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Above: "A real legit Krav Maga guy will rip off your Bjj blue belts balls and feed them to him for breakfast, lunch, and then when digested, for dinner to."
Nah.

The "secret" to ground fighting is whoever controls the positions, wins.

The only one doing any effective striking, groin grabbing and biting in a ground fight will be the BJJ guy.

Believe me, most Krav guys are white belt level at BJJ. There is no white belt that is going to prevent getting swept like a bitch and mounted by a blue belt.

You want to see biting and groin grabbing in ground fights? Look at Gracies in action, where a hapkido guy tries to grab Rorion's groin from under his mount. Rorion chokes him in return and that is all. Then look at Ryan's streetfight where he mounts the guy and bites the other guys ear.

Positional control my friend. That's reality. Years of mat time, not Krav or other wishful thinking. Phone Post

Krav guy here. Training BJJ since 94. Most instructors I know are at least blue belt level. Nobody here is going to change your mind and that's ok. Doesn't make you any less wrong though. Good martial artists can keep an open mind and take what they like from each system. Others don't.
3/1/13 10:38 AM
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OCMikelob - No but really cm...I'm just curious bro (and I'm sure you can kick some ass yourself, or whatever) but do u take any other martial with bjj? And is there anything you dislike in bjj or any other of them? Phone Post
In the past I've done TKD, Judo at a competitive level, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (ie Ninjutsu), kickboxing (amateur), Aikido and some FMA. These days I'm old and worn out (mainly from knee injuries from Judo) and do BJJ, and a bit of Thai and FMA when I have the time.

I love them all, even the TKD.

Truth be told there's nothing wrong with Krav either. I have friends who do it. But it is what it is... A hodgepodge of stuff for soldiers to get a fairly complete but basic overview of martial arts, fast and without all the tradition. It will probably get you ready for untrained opponents, but God help you if your opponent is worth his salt, and be aware that if you get knifed (which you will if you streetfight enough) you will never see the blade coming.

If you really want reality, cross train, train "alive", and watch the Dog Brothers' Die Less Often series. Phone Post
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Above: "A real legit Krav Maga guy will rip off your Bjj blue belts balls and feed them to him for breakfast, lunch, and then when digested, for dinner to."
Nah.

The "secret" to ground fighting is whoever controls the positions, wins.

The only one doing any effective striking, groin grabbing and biting in a ground fight will be the BJJ guy.

Believe me, most Krav guys are white belt level at BJJ. There is no white belt that is going to prevent getting swept like a bitch and mounted by a blue belt.

You want to see biting and groin grabbing in ground fights? Look at Gracies in action, where a hapkido guy tries to grab Rorion's groin from under his mount. Rorion chokes him in return and that is all. Then look at Ryan's streetfight where he mounts the guy and bites the other guys ear.

Positional control my friend. That's reality. Years of mat time, not Krav or other wishful thinking. Phone Post

Krav guy here. Training BJJ since 94. Most instructors I know are at least blue belt level. Nobody here is going to change your mind and that's ok. Doesn't make you any less wrong though. Good martial artists can keep an open mind and take what they like from each system. Others don't.
Krav instructors yes. Most Krav students are white belt level. Its the nature of the art... to be a generalist rather than a specialist. Phone Post
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OCMikelob - No but really cm...I'm just curious bro (and I'm sure you can kick some ass yourself, or whatever) but do u take any other martial with bjj? And is there anything you dislike in bjj or any other of them? Phone Post
In the past I've done TKD, Judo at a competitive level, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (ie Ninjutsu), kickboxing (amateur), Aikido and some FMA. These days I'm old and worn out (mainly from knee injuries from Judo) and do BJJ, and a bit of Thai and FMA when I have the time.

I love them all, even the TKD.

Truth be told there's nothing wrong with Krav either. I have friends who do it. But it is what it is... A hodgepodge of stuff for soldiers to get a fairly complete but basic overview of martial arts, fast and without all the tradition. It will probably get you ready for untrained opponents, but God help you if your opponent is worth his salt, and be aware that if you get knifed (which you will if you streetfight enough) you will never see the blade coming.

