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1/25/13 12:39 AM
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thegreenroom -  (Anderson vs Rockhold) VS (Belfort vs Weidman)

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Bullshit. Bisping is back of the line. This would have been great when he was on a streak, but he just got starched by an over the hill Vitor.

Read it again, Magoo.

 

 

Also Anderson is definitely ducking Long Island.

1/25/13 12:56 AM
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this. Anybody who says Weidman shouldn't be next or says that he's entitled is a simple retard. He's earned his god damn shot and when he opens his mouth people think he's entitled?? I would be pissed and disgusted if I was Weidman. Silva is ducking him and he's no less of a draw than Rockhold is

What the fuck has CW done!? He beat a fat Munoz and now he DESERVES a shot at Silva?!....GTFO with that shit...Silva wants good fights for great money plain and simple. He gets that with Luke. Phone Post
1/25/13 1:14 AM
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Jason - I like the champ vs champ fight.

I can't stand weidmans sense of entitlement. He has won 5 fights in the UFC and only two were even impressive.

He needs more time . Fight with Rockhold makes sense Phone Post
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1/25/13 5:55 AM
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Source that they offered Anderson Silva the fight with Wiedman???

 



http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2038415&page=1
1/25/13 6:21 AM
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LOOK at each fighters twitter following! Victories of a #3 and #6 is as good as most of AS's opponents when defending. It's BETTER than Rockhold for sure

Also LMFAO big time at saying JBJ has not done enough with his 3 defences

AND

bringing Cung (as much as I like him)

1/25/13 6:28 AM
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Bringing 'up' Cung above sorry.

BTW AS's manager wrong about JBJ's defenses too, after April it will be 5 (it's not 3), and the average strength of opponent is VERY high in that run too.
1/25/13 7:55 AM
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The champion vs champion series of fights would be good. Heck, have a whole card of UFC vs Strikeforce!

1/25/13 8:01 AM
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Bringing 'up' Cung above sorry.

BTW AS's manager wrong about JBJ's defenses too, after April it will be 5 (it's not 3), and the average strength of opponent is VERY high in that run too.
Once it is 5 that average will certainly be lowered.

Jones will then have 3 guys on his resume that Anderson already beat. 2 of which are fucking MIDDLEWEIGHTS. Two if which Anderson beat in much more impressive fashion. :) Phone Post
1/25/13 8:36 AM
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da Vinci 81 -  Anderson turned down weidman, it's common knowledge. And he's asked for bisping and even a nick Diaz fight in the past when neither fighter was ever the top contender.

And cote was someone silva wanted to fight which was criticized repeatedly considering many feel he was undeserving of a shot. Phone Post

I was responding to guardbreaker about turning down a "contracted fight" as that is how he defended GSP.

 

If the UFC wanted Anderson to face Weidman they would have made the fight. Having conversations with the UFC about POTENTIAL match ups is not the same as refusing a "contracted fight".



Such crap, take a break. We all found out that the UFC can't make anyone take a fight after 151 out of Dana's mouth. All they can do is strip, sound reasonable? Not to me either.

They offered the fight AS's camp and they declined. End of story.

Sonow we are comparing a 10 day replacement to discussions months out from a potential match up?

 

Good logic. 

 

"Whoever the UFC wants. We are in" end of story.

1/25/13 8:38 AM
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Yup gsp is ducking anderson, the yellow belly.
1/25/13 8:52 AM
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da Vinci 81 -  Anderson turned down weidman, it's common knowledge. And he's asked for bisping and even a nick Diaz fight in the past when neither fighter was ever the top contender.

And cote was someone silva wanted to fight which was criticized repeatedly considering many feel he was undeserving of a shot. Phone Post

I was responding to guardbreaker about turning down a "contracted fight" as that is how he defended GSP.

 

If the UFC wanted Anderson to face Weidman they would have made the fight. Having conversations with the UFC about POTENTIAL match ups is not the same as refusing a "contracted fight".



Such crap, take a break. We all found out that the UFC can't make anyone take a fight after 151 out of Dana's mouth. All they can do is strip, sound reasonable? Not to me either.

They offered the fight AS's camp and they declined. End of story.

Sonow we are comparing a 10 day replacement to discussions months out from a potential match up?

 

Good logic. 

 

"Whoever the UFC wants. We are in" end of story.



Dude take a brake from AS trolling for a damn day, take a breath bro. He was NOT taking about a 10 day replacement at the time.

Dana was asked what his (the UFC's) position was in being able to 'make any fighter fight another' (if it was in the contracts that the fighter had to fight) when the UFC wanted them to fight (were talking about the conference call when he went a little crazy here BTW). He answered that's not how this business works, and that the fighters have to fight because they are fighters, and he can not make them fight.

" All they can do is strip, sound reasonable? Not to me either.

They offered the fight to AS's camp and they declined. End of story."

Per other sources I have supplied and you have likewise refused to accept this was not the first time as well.

Further you need to accept there is flawed logic in fighting
Rockhold over Weidman using the $$$ argument I always supported (suckered again).

Just look at at each fighters twitter following (as stated).

It's not worth not fighting the true #1 here, there just can't be that much of a $$$ difference.



1/25/13 9:00 AM
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The amount of idiot Silva hate in this thread is incredible. You guys don't have a single argument that is valid. He has fought and destroyed everyone the UFC has put in front of him. He has never turned down a a fight contract. Chris Weidman is HURT, and won't be 100% until at least May. Add a full training camp to that and he isn't ready for a fight until July or August. You really want your great white hope to fight Anderson coming off nearly a year layoff? Some fans you are.


