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2/4/13 11:24 AM
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HELWIG
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Yes, Im aware that "Im mad, bro" and the world's smallest violin is playing just for me. Thanks. Go check out the "Lesnar/Overeem 2!?" thread, more up your speed.

Ive been a big Maia fan from day one. My friends and I would joke that the guy's he was creaming were BJJ black belts and you might actually be better of not being one since he knows all your shit better than you do.

But I really didnt like his tactic of "suckershooting" on Fitch. It spoiled the dynamic of the whole fight and left Fitch totally out of gas for the next 2 rounds.

If you want to shoot immediately, dont initiate a glove touch. Its equally as shitty as sticking your hand out and throwing a punch when the guy responds.

I hate all glove touching period. Its laughable in my opinion to be playing grabass during a live round of a professional fight.

But this gray area really needs to go. I wanted to see this awesome matchup playout on neutral grounds and instead, one deceitful move by Maia set the entire fight on a different course that it didnt return from.

Amazing back control from Maia and defense from Fitch.

2/4/13 11:27 AM
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i guess i didnt even know this happened.  

2/4/13 11:29 AM
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You you're saying that without that occurring Maia wouldn't have dominated Fitch? After watching the fight, Id have to disagree. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:29 AM
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I thought he gave enough time between touching gloves and shooting. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:31 AM
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2/4/13 11:31 AM
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Worst post ever. Suckershoot? What fight were you watching. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:33 AM
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fool me twice
2/4/13 11:35 AM
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2/4/13 11:36 AM
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he touched gloves and then shot. what do you want? A warm embrace?

2/4/13 11:38 AM
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danggook - Worst post ever. Suckershoot? What fight were you watching. Phone Post
He's right though. I said the same thing when I watched it.

P.S. Stop with the touching of gloves already! Save it for after the fight. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:40 AM
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Butter, 'cuz I'm on a roll!

I was more disappointed with how many times Fitch grabbed the fence.

2/4/13 11:40 AM
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DOMINANTDAN#1FAN - You you're saying that without that occurring Maia wouldn't have dominated Fitch? After watching the fight, Id have to disagree. Phone Post
I don't think that's what he's saying, he feels it was unsportsmanlike and he's bummed one of his favorite fighters would be cheap.

I thought it was quick but not unsportsmanlike. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:44 AM
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Crooklyn -

I was more disappointed with how many times Fitch grabbed the fence.

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2/4/13 11:44 AM
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if i could quote posts on my computer, i would have quoted this one:

"i was more disapointed by how many times fitch grabbed the fence"

i figured a point would be taken away for sure

2/4/13 11:44 AM
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Dr Doom - Not sure if he initiated that.

The way he ran across the cage, Fitch should have abandoned the glove touch. Clear what his intention was.

If Maia had a history of being a cheat we could be angry, but he doesn't so I wouldn't judge him for this.
This Maia just went after him Phone Post
2/4/13 11:45 AM
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didnt bj penn start his fight with fitch the EXACT same way?

*EDIT*

he touched gloves, then gave fitch 2 seconds and fitch was backing up the whole time.

(just watched)

2/4/13 11:46 AM
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If it was such a big deal I wonder why Fitch touched gloves again the next two rounds Phone Post
2/4/13 11:50 AM
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I dont think it had any affect on the outcome.... maybe it was borderline... but Fitch had to know something was up the way Maia was coming at him.... 

2/4/13 11:53 AM
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2/4/13 11:53 AM
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instituting the glove touch during ref instructions and coming out of the corner fighting would stop any questions on glove touching

the worst are mid-round glove touches for a good exchange

2/4/13 11:56 AM
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DOMINANTDAN#1FAN - You you're saying that without that occurring Maia wouldn't have dominated Fitch? After watching the fight, Id have to disagree. Phone Post
I don't think that's what he's saying, he feels it was unsportsmanlike and he's bummed one of his favorite fighters would be cheap.

I thought it was quick but not unsportsmanlike. Phone Post
I was picking up on him saying that one thing started the fight on a path it never returned from. Imo that's where it was going and Fitch was powerless to stop it regardless. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:56 AM
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i got the feeling watching it that Maia wanted to go right in for the takedown and then fitch put the glove out to touch which Maia didn't seem quite ready for but went for the touch out of respect then went for the quick takedown he intended all along...could be wrong or remembering wrong. just seemed awkward

2/4/13 11:58 AM
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Crooklyn -

I was more disappointed with how many times Fitch grabbed the fence.

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They should stop the fight and give the fighter attempting the td the option to restart the fight in guard.

I don't think anyone deserves to lose a fight because they grab the fence IE getting a point taken, but I don't think it should be allowed either. Phone Post
2/4/13 12:02 PM
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It wasn't Colton Smith status...
It's not Maia's job to make sure Fitch is ready for the attack and prepared to defend. He didn't fake the the touch and change levels for a TD.

He came out of the gate quick and touched at the same time because Fitch put his hand out. Fitch was bracing himself the second he saw Maia coming at him. It's not like Maia/Fitch motioned to touch in advance, if he had a gameplan to come out hard and fast, that's his prerogative and Fitch should be prepared for that gameplan.
2/4/13 12:03 PM
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Stop crying about the fence grabbing it did nothing to effect the outcome of the fight.

Dry humping from behind effected the outcome of the fight.

If this guys is such a BJJ master why couldn't he submit him? Does Fitch carry a high ranking black belt that i didn't know about?

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