If you really want reality, cross train, train "alive", and watch the Dog Brothers' Die Less Often series. Phone Post
Die less often looks interesting! Never heard of it before, and I'm gonna check it out. Thanks for the recommendation. Phone Post
3/1/13 11:05 AM
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OCMikelob - No but really cm...I'm just curious bro (and I'm sure you can kick some ass yourself, or whatever) but do u take any other martial with bjj? And is there anything you dislike in bjj or any other of them? Phone Post
In the past I've done TKD, Judo at a competitive level, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (ie Ninjutsu), kickboxing (amateur), Aikido and some FMA. These days I'm old and worn out (mainly from knee injuries from Judo) and do BJJ, and a bit of Thai and FMA when I have the time.

I love them all, even the TKD.

Truth be told there's nothing wrong with Krav either. I have friends who do it. But it is what it is... A hodgepodge of stuff for soldiers to get a fairly complete but basic overview of martial arts, fast and without all the tradition. It will probably get you ready for untrained opponents, but God help you if your opponent is worth his salt, and be aware that if you get knifed (which you will if you streetfight enough) you will never see the blade coming.

If you really want reality, cross train, train "alive", and watch the Dog Brothers' Die Less Often series. Phone Post
Die less often looks interesting! Never heard of it before, and I'm gonna check it out. Thanks for the recommendation. Phone Post

Your opinion on knives seems to assume people only get stabbed once. Luckily, I've never been stabbed, but I have had the opportunity to study a lot of surveilance tape of knife attacks. I assure you, the people see the knife coming. Much of the knife defense in KM is meant to address an ongoing knife attack. I'm always surprised how long knife attacks can go on. Just thought I'd bring up another way to look at things.
3/1/13 11:14 AM
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OCMikelob - No but really cm...I'm just curious bro (and I'm sure you can kick some ass yourself, or whatever) but do u take any other martial with bjj? And is there anything you dislike in bjj or any other of them? Phone Post
In the past I've done TKD, Judo at a competitive level, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (ie Ninjutsu), kickboxing (amateur), Aikido and some FMA. These days I'm old and worn out (mainly from knee injuries from Judo) and do BJJ, and a bit of Thai and FMA when I have the time.

I love them all, even the TKD.

Truth be told there's nothing wrong with Krav either. I have friends who do it. But it is what it is... A hodgepodge of stuff for soldiers to get a fairly complete but basic overview of martial arts, fast and without all the tradition. It will probably get you ready for untrained opponents, but God help you if your opponent is worth his salt, and be aware that if you get knifed (which you will if you streetfight enough) you will never see the blade coming.

If you really want reality, cross train, train "alive", and watch the Dog Brothers' Die Less Often series. Phone Post
Die less often looks interesting! Never heard of it before, and I'm gonna check it out. Thanks for the recommendation. Phone Post
It is a long viewing, but it should be mandatory viewing, especially vol 2 which deals with the reality on the use of guns.

While you're at it, watch the Red Zone Knife Defense video series as well.

If you really want to know about reality, you have to know about weapons and the truth about them. The sad truth is, the knife is the worst weapon to have pulled on you, and it will happen in streetfights, and you will likely not see the blade until you've already been stabbed.

I hope this gives you insight into my stance against "engaging" into fights with multiple assailants (who will usually be armed), and why I'm not a fan of Krav or anything that teaches this. You are not a soldier, and you have a choice to live. Use what you know to disengage and not to win the fight.

Stay well my friend and enjoy the journey! Phone Post
3/1/13 11:20 AM
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OCMikelob - No but really cm...I'm just curious bro (and I'm sure you can kick some ass yourself, or whatever) but do u take any other martial with bjj? And is there anything you dislike in bjj or any other of them? Phone Post
In the past I've done TKD, Judo at a competitive level, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (ie Ninjutsu), kickboxing (amateur), Aikido and some FMA. These days I'm old and worn out (mainly from knee injuries from Judo) and do BJJ, and a bit of Thai and FMA when I have the time.

