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3/22/13 12:47 PM
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3/22/13 1:20 PM
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Can someone please tell my why anyone cares if Juggernaut has a forcefield or not?

 

3/22/13 2:36 PM
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"Isn't there a mcfarlane spiderman comic where shatterstar actually makes juggernaut bleed when he stabs him in the eyes?"

Yes. They like to pretend Shatterstar has a magic sword whose sole property is being able to hurt Juggernaut. No OHOTMU, Marvel.com, etc say anything about Shatterstar's swords being magical, nor does any comic ever written. They are just sweet swords. His actual power is sending some kind of vibration energy through them or something lame like that.

What's hilarious is that Skarhead will harp on and on about how "if Hulk stopped Juggernaut, there would be captions and dialogue about what a big deal it was". Meanwhile this C-level character stabs his fucking eye out and absolutely no one bats an eye about it being an extraordinary event whatsoever. Juggs gets pissed about his eye and that's it. Absolutely nobody says it shouldn't have happened or how could it have happened, or anything of the sort. No captions or dialogue about "this is the first time Juggernaut has ever been hurt! How did it happen????"

They like to bizarrely conflate this incident with an entirely different incident, in a different issue, by a different writer, in which Juggernaut can't understand how his helmet -- which he says was "mystically bonded to his armor" -- is cut off by Shatterstar. Shatterstar says his sword is awesome and "more than capable of slicing your helmet from its moorings". No connection whatsoever to causing injuries in an EARLIER issue, nor does he even then say it's a magic sword -- a magic sword that never before or since did anything magical. Juggs' stupid helmet gets knocked off in virtually every fight and half the time he seems flabbergasted by it, yet it never requires magic to do it.

 

Shatterstar's entry on Marvel.com:

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3/22/13 3:24 PM
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16 PAGES OF GEEK FILLED HATE........I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT THIS FAR.......I AM SO PROUD OF ALL OF YOU. WELL DONE STICK.........WELL DONE.
3/22/13 3:35 PM
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TEAM HULK!!!!!

3/23/13 3:31 PM
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Can someone please tell my why anyone cares if Juggernaut has a forcefield or not?

 


Because those forcefields are not powered / backed by Cytorrak....Because Hulk can't punch harder than Thor can hit you with his hammer. Because Hulk can't hurt Juggernaut when he has the forcefield on and Juggernaut already proved that he can snatch up Hulk, put him in a vise-like headlock he can't break out of, and KHTFO w/ short punches....and KO him so hard that Hulk won't wake up for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. If Red Skull didn't show up to SAVE Hulk and make Juggernaut stop beating on his limp, defenseless, lifeless body....Hulk would be dead now. Period.



Hulk just needs to be VERY glad that there's a gaggle of various characters in the MU like Proff X, Jean Grey, Mentallo, Apocalyspe, and The Red Skull that are so dedicated to step in and help Hulk against this one particular opponent at EVERY turn. They are ALWAYS there to "help"...and he always has and always will need their help....Even WW Hulk needed help from Proff X (that's twice now). ..."Hulk Smash !!!!" just doesn't work against Juggernaut. Getting Marvels mutants, telepaths, villains, and maybe an akido instructor to facilitate cowardly/ harmless battlefield removal tactics just works so SOOOOOOO much better.



WW Hulk looked sooooooooooo much more powerful against the MU....even took on the Sentry...WOW !





Unfortuntely styles make fights and literally none of that meant jack shit when confronted w/ a regular ol' Juggernut. The baddest Hulk ever still can't max out Cytorrak and still , in NO WAY can ever hope to physically bully the Juggernaut. Just gets beat down, bloodied, pushed around, and abused and disrespected as usual......hence Hulk's cowardly battlefield removal and escape tactics when with literally EVERY other opponent it's "HULK SMASH !!!!!"



L M A O !! WW Hulk didn't smash shit when Cain showed up. The bully proceeded to get bullied and beat at his own game....hence the sudden cowardly change in tactics and the overwhelming need to suddenly leave so badly when he refused to leave for 4 issues......leave right before a completely unharmed Juggernaut returned, which was very shortly after he left. Suddenly Hulk didn't want to "SMASH !!!" anymore.....because he just couldn't.




Look Hulk is great. Everyone has a bad match though. Hulk just can't smash and be the bully when Cain is in the room.



Cool scans though.





3/23/13 3:43 PM
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Juggs ktfo of hulk in the swamp is hilarious from both perspectives - Juggernaut knew he couldn't win a fair fight against prof hulk and so had to use trickery. Prof hulk was so stupid that he fell for it AND his healing factor deserted him. Phone Post
3/23/13 6:56 PM
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Magneto + Xavier = Caine crumbling but Hulk kickng ass. Caine is mentally a total pussy.
3/23/13 9:23 PM
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3/23/13 9:25 PM
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Leigh -  Juggs ktfo of hulk in the swamp is hilarious from both perspectives - Juggernaut knew he couldn't win a fair fight against prof hulk and so had to use trickery. Prof hulk was so stupid that he fell for it AND his healing factor deserted him. Phone Post

Enough with this excuse about the Hulk holding back. Doesn't matter if the Hulk says it out loud or in thought...he NEEDS to think he held back to save his own ego. Hulk doesn't like to lose.

