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1/18/13 12:25 PM
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Gracie breakdown talked about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTxAjN1XSso&feature=youtube_gdata_player

They get a little all over the place but I think they have some points, might come across a little self promoting? Phone Post
1/18/13 3:59 PM
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1/18/13 4:05 PM
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1/18/13 5:02 PM
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Ryan Hall's letter to the Martial Arts community:

http://livingthemartialarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open-Letter-to-the-Martial-Arts-Community-2.pdf
1/18/13 5:17 PM
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Forrest Gimp - Ryan Hall's letter to the Martial Arts community:

http://livingthemartialarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open-Letter-to-the-Martial-Arts-Community-2.pdf

Wow.  I saved the pdf and it is heartening to see this, the Gracie video, Tom Callos, and others come forward and show what martial arts is really about.

 

Let's keep the balance on the side of right.  There's a lot of it out there and I'm proud of and grateful for that.

 

TTT and keep fighting the good fight.

1/18/13 5:19 PM
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And keep fighting what's wrong.  Never stop fighting what's wrong.

 

That's what it's all about.

1/18/13 5:45 PM
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Encouraging to read Ryan's letter.

Thank you, Ryan.

1/18/13 6:46 PM
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http://livingthemartialarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Open-Letter-to-the-Martial-Arts-Community-2.pdf

ttt for Marcos Avellan. It was your NON cult mentality that led you and Dave to be innovators in grappling- the 2 of you did NOT think like everyone else. I don't think you would have posted something like what you did on FB before becoming affiliated with Irvin.
1/18/13 7:03 PM
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This video is not to impress you..It's too impress upon you how using Master lloyd Irving's help you can accomplish anything you want with your life, with your gym and with your business- Marcos Avellan

 

 

 

aaaaahhhhh...heart warming..Master Lloyd Irving is so nice he loves to give......................NOT

1/18/13 7:10 PM
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tomcallos - A thank you to the people in/on this forum for your nice words and support. It's a weird, weird time for the martial arts world --and due to all of this, a weird time for our family. What a sad, messed up, disheartening, slap-in-the-face for the martial arts community. What a dishonorable record of shame. Helio Gracie, Meada, and Kano must be spinning in their graves. I too, in the shadow of this disgrace, find myself questioning whether I have wasted my time pursuing the study of the martial arts as a path to any sort of clarity. When these are our "Masters," what does it say about the martial arts? Ugh.

You sound a bit down Tom.

But don't worry! I have just the thing for you!

Black Belt Pyschology!

Yes taught by the fully non-credited not-degree having not-a-psychologist Marcos Avellon.

http://blackbeltpsychology.com/

Im not posting that to impress you... but to impress upon you importance of... some shit I dont know i got through about 2 minutes of the video.

This stuff is great for chuckle.

Cant wait for Marcos to make another thread so it backfire so spectacularly like the last one.

1/18/13 8:15 PM
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You know shits bead when you have to start disabling comments on your sales videos
1/18/13 10:13 PM
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1/19/13 12:20 AM
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Great video from Rener and Ryron, and excellent read from Ryan Hall.

It is nice to see some big dogs in the BJJ community speak about all this.
1/19/13 3:26 AM
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1/19/13 4:34 AM
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Quel surprise, comments and rating disabled for the above informercial.

1/19/13 5:38 AM
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cheesesteak - You know shits bead when you have to start disabling comments on your sales videos
I don't think they can disable response videos though Phone Post
1/19/13 10:57 AM
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excellent letter by Ryan Hall
1/19/13 11:31 AM
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1/20/13 10:49 PM
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1/20/13 11:00 PM
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1/22/13 3:48 PM
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1/22/13 6:18 PM
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Keep fighting the good fight Tom! Hopefully you are able to rescue your son from this cult.
5/11/13 3:50 PM
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He left after this, didn't he?
5/11/13 10:45 PM
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who me?

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