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2/3/13 8:07 AM
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jackthehitmanhinchon
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Carne de cavalo é o melhor - The "Zilian" part is doing fine...
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2/3/13 8:13 AM
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burner22 -  Whoever was in charge of coming up with a gameplan for rashad against lil nog should be sacked ASAP. What in gods name was he doing Phone Post

Agreed, I think reem could have a little better game plan too...lol
2/3/13 8:51 AM
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2/3/13 8:55 AM
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burner22 - Whoever was in charge of coming up with a gameplan for rashad against lil nog should be sacked ASAP. What in gods name was he doing Phone Post
Yeah it was so weird. Phone Post
2/3/13 9:02 AM
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Everyone in the Blackzilians think that they are amazing strikers because they train with K1 strikers now. Knew Lil Nog would get the better of Hashad.
2/3/13 12:28 PM
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Worst hype to success ratio in history
2/3/13 12:33 PM
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Give it a little time, but if nobody has any success soon, it really is time to rethink the camp.

2/3/13 1:46 PM
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NorthFromHere - Worst hype to success ratio in history

This.

 

Melvin was close to a title fight or #1 contender fight, loses.

Rashad jon jones/loseos

Rashad/Lil Nog loses

Bigfoot leaves, Overeem comes/loses

 

 

Am I forgetting anyone?

2/3/13 1:57 PM
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Stea1th -

I TRAIN CHRISTMAS SON

 

 

 

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2/3/13 2:15 PM
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NorthFromHere - Worst hype to success ratio in history

This.

 

Melvin was close to a title fight or #1 contender fight, loses.

Rashad jon jones/loseos

Rashad/Lil Nog loses

Bigfoot leaves, Overeem comes/loses

 

 

Am I forgetting anyone?


GZ and Santiago
2/3/13 2:26 PM
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D241 - 
NorthFromHere - Worst hype to success ratio in history

This.

 

Melvin was close to a title fight or #1 contender fight, loses.

Rashad jon jones/loseos

Rashad/Lil Nog loses

Bigfoot leaves, Overeem comes/loses

 

 

Am I forgetting anyone?


GZ and Santiago

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2/3/13 2:26 PM
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2/3/13 2:26 PM
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Thiago Silva?
2/3/13 2:26 PM
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Miguel Torres!
2/3/13 2:27 PM
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They still have Abel Trujillo

2/3/13 3:04 PM
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Harlem -  Lot of arm chairing in here. How many camps are immediately effective in their first year or so?

It took Jackson forever to start churning out a tried and true method.

The fight game is not overnight success. Neither is training or building a team. Phone Post

The difference is that the camp started out with top tier fighters. Was built with millionaire talent which has only declined since forming the camp.
2/3/13 4:09 PM
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Harlem -  Lot of arm chairing in here. How many camps are immediately effective in their first year or so?

It took Jackson forever to start churning out a tried and true method.

The fight game is not overnight success. Neither is training or building a team. Phone Post

Santiago, Cavalcante and Villefort bros left ATT two years ago and then Blackzilians was established.
2/3/13 4:16 PM
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They still have Abel Trujillo


And they still have Michael Joh...wait.

It's only a matter of time before we Abel follow in their footsteps with a loss.

2/3/13 4:22 PM
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Been saying this for ever now. It is not money that makes a team successful. there are many poor gyms that create top notch athletes. Blackzillions attitude of poaching fighters from other teams offering them $, has actually ruined a number of athletes careers. It is unethical and wrong. You do not build a team by rounding up a bunch of names and throwing them in a gym together, thinking that now you will have a winning team. Does not work like that. Takes experience, takes leadership, takes determination, takes love and camaraderie, takes an understanding of the sport that the owner of the Blackzillions team simply does not have! At this team, its all about " Benjamins" as one member told me some time ago, and about ego! Those things do not win fights!
2/3/13 4:29 PM
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2/3/13 4:31 PM
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jackthehitmanhinchon -
Carne de cavalo é o melhor - The "Zilian" part is doing fine...
L O fucking L Phone Post
Hahaha Phone Post
2/3/13 4:31 PM
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Overseer got owned by BCE -
TheVileOne - It was an odd performance by Rashad Evans.
It was a bad performance. That is not the Rashad that once fought inside that cage.

Ever since Lyoto KOd him he hasn't been the same fighter. Phone Post
Agreed, didn't look right. Phone Post

pre lyoto ...

- lost first two and a half rounds to forrest before catching kick

- lost first round to chuck where he stood and did nothing similar to portions of the lil nog fight.

- barely got by bisping (thought bisping deserved that one iirc)

- barely draws tito with point deduction

- sean salmon not worth touching on but lambert was nicely regarded at the time and rashad mounted and pounded him out with the quickness

- was outgrappled by the alaskan troll and bonnar but got the decisions anyways.

- brad imes and pre tuf.


Not seeing this amazing fighter that isnt the same post lyoto. rashad is a way better fighter now a days. The Rashad who fought bisping would have no shot against the phil davis he put a clinic on a couple fight ago.
2/3/13 4:32 PM
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TheMessiah - I believe Rashad owns a percentage of the gym, this might be why he doesn't leave. Maybe he should change up training camps for fights Phone Post
He won't leave, that gym has made him so much money. Phone Post
2/3/13 4:38 PM
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i suspect guys will be jumping ship left and right... the problem is Glenn Robinson (the guy behind it) has alot of money and is taking care of these guys alot.

Rashad needs to go back to greg jacksons and move down to 185.


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