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2/6/13 12:41 PM
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"I never understood what the fascination is with putting a number next to someone's name. I did this my entire tenure of college with girls I dated and I can assure you it never ended well. First and foremost, when people judge (other) people it's never fair. You got a bunch a media guys who really don't know a ton about the sport and every time you say that they take it as a huge insult but the reality is they don't.

They go into a press conference with one thing, they hear the boss Dana White say something, they change their rankings on the spot so they can get into that big steak dinner the UFC hands out with the press conference. Let's make sure we understand how they came to be."

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2/6/13 12:46 PM
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They go into a press conference with one thing, they hear the boss Dana White say something, they change their rankings on the spot so they can get into that big steak dinner the UFC hands out with the press conference. Let's make sure we understand how they came to be.


Describes a lot of MMA fans as well, minus the steak dinner. Chael makes a lot of sense when he's not playing the heel.
2/6/13 12:53 PM
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They go into a press conference with one thing, they hear the boss Dana White say something, they change their rankings on the spot so they can get into that big steak dinner the UFC hands out with the press conference. Let's make sure we understand how they came to be.


Describes a lot of MMA fans as well, minus the steak dinner. Chael makes a lot of sense when he's not playing the heel.
Chael is a dick he doesn't deserve the shot but he's catapulted MMA in a good direction for that I respect him.. I still now jones will anialate him and he's not in top 5 M/W or LHW but he does his job great which is elevate our sport MMA..... Phone Post
2/6/13 12:54 PM
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They really aren't official rankings, more like official ratings. Rankings are based of factual data like wins and losses. These are opinions which are also based off potential and skill level which is subjective. Phone Post
2/6/13 1:03 PM
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"You got a bunch a media guys who really don't know a ton about the sport and every time you say that they take it as a huge insult but the reality is they don't."

I would say this is true to some extent. But I see plenty of names on the media panel that train BJJ, Muy Thai, and several that also have competed in MMA. Pretty tough to say that those guys don't know the sport.

Are there plenty of media members who really don't know the sport? Sure there are, but I think the number of people they got ensure they have enough people who know what the f they are talking about and know the sport of MMA inside and out.

2/6/13 1:04 PM
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An actual rank system would be too complicated to introduce, and could even make divisions more stale than they already are. While I don't agree with every call made by the UFC, they do make some interesting fights, and that's what most people want to see
2/6/13 1:06 PM
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Notice how Chael is not in the lists LOL. Phone Post
2/6/13 1:08 PM
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Mr. Sonnen said "entire tenure of college," not "entire 10 years of college"

Kind of a big difference!

2/6/13 1:11 PM
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Mr. Sonnen said "entire tenure of college," not "entire 10 years of college"

Kind of a big difference!

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2/6/13 1:12 PM
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Mr. Sonnen said "entire tenure of college," not "entire 10 years of college"

Kind of a big difference!


Nice catch. Read through it and didnt even think about it.
2/6/13 1:12 PM
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Mr. Sonnen said "entire tenure of college," not "entire 10 years of college"

Kind of a big difference!

nah only like 6 years Phone Post
2/6/13 1:13 PM
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Mr. Sonnen said "entire tenure of college," not "entire 10 years of college"

Kind of a big difference!


haha, thanks Keith. fixed!

2/6/13 1:14 PM
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Mr. Sonnen said "entire tenure of college," not "entire 10 years of college"

Kind of a big difference!

Haha nice catch Keith Phone Post
2/6/13 1:14 PM
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2/6/13 1:22 PM
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"You got a bunch a media guys who really don't know a ton about the sport and every time you say that they take it as a huge insult but the reality is they don't."

I would say this is true to some extent. But I see plenty of names on the media panel that train BJJ, Muy Thai, and several that also have competed in MMA. Pretty tough to say that those guys don't know the sport.

Are there plenty of media members who really don't know the sport? Sure there are, but I think the number of people they got ensure they have enough people who know what the f they are talking about and know the sport of MMA inside and out.


I don't even think you have to train to know the sport tbh, maybe some more technical aspects, but in terms of top 10 rankings it's not really relevant.

IMO a lot of guys went in trying to make the rankings they thought the UFC would like, and that's why you get gil at #2 and other things they mentioned.

A lot of the media guys may not even be big fans though, you can tell just by hearing some questions that they just do the job and don't really follow the sport very closely.

2/6/13 1:31 PM
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Sonnen loves him some steak.

How many times has he brought it up?

I remember he said a few things during the Anderson saga.

Now I want steak.
2/6/13 1:38 PM
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I expected more from the UFC rankings, they are basically just a popularity contest, for example why on earth is Shane Carwin still ranked?  He hasnt fought in more than a year and a half and he hasn't won a fight in almost 3 years.

 

On top of Franklin McNeil has a say in the rankings, thats just embarassing.

2/6/13 2:09 PM
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I expected more from the UFC rankings, they are basically just a popularity contest, for example why on earth is Shane Carwin still ranked?  He hasnt fought in more than a year and a half and he hasn't won a fight in almost 3 years.

 

On top of Franklin McNeil has a say in the rankings, thats just embarassing.


Have you seen the size of Carwin's hands?

WELL HAVE YOU?!?!
2/6/13 2:13 PM
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I expected more from the UFC rankings, they are basically just a popularity contest, for example why on earth is Shane Carwin still ranked?  He hasnt fought in more than a year and a half and he hasn't won a fight in almost 3 years.

 

On top of Franklin McNeil has a say in the rankings, thats just embarassing.


Have you seen the size of Carwin's hands?

WELL HAVE YOU?!?!
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2/6/13 2:14 PM
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"You got a bunch a media guys who really don't know a ton about the sport and every time you say that they take it as a huge insult but the reality is they don't."

I would say this is true to some extent. But I see plenty of names on the media panel that train BJJ, Muy Thai, and several that also have competed in MMA. Pretty tough to say that those guys don't know the sport.

Are there plenty of media members who really don't know the sport? Sure there are, but I think the number of people they got ensure they have enough people who know what the f they are talking about and know the sport of MMA inside and out.


I don't even think you have to train to know the sport tbh, maybe some more technical aspects, but in terms of top 10 rankings it's not really relevant.

IMO a lot of guys went in trying to make the rankings they thought the UFC would like, and that's why you get gil at #2 and other things they mentioned.

A lot of the media guys may not even be big fans though, you can tell just by hearing some questions that they just do the job and don't really follow the sport very closely.

True words my friend!!! Phone Post
2/6/13 2:21 PM
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TryhardNobody - I can see why he has that opinion. I believe he has 2 title shots without being #1 contender.

he still would easily be the #1 contender in MW
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TryhardNobody - I can see why he has that opinion. I believe he has 2 title shots without being #1 contender.

he still would easily be the #1 contender in MW
Can't pic him making M/W healthily... Big risk to him fight wise and health wise IMO... Phone Post
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Chael has always hated rankings. He always thought the very idea of rankings is subjective so no matter who is doing them it doesn't matter. Ask 10 mma experest for a top 10 list & you'll get 10 different top 10 lists.

He might be right. *shrugs*

2/6/13 2:30 PM
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I love Ariel like a brother from another mother, but Oh My God this one and only Chael P. Sonnen!

 

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'Sonnen blasts everything, praises himself' should just be stickied at this point. Phone Post

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