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1/30/13 6:29 PM
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Looking to get on TRT. I'm sure it's not necessary but what is really. I am a believer in better living through chemistry and have pretty decent insurance etc. I'm 35, overweight and out of shape now. Not sure what hormone levels are (don't care frankly, but i'm sure they could be a bit higher). Are there doctors around (i'm in socal, Orange County) who will just write these prescriptions for people like Florida doctors give out Oxys? How much does the medicine cost? Do you get roids or hgh or both? Would like HGH I guess. Do these make weight loss faster? Muscle growth faster? Mood enhanced? Bigger peepee? What are negative side effects if any? Save the moral faggotry. I put in work everyday, just looking for enhancers.
1/30/13 6:39 PM
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go eat another cheeseburger, fatty
1/30/13 7:54 PM
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Please delete, i'm moving to OG. Seems more appropriate as I'm discussing topics broader than strength and conditioning.
1/30/13 8:01 PM
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There's been a million trt threads man.
1/30/13 8:03 PM
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5pointer - There's been a million trt threads man.

Been a million gun control, weed, black guy, immigration, video game, iphone vs android, mac vs pc, how to get laid, etc threads as well. No two are exactly alike though.
1/30/13 9:01 PM
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Here in Canada they give you a topical testosterone gel.
1/31/13 1:41 AM
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Fat attention whore has to start another, "Look at me, I'm on TRT," thread. Phone Post
1/31/13 10:36 AM
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The doc would have to check what your levels are to see if you're appropraite for treatment... contrary to popular belief if they arent low they wont treat you unless theyre shady, being overweight means your body converts an increased amount of testosterone to female hormones, do a good diet like fitnessvt and you'll get more fat loss than going on trt... HGH is expensive from a doctor and if you take it for a period of time it may affect your natural production, the same with being on trt for a while...

1/31/13 12:01 PM
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The doc would have to check what your levels are to see if you're appropraite for treatment... contrary to popular belief if they arent low they wont treat you unless theyre shady, being overweight means your body converts an increased amount of testosterone to female hormones, do a good diet like fitnessvt and you'll get more fat loss than going on trt... HGH is expensive from a doctor and if you take it for a period of time it may affect your natural production, the same with being on trt for a while...

Diets fine. I eat paleoish at whole foods after evening workout. Fast all day. Weight is dropping . Again I'm looking for a "shady" doctor. I'd like to use my insurance but maybe I'll just get a Tijuana doctor. Still haven't decided. What's this stuff cost? What is it exactly? Yeah I know testosterone , but what would I ask for at a pharmacy? Phone Post
1/31/13 12:17 PM
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The doc would have to check what your levels are to see if you're appropraite for treatment... contrary to popular belief if they arent low they wont treat you unless theyre shady, being overweight means your body converts an increased amount of testosterone to female hormones, do a good diet like fitnessvt and you'll get more fat loss than going on trt... HGH is expensive from a doctor and if you take it for a period of time it may affect your natural production, the same with being on trt for a while...


So I should cycle it if I get it right? What about HGH? I realize that's probably not HRT but are there "longetivity" type doctors that would prescribe it. Does it do much besides make your head bigger? Anyone on that? Thanks everyone for the kind responses.
1/31/13 12:18 PM
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LiveFromThe7x7 -  Fat attention whore has to start another, "Look at me, I'm on TRT," thread. Phone Post

I've been here alot longer than you, yet you've double my post count. WTF are you going on about?
1/31/13 1:15 PM
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The doc would have to check what your levels are to see if you're appropraite for treatment... contrary to popular belief if they arent low they wont treat you unless theyre shady, being overweight means your body converts an increased amount of testosterone to female hormones, do a good diet like fitnessvt and you'll get more fat loss than going on trt... HGH is expensive from a doctor and if you take it for a period of time it may affect your natural production, the same with being on trt for a while...


So I should cycle it if I get it right? What about HGH? I realize that's probably not HRT but are there "longetivity" type doctors that would prescribe it. Does it do much besides make your head bigger? Anyone on that? Thanks everyone for the kind responses.

look at an anti-aging clinic if thats the route you want to go (hgh), just google that in your area

 

1/31/13 3:09 PM
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OP you sound like a troll to be honest.


But I'll say this anyway, if you don't have low T that's obviously not the reason your a disgusting fat body. So when you get prescribed T to bring you back to a normal range it isn't gonna make any difference because your already normal. Don't do TRT unless you need it.
Just fucking cycle if you wanna see a big change in appearence as a TRT dose ain't gonna do shit for aesthetics.

But as I said, your probably just trolling Phone Post
1/31/13 3:15 PM
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^Why the hell would I troll?!? You really think i'm sitting here going "OMG these people think i'm being serious. i'm really a greek god physically and never take any foreign substances into my body as the body is a temple." Noone trolls about such things. Few people troll about anything. I'm sincerely into supplements and interested in people's results from taking various hormones and ways of acquiring such things our beneficent government deems you and I unable to make our own decisions about.
1/31/13 3:19 PM
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Mostly interested in the costs and whether insurance covers and how much after that. Googling I found someone who said 30k a year (HGH). Heard of vials of hgh going for 150 in Tijuana, still haven't determined how long a vial lasts, how many ius in a vial etc. Say an enlightened doctor determines my test levels are low and I get HMO to cover costs. How much is this TRT stuff usually out of pocket?
1/31/13 3:54 PM
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Ok then you say your not a troll. But you also say you want trt but you don't know what your T level is and you don't really give a fuck? I find it hard to believe people actually think like this, this is why I thought you were trolling. You see my point? Phone Post
1/31/13 4:16 PM
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Check out the Joey Diaz podcast, Church of What's Happening Now ep.#44 with Dr. Frank Bredice, a hormone specialist out of Santa Monica. Lot of info straight from a doctor in that podcast. Get it in itunes or here:

http://ec.libsyn.com/p/1/2/e/12e141acd1adaceb/1.9.13.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d01cd8e31d6cb5a0f9c&c_id=5300851
1/31/13 5:17 PM
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TwoCanVanneDamne -  Ok then you say your not a troll. But you also say you want trt but you don't know what your T level is and you don't really give a fuck? I find it hard to believe people actually think like this, this is why I thought you were trolling. You see my point? Phone Post

Well if my t-level is low, i'll take trt if it's cheap and there's no bad side effects. If it's normal, and i can get a doc to prescribe, i'll take trt if it's cheap and there's no bad side effects. If it's high, and i can get a doc to prescribe, i'll take trt if it's cheap and there's no side effects. So my cost benefit analysis of doing this doesn't depend on my testosterone levels.
1/31/13 5:17 PM
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The Adversary - Check out the Joey Diaz podcast, Church of What's Happening Now ep.#44 with Dr. Frank Bredice, a hormone specialist out of Santa Monica. Lot of info straight from a doctor in that podcast. Get it in itunes or here:

http://ec.libsyn.com/p/1/2/e/12e141acd1adaceb/1.9.13.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d01cd8e31d6cb5a0f9c&c_id=5300851

Thanks!

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