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1/31/13 4:19 PM
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Who would be next in line? Is there anyone out there in the top of the HW division on a good win streak(more than 2 wins in a row)? The only guys that come to mind are Struve(4 fight win streak) and Hunt(3 fight win streak). That's besides Cormier who won't fight Cain. Who would you want to see fight for the HW title if Alistair loses?
1/31/13 4:22 PM
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That is a damn good question. I would say Roy Nelson has a good win streak going for him. Dunno if he is tied up, what about Winner big Nog and Werdum? I am pretty sure they are fighting. I almost remember hearing Dana say that Werdum would get a shot with a win over Nog.
1/31/13 4:22 PM
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It will probably be the Hunt vs Struve winner. Phone Post
1/31/13 4:25 PM
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nolabrum - That is a damn good question. I would say Roy Nelson has a good win streak going for him. Dunno if he is tied up, what about Winner big Nog and Werdum? I am pretty sure they are fighting. I almost remember hearing Dana say that Werdum would get a shot with a win over Nog.
Roy Nelson is on a 2 fight win streak of Herman and Mitrione. Not as good (a win streak) as Struve or Hunt right now. Although Werduum is the next best option it will be a while before he can fight for a title with tuf and Nog. Phone Post
1/31/13 4:26 PM
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nolabrum - That is a damn good question. I would say Roy Nelson has a good win streak going for him. Dunno if he is tied up, what about Winner big Nog and Werdum? I am pretty sure they are fighting. I almost remember hearing Dana say that Werdum would get a shot with a win over Nog.

Roy Nelson has only had two wins since his loss to Werdum, he's got Kongo for 159. Werdum has also just won two since losing to Overeem but I think you are correct about Dana's comment. I think I heard him say that on some media scrum.
1/31/13 4:29 PM
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Yeah I remember something about Werdum being next if he wins. I don't see him, Hunt or Struve beating Cain any time soon though. Phone Post
1/31/13 4:29 PM
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If werdum bests big nog convincingly I'd have to say he's the most deserving. Phone Post
1/31/13 4:31 PM
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This is completely hypothetical since it's not possible. Phone Post
1/31/13 4:31 PM
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I like Struve a lot, he has always exciting fights, but I don't consider him a top contender. Same for Hunt. Only Cormier or Werdum makes sense.
1/31/13 4:31 PM
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hankatron -  Yeah I remember something about Werdum being next if he wins. I don't see him, Hunt or Struve beating Cain any time soon though. Phone Post

I think you are absolutely correct. I wish it will be Hunt if it comes down to those three for I find him the most entertaining although Struve has proven to be much of an entertainer himself with his agressive submissions.
1/31/13 4:32 PM
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nolabrum - That is a damn good question. I would say Roy Nelson has a good win streak going for him. Dunno if he is tied up, what about Winner big Nog and Werdum? I am pretty sure they are fighting. I almost remember hearing Dana say that Werdum would get a shot with a win over Nog.

Roy Nelson has only had two wins since his loss to Werdum, he's got Kongo for 159. Werdum has also just won two since losing to Overeem but I think you are correct about Dana's comment. I think I heard him say that on some media scrum.

Gotcha so most likely Werdum. It would also be crazy to see somebody like Struve get the shot. Dude has some losses but he pretty much just shuts his mouth and gets back in the gym and starts putting W's unders his name. I think that guy can be a force if he keeps doing what he does. Hunt does the same. He went from UFC trying to cut him to making a comeback. Pretty much there are a few options if Overeem gets taken out. UFC HW division is getting good. When does Carwin come back? Hopefully he comes back meaner and nastier then he was before
1/31/13 4:35 PM
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Pat Giles -  This is completely hypothetical since it's not possible. Phone Post

Well anything can happen in the cage but the chances of Overeem losing are very slim as Bigfoot is kind of being thrown to the wolves, but he has huge fists, some stand up skills and blackbelt jiu jitsu
1/31/13 4:36 PM
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Guys Werduum is getting a title shot with a win regardless of what happens with Reem. The problem is he isn't fighting until July, and Cain probably wants to fight before September. Phone Post
1/31/13 4:39 PM
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nolabrum - That is a damn good question. I would say Roy Nelson has a good win streak going for him. Dunno if he is tied up, what about Winner big Nog and Werdum? I am pretty sure they are fighting. I almost remember hearing Dana say that Werdum would get a shot with a win over Nog.

Roy Nelson has only had two wins since his loss to Werdum, he's got Kongo for 159. Werdum has also just won two since losing to Overeem but I think you are correct about Dana's comment. I think I heard him say that on some media scrum.