Doesn't change the fact that this supposed "smart" Hulk was holding back against his 7ft 900 opponent with superhuman proportions like him...or the average construction worker-

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It doesn't matter if Hulk held back initially or not...Once the fight was on and Hulk felt several class 100+ level punches to his dome, saw that his opponent could take punishement, grappled with him and felt his strength and mass....and he's still holding back ? Riiiight.....and then after all this Juggernaut lands himself in quicksand and is sinking...Now Hulk has more than enough time to recover from whatever initial damage he took as Juggernaut was now sinking and , asses what was in front of him. No more excuses, they already tussled and Hulk felt a Juggernaut's attack who was not holding back....and he had time to recover.



And it was AFTER all this that Juggernaut snatched the Hulk like a pimp snatches his crackhead hooker and put him in a viselike headlock Hulk simply failed to break...I guess he was holding his strength back here too...Doesn't matter. Couldn't break Juggernaut's grip and he couldn't handle Juggernaut's close range punches either. Hulk got bitched, manhandled, and layed out for a looooong while.
3/24/13 2:46 AM
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Why does the weakest version of hulk getting ko'd count so much, but "depowered" juggs getting constantly smashed by......well, everbody not count? Juggernaut hasnt really been able to bully Hulk, Hulk is usually the one throwing juggs into mountains, punching him so hard that juggs magic helmet (you know, the one backed by cyttorak) gets dented and he expresses pain? Hulks young ass son even punched Juggernaut into orbit while breaking his "magic cyttorack" armor.

Hulk has broken the crimson bands of cyttorack as well.
3/24/13 3:28 AM
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Lol @ making excuses - the one win for Juggs is tainted but you make 1001 excuses for his numerous losses. Give me a break. Phone Post
3/24/13 3:44 AM
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Professor Hulk is not the weakest. Gray Hulk was.

3/24/13 12:36 PM
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"Because Hulk can't hurt Juggernaut when he has the forcefield on"

Do you have any substantiation whatsoever for this belief? Or is it just more pure bullshit out of your diseased mind, that in your years of arguing you still haven't found any actual basis for?

"Enough with this excuse about the Hulk holding back. Doesn't matter if the Hulk says it out loud or in thought...he NEEDS to think he held back to save his own ego. Hulk doesn't like to lose."

You think maybe the fact that Hulk fought him for an entire issue and never hit him might support the claim that he was holding back? How often does Hulk go through an entire fight and only shove, throw, and TRY TO SAVE his opponent? He threw like two punches and missed both, and spent the rest of the time doing some minor grappling and throwing sand.

Funny how you think Juggernaut wasn't stopped because the writer -- who said flat-out that he was stopped -- didn't print a caption saying so, yet at the same time, we have BOTH characters speaking on-page dialogue making it clear that Hulk held back and Juggs won by trickery, and yet here you reverse your opinion entirely and say that their dialogue and thought balloons are meaningless.

" against his 7ft 900 opponent with superhuman proportions like him...or the average construction worker-"

I love when you make comments like this that suggest you've never actually read a comic book in your life. I seem to remember Juggs sitting in a bar in NYC hitting on a girl and no one giving him a second look even though he's 7ft, 900lb...presumably this happens all the time since he does actually have some kind of life. 

"The baddest Hulk ever still can't max out Cytorrak"

Two problems here, one being of course this insane and -- as usual -- hopelessly insubstantiated belief that you need to "max out Cytorrak", as though Cytorrak is literally pouring every ounce of his power into his moron of an avatar at all times; and the second being that apparently Hulk did so since he both hurt Juggs with a punch and stopped him in his tracks; this of course in addition to having previously put Juggs down and out for a Kimbo-style 30+ count with one punch to the stomach.

"hence the sudden cowardly change in tactics and the overwhelming need to suddenly leave so badly when he refused to leave for 4 issues.."

It's always fun to have discussions with you because you just repeat the same mindless drivel no matter how often you're proved to be ridiculous. Every single thing Hulk said in all three of those issues was "get out of my way, I'm just here for Xavier". Yet you act like his goal was just to move into the X-Mansion and put his feet up on the couch, and Juggernaut forced him to change his plans. Hulk, AS USUAL, accomplished his objective and went on his way completely unscathed, while, AS USUAL, Juggernaut ended the encounter having failed miserably at his objective, picking 2-day old Westchester County feces out of his teeth.

"Hulk just can't smash and be the bully when Cain is in the room."

Except, again, every time Hulk gets pissed, Cain ends up on his ass somewhere, a failure as usual, while Hulk continues merrily on his way, having done what he set out to do, without a second thought for that underachieving failure. You're right to an extent though, he can't "just smash" Juggs. The problem is for you guys there seems to be nothing between "easily smashable" and "impossible to beat".

P.S. Good job at dicktucking every single pathetic argument you made, and I easily refuted, on the last page. Nothing new to see here, folks. Business as usual for Skarhead.

3/24/13 11:57 PM
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I think Hulk can punch harder than Thor can throw his hammer.

And I bet if they fought again in the modern era a Thor hammer blow would fuck up Juggernaut.

3/25/13 2:52 PM
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BIGWHITESEXY - 16 PAGES OF GEEK FILLED HATE........I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT THIS FAR.......I AM SO PROUD OF ALL OF YOU. WELL DONE STICK.........WELL DONE.

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3/26/13 1:27 AM
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Don't remember if the full page was posted.

Here is Hulk definitively stopping Juggernaut though. Juggernaut is in motion and then the Hulk stops him dead in his tracks, you can see the look of fear in Juggernaut's eyes because he knows he's being Alpha'd. He probably thinks to himself, "If only you activated your bubble so you could hide!"

3/28/13 1:41 PM
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they will fight and keep on fighting, both will get tired and just leave

the above caption, Hulk augmented with Celestial tech

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