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2/6/13 6:17 AM
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Letibleu
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Kos is fighting Lawlor in 2 weeks. Should he win (which most people expect him to) Maia would be a great fight. In my opinion it would be the hardest test for Maia and a quick road to a title shot. A win for Kos and he might grace the top 5 rankings again.

All the other fighters that would seem interested are tied up much further down the line with fights that will dramatically alter the WW landscape.

What other matchups with available fighters would be interesting for Maia?

2/6/13 6:18 AM
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Maia vs Manhoef. Phone Post
2/6/13 6:22 AM
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wrong weight class and Manhoef isnt in the UFC

2/6/13 6:22 AM
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Rabid Bunyip - Maia vs Manhoef. Phone Post
Worst possible fight for Manhoef in my opinion.

Should keep him away from top BJJ guys and wrestlers for his first couple of fights. Phone Post
2/6/13 6:23 AM
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wrong weight class and Manhoef isnt in the UFC

He's joining the ufc and his manager said he's fighting at 170 lol. Phone Post
2/6/13 6:26 AM
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Letibleu -

wrong weight class and Manhoef isnt in the UFC

He's joining the ufc and his manager said he's fighting at 170 lol. Phone Post

 

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2/6/13 6:29 AM
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In what way is Kos a better fighter than Fitch?

Maia, and it's not even close.
2/6/13 6:32 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa. Manhoef is joining the UFC and fighting at 170??!

Is there a thread on this?

As for the topic at hand, Kos has easily the 2nd best TDD at WW behind GSP. That makes this probably the hardest fight for Maia outside of GSP, and maybe Rory (we still have no idea how good Rory's TDD is).

I'd take Maia over all the WW wrestlers except Kos and GSP, although Ellenberger and Hendricks would be tough fights.
2/6/13 6:37 AM
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joe canada - In what way is Kos a better fighter than Fitch?

Maia, and it's not even close.

Fitch's MMA TDD is pretty mediocre (and I've said this even before the Penn fight). Kos has excellent TDD - in their 2nd fight even GSP couldn't control him.

You can argue Fitch is more consistent, but Kos is for sure a harder fight for Maia.
2/6/13 6:38 AM
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His manager said he was joining thr UFC.

 

From what I heard they asked for way too much money (for a one dimentional fighter) and talks broke off. He is in talks with Glory. I bet he ends up with Bellator.

2/6/13 6:39 AM
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joe canada - In what way is Kos a better fighter than Fitch?

Maia, and it's not even close.

Fitch's MMA TDD is pretty mediocre (and I've said this even before the Penn fight). Kos has excellent TDD - in their 2nd fight even GSP couldn't control him.

You can argue Fitch is more consistent, but Kos is for sure a harder fight for Maia.

Kos can box and his TDD is very good. Kos is in my opinion the perfect litmus test to see if he is ready for a contender fight. A win for Kos is also very benificial. Both fighters would gain a lot with a win.

2/6/13 8:18 AM
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wrong weight class and Manhoef isnt in the UFC

Ok Phone Post
2/6/13 8:51 AM
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joe canada - In what way is Kos a better fighter than Fitch?

Maia, and it's not even close.

Um....in every concievable way? Bigger, faster, stronger, better boxer, better wrestler, harder hitter, better TDs, better TDD, better chin, better submissions..... He's literally superior in every aspect. Maia wouldnt have a chance in hell. He'd get marquardt'd....again.
2/6/13 11:41 AM
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joe canada - In what way is Kos a better fighter than Fitch?

Maia, and it's not even close.

Fitch's MMA TDD is pretty mediocre (and I've said this even before the Penn fight). Kos has excellent TDD - in their 2nd fight even GSP couldn't control him.

You can argue Fitch is more consistent, but Kos is for sure a harder fight for Maia.

You actually make good points.

Will concede that Kos is quicker on the sprawl than Fitch. An excellent point.

Maia has to worry about Fitch's stand-up more than Kos', but Kos' quickness would make Maia's long-step "Bustamante" takedown harder.

To counter this, I'd say that of the two it would be less risky to come into clinch range with Kos than with Fitch, as Fitch is the better striker. Which would make the clinch-to trip takedown of Maia's harder to hit.

Nevertheless, I stand corrected. Given the style matchup, Kos might be a worse match for Maia than Fitch, even though I consider Fitch the far superior fighter.
2/6/13 11:48 AM
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Rhys91 -
Rabid Bunyip - Maia vs Manhoef. Phone Post
Worst possible fight for Manhoef in my opinion.

Should keep him away from top BJJ guys and wrestlers for his first couple of fights. Phone Post
This. Also I like Manhoef but really doubt he gets a top ranked opponent like Maia right away. Phone Post
2/6/13 11:58 AM
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joe canada - In what way is Kos a better fighter than Fitch?

Maia, and it's not even close.

Fitch's MMA TDD is pretty mediocre (and I've said this even before the Penn fight). Kos has excellent TDD - in their 2nd fight even GSP couldn't control him.

You can argue Fitch is more consistent, but Kos is for sure a harder fight for Maia.

You actually make good points.

Will concede that Kos is quicker on the sprawl than Fitch. An excellent point.

Maia has to worry about Fitch's stand-up more than Kos', but Kos' quickness would make Maia's long-step "Bustamante" takedown harder.

To counter this, I'd say that of the two it would be less risky to come into clinch range with Kos than with Fitch, as Fitch is the better striker. Which would make the clinch-to trip takedown of Maia's harder to hit.

Nevertheless, I stand corrected. Given the style matchup, Kos might be a worse match for Maia than Fitch, even though I consider Fitch the far superior fighter.

You think Fitch has better stand-up than Kos? Kos hits harder and is a lot faster than Fitch. Although you might think Fitch is more technical, in a pure stand-up fight Kos wins that fight 9/10. He doesn't have to worry about getting KO'd by Fitch, he does with Kos.
2/6/13 12:11 PM
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2/6/13 2:00 PM
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good matchup. i like maia but i think he'd have a tough time taking kos down, i'd take koscheck unanimous dec.
2/6/13 2:06 PM
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Kos' standup is too one-dimensional and predictable. I also doubt Maia would get KOed, it would look a lot like the Fitch fight except Maia would have to work a little harder for the TDs and if/when he gets Kos in position he could sub him.
2/6/13 2:41 PM
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Rabid Bunyip -  Maia vs Manhoef. Phone Post

Maia wins 9/10 times. Bad match making....
2/6/13 2:44 PM
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Maia will have a highly competitive fight against everyone in the division excluding GSP, where he will have little chance.

Still, i would love to see him vs Koscheck, Ellenberger, Hendricks and Shields. I think he smokes all the non-wrestlers with ease....
2/6/13 2:50 PM
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DaemonDragon - Whoa whoa whoa. Manhoef is joining the UFC and fighting at 170??!

Is there a thread on this?

As for the topic at hand, Kos has easily the 2nd best TDD at WW behind GSP. That makes this probably the hardest fight for Maia outside of GSP, and maybe Rory (we still have no idea how good Rory's TDD is).

I'd take Maia over all the WW wrestlers except Kos and GSP, although Ellenberger and Hendricks would be tough fights.

vote up. those are most of my thoughts

Kos probably wouldn't want to take him down either, so what we get is a mediocre kickboxing match. Kos has looked pretty one-dimensional on that end, and I could see Maia taking a decision if it came to that.

2/6/13 5:21 PM
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condit makes sense since he is basically #2 at 170 now if hendricks hasanother commitment


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