I love them all, even the TKD.

Truth be told there's nothing wrong with Krav either. I have friends who do it. But it is what it is... A hodgepodge of stuff for soldiers to get a fairly complete but basic overview of martial arts, fast and without all the tradition. It will probably get you ready for untrained opponents, but God help you if your opponent is worth his salt, and be aware that if you get knifed (which you will if you streetfight enough) you will never see the blade coming.

If you really want reality, cross train, train "alive", and watch the Dog Brothers' Die Less Often series. Phone Post
Die less often looks interesting! Never heard of it before, and I'm gonna check it out. Thanks for the recommendation. Phone Post

Your opinion on knives seems to assume people only get stabbed once. Luckily, I've never been stabbed, but I have had the opportunity to study a lot of surveilance tape of knife attacks. I assure you, the people see the knife coming. Much of the knife defense in KM is meant to address an ongoing knife attack. I'm always surprised how long knife attacks can go on. Just thought I'd bring up another way to look at things.
Well, I have been stabbed (but not with a blade) :)

Most ppl are stabbed repeatedly and the stabbing is done as in a prison style shanking.

And I disagree that most people see the blade coming. They don't. They get stabbed first, think they got punched, then only realize after the initial few stabs. This is based on anecdotes from ppl that have gotten stabbed, and accounts from paramedics and doctors working in ER. Phone Post
3/1/13 11:33 AM
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OCMikelob - No but really cm...I'm just curious bro (and I'm sure you can kick some ass yourself, or whatever) but do u take any other martial with bjj? And is there anything you dislike in bjj or any other of them? Phone Post
In the past I've done TKD, Judo at a competitive level, Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu (ie Ninjutsu), kickboxing (amateur), Aikido and some FMA. These days I'm old and worn out (mainly from knee injuries from Judo) and do BJJ, and a bit of Thai and FMA when I have the time.

I love them all, even the TKD.

Truth be told there's nothing wrong with Krav either. I have friends who do it. But it is what it is... A hodgepodge of stuff for soldiers to get a fairly complete but basic overview of martial arts, fast and without all the tradition. It will probably get you ready for untrained opponents, but God help you if your opponent is worth his salt, and be aware that if you get knifed (which you will if you streetfight enough) you will never see the blade coming.

If you really want reality, cross train, train "alive", and watch the Dog Brothers' Die Less Often series. Phone Post
Die less often looks interesting! Never heard of it before, and I'm gonna check it out. Thanks for the recommendation. Phone Post

Your opinion on knives seems to assume people only get stabbed once. Luckily, I've never been stabbed, but I have had the opportunity to study a lot of surveilance tape of knife attacks. I assure you, the people see the knife coming. Much of the knife defense in KM is meant to address an ongoing knife attack. I'm always surprised how long knife attacks can go on. Just thought I'd bring up another way to look at things.
Well, I have been stabbed (but not with a blade) :)

Most ppl are stabbed repeatedly and the stabbing is done as in a prison style shanking.

And I disagree that most people see the blade coming. They don't. They get stabbed first, think they got punched, then only realize after the initial few stabs. This is based on anecdotes from ppl that have gotten stabbed, and accounts from paramedics and doctors working in ER. Phone Post

Many times the attacks continue after the victim realizes they were stabbed. What you said is completely correct and totally goes along with the basis for correctly taught KM knife defense. Any good instructor I've ever worked with basically says what you just wrote. Like I said before, a good instructor is key. Sadly, there are a lot of bad instructors out there.
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OCMikeLob,

I'm a Judo black belt myself and from my experience I know I have the ability to subdue an average joe if he is unarmed and not with his buddies.

I also once faced a guy with a knife, at that time I was lucky because he just wanted to get away after threatening me with the weapon. If I had further proceeded, I'm sure I would have been stabbed.

The reality is that you cannot do much in any situation unless you are prepared for it. I wasn't prepared for the knife situation, so the guy was able to get away.

Since I'm originally from Japan, I would like to show you some clips---how Japanese police officers train for ugly situations.