Gotcha so most likely Werdum. It would also be crazy to see somebody like Struve get the shot. Dude has some losses but he pretty much just shuts his mouth and gets back in the gym and starts putting W's unders his name. I think that guy can be a force if he keeps doing what he does. Hunt does the same. He went from UFC trying to cut him to making a comeback. Pretty much there are a few options if Overeem gets taken out. UFC HW division is getting good. When does Carwin come back? Hopefully he comes back meaner and nastier then he was before

I agree with you 100 percent. Struve needs to improve on his stand up in my opinion since most of his losses are by knockout. I don't know when Carwin is back but he has had alot of issues with his back I believe. Hope to see him again better then ever though, wish him a good recovery.
1/31/13 4:42 PM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Guys Werduum is getting a title shot with a win regardless of what happens with Reem. The problem is he isn't fighting until July, and Cain probably wants to fight before September. Phone Post

Yes, the timing on that seems unfortunate. I would assume Reems fight was set on this time to match exactly for Cains return. Werdum has just won two since losing to Reem while Reem hasn't lost since 2007 and is on ca 8 fight win streak. I think it depends on how Reem looks Saturday night. He can probably get that title shot by looking good on Saturday.
1/31/13 4:44 PM
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Josh motherfuckin Barnett Phone Post
1/31/13 5:20 PM
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DiazsBongWater -  Josh motherfuckin Barnett Phone Post

I so hope he goes to the UFC! I'd love to see him against Frank Mir or Overeem as the three of them are in my opinion the arrogant, overly confident type while remaining polite and not getting very emotional. Catch vs jitz, Barnett vs Mir. Make it happen ufc! (After Mir fights Cormier of course).
1/31/13 5:43 PM
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Pat Giles -  This is completely hypothetical since it's not possible. Phone Post

Well anything can happen in the cage but the chances of Overeem losing are very slim as Bigfoot is kind of being thrown to the wolves, but he has huge fists, some stand up skills and blackbelt jiu jitsu
Bigfoot has the advantage in heart imo. He can pull it off. Phone Post
1/31/13 5:58 PM
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I think Dana would sell some excuse for a immediate rematch with JDS. Phone Post
1/31/13 5:59 PM
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Won't happen. Phone Post
1/31/13 6:07 PM
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1/31/13 6:10 PM
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GROUNDnLB - I think Dana would sell some excuse for a immediate rematch with JDS. Phone Post
This is definitely possible. I also don't see why any top 4 contender should be fighting Mir. Phone Post
1/31/13 6:18 PM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Guys Werduum is getting a title shot with a win regardless of what happens with Reem. The problem is he isn't fighting until July, and Cain probably wants to fight before September. Phone Post

Yes, the timing on that seems unfortunate. I would assume Reems fight was set on this time to match exactly for Cains return. Werdum has just won two since losing to Reem while Reem hasn't lost since 2007 and is on ca 8 fight win streak. I think it depends on how Reem looks Saturday night. He can probably get that title shot by looking good on Saturday.
Even if Reem looks horrible and wins he will get the title shot. Not instead of Werdum, just before him. The UFC got unlucky that Browne and Miocic both lost, the contenders at heavyweight are pretty thin. Phone Post
1/31/13 6:43 PM
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Lol imagine hunt getting a ufc title shot in 2013 haha who woulda guessed Phone Post
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<blockquote>OnlyTheStrongSurvive - <blockquote>innibinni - <blockquote>OnlyTheStrongSurvive - 

Guys Werduum is getting a title shot with a win regardless of what happens with Reem. The problem is he isn't fighting until July, and Cain probably wants to fight before September. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


</blockquote><br /> Yes, the timing on that seems unfortunate. I would assume Reems fight was set on this time to match exactly for Cains return. Werdum has just won two since losing to Reem while Reem hasn't lost since 2007 and is on ca 8 fight win streak. I think it depends on how Reem looks Saturday night. He can probably get that title shot by looking good on Saturday.</blockquote>

Even if Reem looks horrible and wins he will get the title shot. Not instead of Werdum, just before him. The UFC got unlucky that Browne and Miocic both lost, the contenders at heavyweight are pretty thin. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


</blockquote><br /> Ah, I catch your meaning now and would have to agree. Although Reem vs Cain would be a difficult fight to sell if Reem don't look good as he hasn't fought in over a year and they are always trying to sell fights to the casual fan and new fans who might not have seen Reem before. So we'll see how things go after tomorrow night.

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