

1/14/13 6:18 PM
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Wasn't Barnett a Pancrase champ? Didn't he also win a BJJ world title?

FWIW Josh has a better record (9 more wins for the same amount of losses) and while Frank beat the ghost of Mirko and Josh managed to drop 3 to Pride Mirko (literally half the Warmaster's losses are to CroCop). Frank has some very bad losses on his record; Ian Freeman, Brandon Vera.

Josh stopped prime Randy (and I don't want to hear about 'steroids' when Randy's test results were NEVER made public, Josh's test results were released only AFTER he didn't come to terms with Zuffa over money). Whatever I saw the fight, a teenaged Josh beat Randy down. Period.


Not that any of it matters; Mir will win this poll based on being a Zuffa company man and spending his entire career fighting for the UFC (where his career has been expertly handled).

Where as Josh, who wasn't personal pals with the Zuffa brass, ran afoul of them over money a decade ago and sought his fortune abroad.

I'd like to know who's made more money personally, I think that's a factor as well but there truely is no way to know that.
1/14/13 7:04 PM
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I would say Mir is the more accomplished fighter.Although he has some bad losses, he has alot of good wins and has been fighting the best consistently while Barnett has not over the past 6 years. Phone Post
1/14/13 7:26 PM
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Frank Mir, hands down.

Barnett has a chance to top him when he arrives in the UFC, but until then, Mir is the more accomplished.

1/14/13 7:45 PM
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fwiw (probably not much), Mir is a lock for ufc hof, Barnett won't be in
1/14/13 7:50 PM
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Neil Funk - Josh Barnett. If Mir never got in that accident who knows, but for now it's Barnett.

What exactly are Barnett's accomplishments that are superior to Mir's?

1/14/13 7:53 PM
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Barnett...

 

PRIDE... 

 

I'd hate to be a fighter around Mir's age and not know what it was like fighting for the best MMA organization of ALL TIME.

 

1/14/13 8:01 PM
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Barnett...

 

PRIDE... 

 

I'd hate to be a fighter around Mir's age and not know what it was like fighting for the best MMA organization of ALL TIME.

 

How does fighting in PRIDE make barnett the more accomplished fighter? Phone Post
1/14/13 8:18 PM
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Mir . He's fought and won and fought in lost.. but either way, he fought the better fighters in a higher caliber tier of MMA. I'm sorry to those PRIDE fans but let's face facts, there are only a handful of what one would consider top tier talent that spent most of their career fighting in PRIDE. For every 1 PRIDE highly talented fighter, there are 6 that don't even make the UFC undercard talent wise. Barnett could have been the best, fighting the best in the world, but he didn't ... As far as this thread goes, BARNETT stoped BARNETT from being considered one of the best, let alone better than Mir. Mir may not be the best in the world, but he's won the most highly touted Championship in the world, And his game is more respectable with different areas that he can beat you with.


And plus, what ref wears headphones and isn't a company man?? Phone Post
1/14/13 8:28 PM
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Anderson Emelianenko GOAT - who has Barnett beaten that is of any relevance in the past 7 years?
This and he's Cormier's biggest win hahahaha. Phone Post
1/14/13 8:29 PM
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Barnett...

 

PRIDE... 

 

I'd hate to be a fighter around Mir's age and not know what it was like fighting for the best MMA organization of ALL TIME.

 

How does fighting in PRIDE make barnett the more accomplished fighter? Phone Post

Kevin Randleman is more accomplished than Mir! He was in Pride!
1/14/13 8:30 PM
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Ryann Von Doom -  Mir is the poorman's barnett. This fight needs to be made, fuck dc vs mir. Phone Post

Disagree about poorman, but no doubt this is the fight to make. DC vs. Mir is dumb
1/14/13 8:30 PM
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Olive Garden Table For One -  Mir has much bigger highs and lows, but is the greater of the two. Mir also never failed a drug test, but Barnett never lost to Brandon Vera Phone Post

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