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1/20/13 1:14 PM
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Because he should be...

I just noticed that Alcantara got his win bonus, is it safe to assume that Dana gave Nobre his walking papers for last nights "performance"? Phone Post
1/20/13 1:19 PM
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1/20/13 1:24 PM
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I think its fairly safe to assume that Dana will cut him for that. :-)
1/20/13 1:29 PM
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I disagree.

 

As much as I believe he was acting, there is no way to prove it.  He may actually have been knocked fucking silly.  He took some hard fucking shots before the DQ.  It's not outside the realm of possibility that those (completely legal) shots knocked him stupid.

 

I don't think you should cut a guy coming off a win because you 'think' he gamed the system.  Just give him a ridiculously difficult matchup in his next fight and cut him after he loses. 

1/20/13 1:33 PM
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Steve4192 -

I disagree.

 

As much as I believe he was acting, there is no way to prove it.  He may actually have been knocked fucking silly.  He took some hard fucking shots before the DQ.  It's not outside the realm of possibility that those (completely legal) shots knocked him stupid.

 

I don't think you should cut a guy coming off a win because you 'think' he gamed the system.  Just give him a ridiculously difficult matchup in his next fight and cut him after he loses. 

It was a no contest. Phone Post
1/20/13 1:40 PM
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Sure fucking hope so. He took an elbow to the side of the dome and acted like it was to the back of the head. Then proceded to cry how he cant go on. He was getting his ass kicked and took the bitch way out.

1/20/13 1:41 PM
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I think they won't cut him, but I would expect his next match up to be a tough one.
1/20/13 1:43 PM
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Dang, was it really that bad? Phone Post
1/20/13 1:43 PM
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1/20/13 1:45 PM
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1/20/13 1:58 PM
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Steve4192 - 

I disagree.

 

As much as I believe he was acting, there is no way to prove it.  He may actually have been knocked fucking silly.  He took some hard fucking shots before the DQ.  It's not outside the realm of possibility that those (completely legal) shots knocked him stupid.

 

I don't think you should cut a guy coming off a win because you 'think' he gamed the system.  Just give him a ridiculously difficult matchup in his next fight and cut him after he loses. 


I agree. It wasn't like he got steam rolled from the opening bell and was just looking for a way out of the fight. Up till he ended up giving up his back the fight was looking to be pretty competitive. He was going to get a restart on the feet and that would have only benefited.
1/20/13 2:12 PM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Dang, was it really that bad? Phone Post
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Yes it was that bad , you should def watch it. Phone Post

He laid in the cage fora long time and then needed help to walk out. Anything could have happened but it certainly did not look like the 3 shots he took could have caused such damage.  I would be interested to see what the doctors had to say about any real injuries .

 

It certainly seemed like an extravagant act. 

 

1/20/13 2:20 PM
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Steve4192 -

I disagree.

 

As much as I believe he was acting, there is no way to prove it.  He may actually have been knocked fucking silly.  He took some hard fucking shots before the DQ.  It's not outside the realm of possibility that those (completely legal) shots knocked him stupid.

 

I don't think you should cut a guy coming off a win because you 'think' he gamed the system.  Just give him a ridiculously difficult matchup in his next fight and cut him after he loses. 

If he took some hard shots and they knocked him silly then surely that is a TKO for Alcantara.

I'm not trying to be a dick here but you're basically saying the NC was justified because he got hurt. Of course he got hurt! It was a fight after all. If the perfectly legal shots to the side of the head left Nobre unable to continue because he was too hurt then that should be a TKO victory for Alcantara.

There is a way to prove the shots were legal, watch the replays. I see what you're saying but the fact Alcantara didn't get the TKO is beyond me... Phone Post
1/20/13 2:33 PM
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Didnt Alcantra get his win bonus anyways?

Downloading fights now so havent seen anything

1/20/13 2:36 PM
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He should be cut. Crying and staggering out of the cage and being helped back by 2 of his trainers. People that get KTFO cold don't even do that. Not to mention the shots he took were completely legal and hitting the head in a closed fist slapping motion. Hardly "vicious shots".

What knocked him silly was the completely legal elbow. Getting his ass kicked and Big Dan's incompetence afforded Nobre a quick out which he clearly took full advantage of.