Note that they never train in eye gouging, groin kicks, or knife fighting, because their goal is to catch criminals unharmed.

Japanese police officers typically train in Judo, Kendo and Taiho-Jutsu(taiho means "to arrest"). Since Kendo and Judo are well-known, I would like you to see some videos of taihojutsu.

These clips might look like jokes, but these guys are dead serious. Those are real officers(Be careful not to fall into wannabe guys who "teach" real fights. You have to watch the real deal). And they hold those tournaments with armed attackers in mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8jjsJV0Dw
("taihojutsu"-karate+aikido+judo+kendo+boxing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILiHFUuEiTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2swQgUibBMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZwynbVo6Wc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rNVTwb_kIg&NR=1&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ury8QAVjM

As you can see, those officers are never satisfied with being one-dimensional.

These officers sometimes do have to capture knife-weilding guys. It is not uncommon at all. Do they rely on just one skill-set? No, they choose whatever is appropriate for the situation. Most officers use batons in confrontations involving knives, and if need be, they fire a gun. But they are told to aim at the assailant's leg.

I once saw a news clip where one officer showed a beautiful kick to knock out a kitchen knife from the arm of a lunatic holding a woman hostage. He and his buddies distracted the guy for a second, and the officer just took advantage of the opportunity.

Those guys use Judo, Kendo, Taiho-Jutsu plus skills aquired throught reality-based drills, batons, guns, intelligence and backups. If those guys rely on just one skillset, their survival rate will go down.

Sorry I know very little about Krav Maga. I agree with some guys here that it teaches you proper mindset for real fights because they have been around for a while. However, I seriously doubt that you can successfuly defend yourself with your bare hands from a man armed with a knife. With that said, I don't believe, from my experience, one grappling art will prepare you well for the street, either.

I just had to jump in because this is a subject I'm interested in. Sorry for FRAT.
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factchecker - OCMikeLob,

I'm a Judo black belt myself and from my experience I know I have the ability to subdue an average joe if he is unarmed and not with his buddies.

I also once faced a guy with a knife, at that time I was lucky because he just wanted to get away after threatening me with the weapon. If I had further proceeded, I'm sure I would have been stabbed.

The reality is that you cannot do much in any situation unless you are prepared for it. I wasn't prepared for the knife situation, so the guy was able to get away.

Since I'm originally from Japan, I would like to show you some clips---how Japanese police officers train for ugly situations.

Note that they never train in eye gouging, groin kicks, or knife fighting, because their goal is to catch criminals unharmed.

Japanese police officers typically train in Judo, Kendo and Taiho-Jutsu(taiho means "to arrest"). Since Kendo and Judo are well-known, I would like you to see some videos of taihojutsu.

These clips might look like jokes, but these guys are dead serious. Those are real officers(Be careful not to fall into wannabe guys who "teach" real fights. You have to watch the real deal). And they hold those tournaments with armed attackers in mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8jjsJV0Dw
("taihojutsu"-karate+aikido+judo+kendo+boxing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILiHFUuEiTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2swQgUibBMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZwynbVo6Wc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rNVTwb_kIg&NR=1&feature=endscreen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ury8QAVjM

As you can see, those officers are never satisfied with being one-dimensional.

These officers sometimes do have to capture knife-weilding guys. It is not uncommon at all. Do they rely on just one skill-set? No, they choose whatever is appropriate for the situation. Most officers use batons in confrontations involving knives, and if need be, they fire a gun. But they are told to aim at the assailant's leg.

I once saw a news clip where one officer showed a beautiful kick to knock out a kitchen knife from the arm of a lunatic holding a woman hostage. He and his buddies distracted the guy for a second, and the officer just took advantage of the opportunity.

Those guys use Judo, Kendo, Taiho-Jutsu plus skills aquired throught reality-based drills, batons, guns, intelligence and backups. If those guys rely on just one skillset, their survival rate will go down.

