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2/4/13 11:17 PM
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Paradiso
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I don't like when athletes make up stats, like 90% of people take steroids and only 10% are clean if they aren't willing to name names.

 

The stat maybe true, but don't make up statistics if you are not willing to back them up with names.

2/4/13 11:20 PM
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Well said. Would read again. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:26 PM
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Chris Power
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The idea of purity in MMA is a bit overblown - is it better everybody just takes supplements that attempt to replicate the effects of steroids than just do the real thing?

I guess people just want their cheaters to have to work for it?
2/4/13 11:28 PM
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McCorkle on a gear enhanced rant IMO....
2/4/13 11:30 PM
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Sean McCorkle - 
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Sean McCorkle - Do any of you actually believe that 90% of athletes in all professional sports are clean, and 10% that are juicing are the bad apples spoiling the bunch?

The ratio is probably quite the opposite.

I always wonder how athletes come up with these numbers. Not that I doubt you, but I'm curious what influences you to believe that the number is that high? Is it from what you see around your gym? Are fighters approaching other fighters with this stuff at events? What is it?


If 9 out of 10 pro athletes I know admit to me that they take or have taken steroids before, I assume that it's probably the same with everyone else.

If we accept your estimation, it's much easier to assume that you're part of the 90% than the 10%.
2/4/13 11:30 PM
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Have you ever smoked Antler Spray? Massive gains bro Phone Post
2/4/13 11:31 PM
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Well said Phone Post
2/4/13 11:35 PM
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This thread honestly leaves me feeling like Sean has used steroids in his career. Phone Post
2/4/13 11:37 PM
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Fighting a guy on steroids must be like Kevin James trying to fuck a pornstar all night

2/4/13 11:37 PM
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Possibly the greatest thing I've ever read on the internet.
2/4/13 11:40 PM
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2/4/13 11:43 PM
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Constantly chasing your tail is the worst scenario, that just make the richer athletes able to pursue the cutting egde.

2/4/13 11:43 PM
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2/4/13 11:43 PM
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Best post ever by OP! Let's all get geared up! But just to the High end- Phone Post
2/4/13 11:50 PM
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If youre against roids you should also be against supliments, vitamins and protein shakes..... . Id like someone to explain why theyre against its use.
2/4/13 11:52 PM
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I appreciate it when any of the professional fighters on this site share first-hand-personal-experience with the masses.

Without being crucified or doubted a thousand ways from Sunday.

Maybe that's just me?

Tim Silvia, Sherk, Reem, Bigfoot Silva, Sonnen, Barnett, Shields, Marquart, blah, blah, blah. I bet most of you can name more than me.

Not to mention the entire HammerHouse.




Sean McCorkle, thanks for the frank and open statement. I'm really not surprised and don't think your position is without merit.

Would legalizing (some or all) PED's allow pro-athletes to be better monitored by a physician, get cleaner Rx product, and therefore stay healthier?

2/4/13 11:56 PM
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McCorckle must not have kids or give a rat's ass about the future generations. He apparently only thinks of himself and the HERE and NOW aspect of life. And he's totally juicing.

2/4/13 11:58 PM
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^ 90% of those guys were on steroids...

2/4/13 11:59 PM
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2/5/13 12:00 AM
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^ 90% of those guys were on steroids...


LOL

and cocaine and excess alcohol and a crazy life ... whats your point? and 100% of them were on steroids
2/5/13 12:02 AM
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You may be right, but all but one of those randomly tested in 2012 came back clean.

I am not saying that many are not cheating, but 90% seems unlikely when Cain, JDS, Bigfoot, Nelson, Carwin and Mir all tested clean. Random tests can't be planned for.
2/5/13 12:05 AM
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Sean McCorkle -
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So you know this for a fact when you say "All of your Olympic athletes do too"? Because I can guarantee you that is false. So with this generalization your saying since you are a professional fighter, your on some banned substance as well or your just the only one who is not?


Ok, the guy who ski's and shoot a gun probably doesn't. The vast majority though do.
Actually the guys who shoot were taking beta-blockers to slow their heart rates down... Better accuracy...

Bottom line, everyone who wants to be the best in the world at anything will always look for an advantage if it's possible Phone Post
2/5/13 12:08 AM
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If done right and I mean under a physician's watchful eye, there are benefits to PED's. You have to take this stuff out of the gym rats hands. I wonder how many of the 90% get their stuff from a doctor and how many get them from some dirtbag who made them in his basement, or got them from suspicious sources.

If the right ones were allowed, the ones that have little to no serious health detriments, taking PED's can be beneficial to these athlete's.
2/5/13 12:11 AM
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Lynchman - You may be right, but all but one of those randomly tested in 2012 came back clean.

I am not saying that many are not cheating, but 90% seems unlikely when Cain, JDS, Bigfoot, Nelson, Carwin and Mir all tested clean. Random tests can't be planned for.

I remember Victor Conte implying that is how most boxers get away with doping. Just because they tested clean doesn't mean they didn't use a few months before the test was administered. According to Vic the Rat, athlete's who dope and cutoff before a certain date actually retain the benefits for a period of time, usually well into their training camps and I would estimate into the fight itself.
2/5/13 12:11 AM
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I think I am the only person that cares if fighters are on steroids or not. And not because of any moral objection, but because this IS a sport about a level playing field. If the rules say both fighters can be on steroids if they want (IE Japan...), then by all means juice yourself up and I wish you the best. If the rules say you both get chainsaws, I don't care as long as you BOTH get chainsaws. What bothers me is when one guy gets really competitive on his own talent and hard work, and the other gets really good at cycling.

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