Awful display of gamesmanship and props to Kenny Florian for having none of it and calling his ass out on the spot. Phone Post
1/20/13 2:41 PM
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IHangFromBJsBallSack -

Didnt Alcantra get his win bonus anyways?

Downloading fights now so havent seen anything

Yea at least he got his win bonus, but he also has a permanent black mark on his record that shouldn't be there.

Hopefully the higher ups at the UFC will remember this if Alcantara loses his next fight... Going 0-0-2-1 in your last three isn't ideal. However, this is only if Alcantara hypothetically loses his next fight which is unlikely because he is a great fighter. Phone Post
1/20/13 3:25 PM
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1/20/13 4:20 PM
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Different weight classes. Phone Post
1/20/13 5:08 PM
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Thanks for the interview, now it all makes sense... Phone Post
1/20/13 5:26 PM
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lol run it through google translate, it comes out reasonably accurate, but i translated the main point lol


Great post mate !! Makes perfect sense now , I hope they can change the result and give the winner the W that he deserves .
1/20/13 5:39 PM
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Hopefully this creates more publicity for Alcantara and they begin to take notice of him. He's a very good fighter, top 10 talent. Amazing striking and bjj. Phone Post
1/20/13 5:40 PM
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It would be a bad precedent to punish someone for saying they can't continue, even if you suspect they're faking. The last thing the sport needs is fighters feeling like they have to keep going when they can't, like Cole Miller on TUF 5 trying to continue with a concussion because he didn't feel like he could say "I'm dizzy and I can't see straight."

It's also worth pointing out that the fighter himself didn't claim that he was hit in the back of the head. That was the determination of the referee.
1/20/13 5:42 PM
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Yes, that makes sense. Hopefully people will get off this guys back now.
1/20/13 5:50 PM
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Yeah he was pretty beat up, I don't think he was all there for him to realize that most of the shots were legal. Phone Post
1/20/13 5:51 PM
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through google translate:

Even with cervical collar, BTT fighter already thinking next challenge UFC

The night of Peter Noble (pictured), the Brazilian Top Team fighter (BTT), was long from Saturday to Sunday. After receiving blows on the back of the neck illegal in the duel against Yuri Marajó, Peter was sent to the Hospital Santa Catarina, where he remained under observation until 4 am Sunday. Peter arrived at around 5am the hotel where athletes are staying longer with a cervical collar to protect your neck.

Peter Noble tried to explain what happened, despite not remembering every moment.

"What I remember is that I was in a position beneath the Yuri. He hit me several blows to the back of the head until he gave me a blackout. Need not know if picked up at the nape and how many blows were not, but if the referee stopped is because he saw something wrong. Today MMA is a sport considered to have rules, then we have to respect. But when I woke up I thought I'd lost the fight knocked out. know that I only had been declared in a fight without result hospital, by my staff, "he said.

Aware that had no influence on the result, after the interruption of the fight was a decision of the referee and doctors, Pedrinho already thinking in returning to the Octagon. And a new fight opponent Saturday is not discarded.

"I met Yuri in the hotel lobby when I came back from the hospital. He came to apologize and reinforced that never had any intention of hitting me illegally. Immediately I told him he need not worry, because I know he is a person full like me. Accidents happen and this time the victim was me. We are two fighters with similar characteristics, that fight forward. soon I return to the Octagon. UFC Should a cop-piece insists would do everything to make the show for the public "said Noble.

Now Peter Noble awaits a new medical assessment to find out exactly how long he will have to stay in recovery. This definition will come in a week when he will be reevaluated.

The BTT chief Murilo Bustamante, was keen to show their support for the fighter.

"Pedro is one of the warriors who have more athletes here at the academy.'ve Seen this guy go perrengues many other struggles, giving a comeback and emerge victorious. At the Yuri fighting a similar case happened when he took a American and an incredible race got rid of the position and moved on. Many would have beaten there. thank God all the tests done at the hospital did not show any trauma or fractures and severe head and cervical spine, although he still have signs and symptoms injury. now have to cherish for his recovery, which is the most important, "said Murillo.


Personally, I have a hard time believing anyone would fake acting like that. I've never seen that in my life. I'm not sure he was faking, but of course I don't know. You can't always tell with the cameras exactly how bad a guy is hurt from a strike.

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