Sorry I know very little about Krav Maga. I agree with some guys here that it teaches you proper mindset for real fights because they have been around for a while. However, I seriously doubt that you can successfuly defend yourself with your bare hands from a man armed with a knife. With that said, I don't believe, from my experience, one grappling art will prepare you well for the street, either.

I just had to jump in because this is a subject I'm interested in. Sorry for FRAT.
Great post. My thoughts exactly. Phone Post
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I'm no expert, but I know that the first and foremost defense taught in Krav Maga, for every situation, by any instructor worth his salt, is running away.

If running away is not an option, the system contains techniques that might help. When you're backed into a corner, a technique that might help is much better than no technique at all.

Anyone who gains a false sense of security from learning and drilling techniques is a fool, regardless of style. There are foolish students, foolish teachers, and outright frauds in every system. Phone Post
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Growing up in the ghetto Nike defense was there but if you have no choice go down fighting.YES I DO TEACH NIKE DEFENSE! PEACE
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Large Intestine -  I'm no expert, but I know that the first and foremost defense taught in Krav Maga, for every situation, by any instructor worth his salt, is running away.

If running away is not an option, the system contains techniques that might help. When you're backed into a corner, a technique that might help is much better than no technique at all.

Anyone who gains a false sense of security from learning and drilling techniques is a fool, regardless of style. There are foolish students, foolish teachers, and outright frauds in every system. Phone Post

Right on all points. Especially the last one.
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Large Intestine - I'm no expert, but I know that the first and foremost defense taught in Krav Maga, for every situation, by any instructor worth his salt, is running away.

If running away is not an option, the system contains techniques that might help. When you're backed into a corner, a technique that might help is much better than no technique at all.

Anyone who gains a false sense of security from learning and drilling techniques is a fool, regardless of style. There are foolish students, foolish teachers, and outright frauds in every system. Phone Post
I agree... But for what its worth, all my Krav friends talk about how easy it is to maim multiple armed attackers with their bare hands. You can even see it on this thread... clowns talking about "engaging" and feeding grapplers their balls etc... TMA style language only by another name.

On the other hand, my BJJ and Muay Thai buddies are legit badasses but avoid trouble and carry guns.

Its the nature of the beast... Even if a few bandmates are sane, they will attract a certain audience with what they sell. Phone Post
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Its JKD that is being rebranded so someone can make money.
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Yeah I heard a great instuctor by the name of David Lang can teach you Krav Maga as well as how to become an octogon fighter.  I think he got his black belt from several different people one being Whalid Ismael.  Search his name on the UG, there should be a thread or two.....

BTW if you have a horse, his wife might be able to hook you up with a discount.... but dont bring your kids....

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So is JKD really that similar to Krav? Do you participate in JKD Judge? Phone Post 3.0
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Yeah I heard a great instuctor by the name of David Lang can teach you Krav Maga as well as how to become an octogon fighter.  I think he got his black belt from several different people one being Whalid Ismael.  Search his name on the UG, there should be a thread or two.....

BTW if you have a horse, his wife might be able to hook you up with a discount.... but dont bring your kids....

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So is JKD really that similar to Krav? Do you participate in JKD Judge? Phone Post 3.0
I'm no expert in either, but if I understand correctly, both teach practitioners to borrow what works from any system, and discard what doesn't work. Phone Post 3.0
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I'm no expert but humble retiree.I'm a Viet Era Vet,been fighting since growing up in the hood in 60 and 70's.Bruce Lee planted the MMA seed as a kid.I still box,bjj,kickbox and mma and teach KRAV MAGA!KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS
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672 - I'm no expert but humble retiree.I'm a Viet Era Vet,been fighting since growing up in the hood in 60 and 70's.Bruce Lee planted the MMA seed as a kid.I still box,bjj,kickbox and mma and teach KRAV MAGA!KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS
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I teach in Ronkonkoma,NY see bbeltacademy .com. We competed the good fight had 10 compete came in 3rd PL out of 63 teams.I teach my students MMA including karate,tkd,judo wrestling and break/Rock dance. Although we are a KRAV MAGA SCHOOL.LINEAGE I've trained with a lot of bad assess and just a humble student of life.

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