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2/3/13 2:05 PM
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Andy Rigg
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ha ha haa! quality. all it needs now is shit nu-metal playing and it's like 'being john malkovic'
2/3/13 2:09 PM
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Can someone please tell Dana to take the sand out of his vag.
2/3/13 2:10 PM
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MMA Needs a Powerful number 2 organizations for competition to grow and evolve. With what happened with Eddie and if this is true I hope we get get another organization to become that 2. Dana should match Bellators offer with Rampage and have him do Super Fights or talk to him about going to 185. We Need another Scott Coker to keep things clean Phone Post
2/3/13 2:11 PM
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pennviachoke -  He might not be handling it right, but I can't fault Randy for wanting to try and be a crucial part of Bellator. Huge opportunity for him, especially if Bellator gets big like teh UFC. Phone Post

Bellator won't get big like the UFC. They could become a great cable TV promotion, but they won't sell PPV's the way the UFC does. 

 

If Bellator was smarter, less arrogant, they would position themselves as the NCAA of MMA. No one has a firm foothold in that market space. 

They should create contracts that allows the UFC to make active bids on their talent, which Bellator gets a cut of, and exposure of their brand when that fighter competes for the UFC. 

They could make more money working with the UFC instead of against them but that's not going to happen. 

I agree, Bellator won't get to UFC type status. I like ur idea but it would take alot of pride swallowing by Bjorn to do that, & I don't think he would do that. Phone Post

Bjorn will do whatever Viacom / SPIKE tells him to do. 

Maybe, he's pretty stubborn though. Did he give up alot of control to Viacom/spike? Phone Post

I'm sure he does the match-making and the day to day operations, but my point is that Viacom is running things now. They are making the business decisions on where to spend money and how to position Bellator. 

 

This is just my speculation, but all this advertising is not coming from Bellator, it's from Viacom. 

2/3/13 2:22 PM
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Agreed, I really do like ur idea of Bellator feeding fighters to the UFC, if done right it could work out. Phone Post
2/3/13 2:45 PM
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More diarrhea spilling from the mouth of the guy who never fought.


I have always wondered, which fighter that Dana badmouths is going to be the one that is going to knock his ass out? Which guy is going to be the guy that says, "I've had enough of this guy who doesn't fight questioning the manhood of fighters and constantly running his mouth like he can't be touched?"


I guess we might have found the answer. Better pony up for some extra security tough guy.

2/3/13 2:48 PM
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This is a guy who learnd he could be KO'd twice in one weightclass and have his next fight for the title in a higher one. Or that he could take off with the HW title to do a fight in a rival promotion, then come back if/when it didn't work out and still be givn the royal treatment. Or he could get away with things that would have gotten other zuffa fighters perma fired at the time like signing away likeness rights to EA.

To some extent, Dana/Zuffa probably have themselves to thank for the whole "I'm Randy Couture and I can do whatever the fuck I want" attitude.

And while loyalty is always an admirable trait, I can't blame Randy for doing whatever he wants to do, because he can and it's always worked out fine for him before. Why be Randy Couture if you're not gonna take advantage of it I guess?
2/3/13 2:56 PM
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That's nice, Dana. Phone Post
2/3/13 3:08 PM
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Dana seems like a real straight shooter when it comes to loyalty (although he should calm down with Tito).

Randy is about to make the worst decision of his life.

 


I still think the beef between Tito and Dana is all a work.

Could be. It certainy keeps us talking, and changes almost daily.

2/3/13 4:20 PM
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Neil Funk - More diarrhea spilling from the mouth of the guy who never fought.


I have always wondered, which fighter that Dana badmouths is going to be the one that is going to knock his ass out? Which guy is going to be the guy that says, "I've had enough of this guy who doesn't fight questioning the manhood of fighters and constantly running his mouth like he can't be touched?"


I guess we might have found the answer. Better pony up for some extra security tough guy.


Well to be honest, he's not saying Randy is a women and can't fight. I agree with Dana, if you don't have the balls to call your boss and tell him you're not coming to work, if you have to get your liar, I mean lawyer to do it....that's a bitch move. If your boss calls you, and you dodge his call because you're obviously afraid of the ensuing confrontation...that's a bitch move. If you then proceed to answer your bosses multiple missed calls with a text....that's a bitch move. If you then proceed to tell him you'll talk later, but never reaching out to honor your word(delaying the confrontation) that's a bitch move.

