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1/31/13 11:44 AM
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RedFox3
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Hey guys, I need some help with a school project and you're the smartest people I know.

The project is to analyze 6 women from history, pop culture and pretty much any other medium you can think of, who have been Top Girls despite facing oppression. 2 have to have resisted oppression, 2 have to have emulated the oppressor, and 2 have to have conceded to the oppressor. I just need 1 each for emulated and conceded.

Any ideas you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Phone Post
1/31/13 2:37 PM
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BigWilliam
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Well as I am reading Game of Thrones now Daenerys Targaryen. Daughter of exiled royalty, abused by her brother, sold to a warrior horse lord she in exchange for horsemen she rises up to become his queen and then forges her own path after his death as a strong leader in her own right.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daenerys_Targaryen
1/31/13 2:42 PM
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RedFox3
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Ok, would you say she emulated or conceded? Phone Post
1/31/13 3:01 PM
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BigWilliam
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She definitely adopted the ways of the Dothraki but then also went beyond them. Emulated I guess.
1/31/13 4:16 PM
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Yeah that's a good one. Phone Post
1/31/13 8:15 PM
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Xena Warrior Princess.

Betty Boop.

Princess Peach.

Samus.

Legolas.

 

1/31/13 9:45 PM
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Xena Warrior Princess.

Betty Boop.

Princess Peach.

Samus.

Legolas.

 


Could you provide your reasoning for each of them?
1/31/13 10:27 PM
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Buffy is constantly being oppressed from having sex with everyone because some people are dead, but she doesn't really give a fuck and bangs them anyways.

Xena is a lesbian but still wants to bang Hercules and her lesbian friend is like, NAH BETCH.

Betty Boop is being chased by wolves.

Princess Peach is constantly being kidnapped by monkeys and turtles and needs a fat Italian guido plumber to save her.

Samus is oppressed because everyone assumes she's a man.

Legolas is a chick that many people assume is a man as well, which is even weirder cause she doesn't even wear a helmet.

1/31/13 10:56 PM
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Lol so hard at the Legolas one! Phone Post
2/1/13 3:41 AM
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Suffragettes Phone Post
2/1/13 10:23 AM
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Queen Elizabeth the first. Long and short of it watch the Cate Blanchett movies but theres a reason shes regarded as one of the greatest monarchs in history.


Boudica warrior female from the dark ages kicked some serious arse.

Ronda Rousey first female champion in ufc history and its ongoing. Phone Post
2/1/13 10:55 AM
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BigWilliam
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How and when was rhonda opressed? If anything Gina Carano would be a better candidate for being the first well known female MMA fighter, the first featured on national television, the first to headline a major event.
2/1/13 11:10 AM
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Womens MMA in general being oppressed I mean I agree about Corano but then the UFC opened a whole division for all women because of Ronda not Gina and the UFC is the biggest and most mainstream company in our sport. Phone Post
2/1/13 11:26 AM
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The only reason Dana decided to bring in women's MMA is because of the success Carano had with EliteXC. rhonda is getting the benefits of the ground work laid by REAL pioneers of the sport like Debi Purcel and the later large scale success of Carano. rousey has been given an opportunity, she did not create it.
2/1/13 11:59 AM
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Rhonda is the first good female MMA fighter.

Gina is the Anna Kournikova of MMA.

2/1/13 12:04 PM
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BigWilliam
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Which has nothing to do with a woman rising above oppression.
2/1/13 12:15 PM
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I agree to an extent but i dont believe women would have a division in the UFC at all if it werent for Ronda. It would have happened with Gina if it was ever going too. Im not taking away what they did they too fought oppression but Ronda's made it mainstream. The difference between local and national news almost. Phone Post
2/1/13 12:19 PM
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CBS is not national? Gina had a fight, in the main event, on CBS, one of the four major national networks.

It does not get more major exposure than that. Far more people saw that fight than will see rhonda's debut UFC fight.

The point remains, rhonda has not had to fight oppression. she is successful on the road paved by others.
2/1/13 12:49 PM
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No one was watching Gina Carano's MMA career. No one cared if she won or not, no one took her MMA career seriously. People liked to watch her titties bounce around.

Ronda is fairly attractive, yes, which helps, but she's also the best female MMA fighter. People are genuinely interested in watching her kick butt.

2/1/13 12:53 PM
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I am not debating that rhonda is a better fighter. Just saying that she did not overcome oppression as stated in the original question. Women's MMA had already been proven as a viable money maker.
2/1/13 1:09 PM
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Titties have been proven to be a viable money maker.

Do you think anyone gave a fuck about javelinering or do you think they wanted to see Leryn Franco?

Ronda makes people genuinely interested in female MMA, not just because she's a big titty quasi-celebrity.

2/1/13 1:11 PM
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Not buying that at all. she plays the sex game as much or more than anyone else.

And you still have not said how she was oppressed. That is the question.
2/1/13 1:35 PM
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I only watch Ronda cost she's hot Phone Post

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