Go on, continue to grasp at straws. Phone Post
1/25/13 9:07 AM
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"Whoever the UFC wants. We are in"

Except that's flat out incorrect. They wanted him to fight weidman or else that fight would never have been offered. And the UFC obviously felt he was a big enough draw to make the fight for the same reason.

You can quote soares saying that until you're blue in the face but it still doesn't make it true. Phone Post
1/25/13 9:14 AM
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He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post
1/25/13 9:14 AM
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Great fight.


And Weidman is injured you fucking faggots.
1/25/13 9:16 AM
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da Vinci 81 -  "Whoever the UFC wants. We are in"

Except that's flat out incorrect. They wanted him to fight weidman or else that fight would never have been offered. And the UFC obviously felt he was a big enough draw to make the fight for the same reason.

You can quote soares saying that until you're blue in the face but it still doesn't make it true. Phone Post

So Ed and the other manager are lying when you want them to be, but telling the truth when you want them to be?

 

Got it. Thanks. 

 

Can you point to anyone in the UFC upper MGMT who has EVER said that Anderson refused a contracted fight offer? 

 

You do realize that Dana/JoeS/Lorenzo have conversations all the time with the champions about when they can fight next and who they prefer? 

1/25/13 9:17 AM
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Gooner H Smith -  He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post

To the haters, any discussion about possible match ups for Anderson = a contracted fight. If Anderson doesn't say yes to EVERY discussion about possible opponents he is a coward/ducking/scared/pussy to them...

1/25/13 9:17 AM
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Gooner H Smith - He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post
Yes, actually he was. Just because the UFC didn't force him to take the fight doesn't mean he wasn't offered it. Phone Post
1/25/13 9:18 AM
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Gooner H Smith - He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post
Yes, actually he was. Just because the UFC didn't force him to take the fight doesn't mean he wasn't offered it. Phone Post

I would be willing to bet that EVERY champion in the UFC has had conversations with the brass about who and when they can fight next, and every one of them probably tells the brass who they prefer to fight. THEY ARE ALL DUCKERS!!!!! DERP!!!!

1/25/13 9:20 AM
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Gooner H Smith -  He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post

To the haters, any discussion about possible match ups for Anderson = a contracted fight. If Anderson doesn't say yes to EVERY discussion about possible opponents he is a coward/ducking/scared/pussy to them...

Except it wasn't a discussion. His own management verified the UFC proposed the matchup for them sometime late last year. They said no and the UFC was ok with that. What's so difficult to accept about that? Phone Post
1/25/13 9:21 AM
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Gooner H Smith - He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post
Yes, actually he was. Just because the UFC didn't force him to take the fight doesn't mean he wasn't offered it. Phone Post

I would be willing to bet that EVERY champion in the UFC has had conversations with the brass about who and when they can fight next, and every one of them probably tells the brass who they prefer to fight. THEY ARE ALL DUCKERS!!!!! DERP!!!!

Then source it. Stop acting like it's a common thing everyone does to protect Anderson and prove it. Phone Post
1/25/13 9:26 AM
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Easy fight for Silva, no striker is touching him.
1/25/13 9:27 AM
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Gooner H Smith -  The amount of idiot Silva hate in this thread is incredible. You guys don't have a single argument that is valid. He has fought and destroyed everyone the UFC has put in front of him. He has never turned down a a fight contract. Chris Weidman is HURT, and won't be 100% until at least May. Add a full training camp to that and he isn't ready for a fight until July or August. You really want your great white hope to fight Anderson coming off nearly a year layoff? Some fans you are.


Go on, continue to grasp at straws. Phone Post

This! Silva haters are the same simians who said Silva was ducking Belfort then ducking Chael after he destroyed him.

You guys going to start hyping Consta Phillipou after Silva beats Weidman?
1/25/13 9:31 AM
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tatooedMillionaire - I want to see Weidman get his shot eventually. That fight needs to happen.

I'd like to see Weidman fight someone in the top 5 before gettin a shot

1/25/13 9:32 AM
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Gooner H Smith -  He was never offered Weidman. Stop acting like he was. It makes you look really stupid. Phone Post

To the haters, any discussion about possible match ups for Anderson = a contracted fight. If Anderson doesn't say yes to EVERY discussion about possible opponents he is a coward/ducking/scared/pussy to them...

Except it wasn't a discussion. His own management verified the UFC proposed the matchup for them sometime late last year. They said no and the UFC was ok with that. What's so difficult to accept about that? Phone Post

The quote went something like ' The UFC asked if we would be interested in a fight with Weidman'...

 

That sounds like a conversation, not 'The UFC wanted us to fight Weidman next but we refused'. 

 

Same way I would bet that GSP wanting Diaz instead of Hendricks went. UFC opens a discussion up, the Champ or his mgrs have a conversation with the UFC about what they want. GSP wants a bigger payday than Hendricks, as does Anderson. 

 

Just listen to Ed in the most recent interview. Of course he is LYING in that one, but telling the truth in the others to you, right? They PREFER someone other than Weidman, but whoever the UFC tells them to fight, they will fight. Dana White has said this over and over about Anderson being willing to do whatever the UFC asks of him. Only to you, as a hater, he and his team and Dana are all lying when it suits your cause, and Dana and Ed are telling the truth when it suits your cause. 


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