All in all Dana isn't exactly overreacting or exaggerating the point. He even said Randy's a man in the cage, but his actions outside, aren't exactly actions in sync with being a, well, man.
2/3/13 4:44 PM
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This is why this sport will never be major league.

Because the figurehead talks like a gangster.

Yeah, figurehead.

The Ferrittas own the lion's share of the UFC.

Dana is a MINORITY owner.

He is the Jack Tunney of 1987 WWF to Lorenzo's Vinny Mac.

Having your figurehead shit on guys who made this sport like Ken, Randy and Tito is more damning than signing a Bellator contract.

Hey, Eddie Alvarez?

You wanna be in the UFC because you think they respect you?

You're a piece of meat kid and your first loss gets you gone and the first time you have an opinion gets you on blast.

Dana White operates like a bull in a china shop.

He shits on "nerds" who but product and he shits on fighters who made that product palatable in the ages when no one gave a damn about the UFC.

Bush league.

This is why you'll never sit at the table with the NFL.

Ever hear anyone from the NFL shit on Brett Favre?

Ray Lewis?

Ben Roethlisberger?

Yeah.

Professionalism.

Exhibit some.

Worry about that instead of this phony "be a man" bullshit. Phone Post
2/3/13 4:48 PM
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If Dana White ran the NFL, Ray Lewis would be a "murderer" today instead of getting a hero's farewell that draws money.

There is a reason he runs the UFC.

His childhood buddies bought it.

Cronyism.

A man earns his spot rather than begging his rich buddies to buy a company and let him run it.

Right?

Yeah, I guess that's not the case with Dana.

I can't wait until Ronda loses so he can melt down like $kala.

Randy Couture paid for my hotel room for a weekend when my credit card didn't go through once.

I guess he isn't a man if a man means being like Dana.

This is bush league bullshit and infuriating.

Keep it behind closed doors like a man instead of hitting up the bully pulpit like something else. Phone Post
2/3/13 4:52 PM
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Sorry for my long winded rants.

It's just one guy fought in some of the best fight/events I ever watched and paid my hotel stay with his own money.

Fucking Randy Couture didn't have to do that.

I couldn't offer him anything but a thank you.

I respect the guy who did something for a guy who could offer him nothing rather than the man who calls me a "nerd" or worse because I don't like the fights he is putting together.

I apologize to all here for my tone and FRAT indeed, I'm not confrontational at all but this is just awful to do for someone who helped TUF get off the ground and many an event in the days when the company wasn't exactly in SI. Phone Post
2/3/13 4:59 PM
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Randy should have used the bellator offer to leverage a similar or better deal with the UFC... this was a bad move.  bellashit will likely be gone in 3 years whereas zuffa is around for a very long time.

2/3/13 5:04 PM
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When will a fighter give Dana a severe ass whooping? It's bound to happen someday, right?
2/3/13 6:41 PM
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JeffersonDArcyChoke -  This is why this sport will never be major league.

Because the figurehead talks like a gangster.

Yeah, figurehead.

The Ferrittas own the lion's share of the UFC.

Dana is a MINORITY owner.

He is the Jack Tunney of 1987 WWF to Lorenzo's Vinny Mac.

Having your figurehead shit on guys who made this sport like Ken, Randy and Tito is more damning than signing a Bellator contract.

Hey, Eddie Alvarez?

You wanna be in the UFC because you think they respect you?

You're a piece of meat kid and your first loss gets you gone and the first time you have an opinion gets you on blast.

Dana White operates like a bull in a china shop.

He shits on "nerds" who but product and he shits on fighters who made that product palatable in the ages when no one gave a damn about the UFC.

Bush league.

This is why you'll never sit at the table with the NFL.

Ever hear anyone from the NFL shit on Brett Favre?

Ray Lewis?

Ben Roethlisberger?

Yeah.

Professionalism.

Exhibit some.

Worry about that instead of this phony "be a man" bullshit. Phone Post

"Holy anal diameter Batman!!"

2/4/13 1:24 PM
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Randy helping a rival promotion will be good for the sport of MMA in the long run. In a couple years Bellator will be bought by Zuffa and Randy will be brought back into the fold.
2/4/13 1:36 PM
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Randy should have used the bellator offer to leverage a similar or better deal with the UFC... this was a bad move.  bellashit will likely be gone in 3 years whereas zuffa is around for a very long time.


Randy has a history of being a maverick and listening to bad advice. I 100% agree with you, he has terrible business sense and I believe the people he surrounds himself with are looking more for the short term buck.



It's a shame, but he might be destined to be the next Ken Shamrock.

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