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2/27/13 4:34 PM
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donfro - ufc NEEDS to be on sky (sky sports in particular) if they want to be big in UK.

90% of people have sky -- it has ALL the big sports and ALL the channels all bundled into packages.

NO ONE has ESPN, SETANTA or will have BT.

UFC needs EYEBALLS in the uk.
Lol Sky have 15 million I think someone said, freeview was at 60 million a few years ago probably have more since the switch over, I don't see how Sky have 90% of the UK. Phone Post
2/28/13 11:05 AM
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On Sky's own website it states it has 10,742,00 tv customers . This is accurate as of the 30th of June 2012.
I wonder how many actual pay the extra for the sports package .
Reading else were on the web it's saying sky hold about 40 percent viewership in the UK . Phone Post
2/28/13 11:34 AM
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Gary Cook CEO EMEA @UFC #UFC "Sky have dominated. BT Vision have around 15 million homes, and have moved into the marketplace"


I thought Gary was all over the UK market.... Where the fuck does he get those figures from?! A quick google turns up the wiki stating "As of December 2012, it had an estimated 771,000 subscribers."

Now unless they've suddenly got a fucktonne of customers in the last 3 months, I'm calling bullshit. I think that's 15m customers as in BT customers... not vision customers. No one except that bunch of student tossers on the advert use BT Vision, it's a stream that relies on your internet connection.
Get off the crack pipe Cook, this is a REALLY bad move for the UFC. When we spoke to Dana about this, he said the UK market was 7 years behind, he was very excited about a TV deal move in the UK, but honestly - BT Vision has been around for about 7 years now and it's no better now than it was then. I wouldn't say this was sideways, I'd say this is a step back.

Fuurther googling as I type this has also turned up:
"BT has continued its expansion into sports broadcasting, acquiring ESPN'S UK and Ireland TV channels business in a deal understood to be worth in the "low tens of millions"."
Probably the best news yet. Hopefully they'll stay on Sky and offer a better deal, woven into the Sky sports packages by default.
2/28/13 1:19 PM
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xAdRockx - Gary Cook CEO EMEA @UFC #UFC "Sky have dominated. BT Vision have around 15 million homes, and have moved into the marketplace"


I thought Gary was all over the UK market.... Where the fuck does he get those figures from?! A quick google turns up the wiki stating "As of December 2012, it had an estimated 771,000 subscribers."

Now unless they've suddenly got a fucktonne of customers in the last 3 months, I'm calling bullshit. I think that's 15m customers as in BT customers... not vision customers. No one except that bunch of student tossers on the advert use BT Vision, it's a stream that relies on your internet connection.
Get off the crack pipe Cook, this is a REALLY bad move for the UFC. When we spoke to Dana about this, he said the UK market was 7 years behind, he was very excited about a TV deal move in the UK, but honestly - BT Vision has been around for about 7 years now and it's no better now than it was then. I wouldn't say this was sideways, I'd say this is a step back.

Fuurther googling as I type this has also turned up:
"BT has continued its expansion into sports broadcasting, acquiring ESPN'S UK and Ireland TV channels business in a deal understood to be worth in the "low tens of millions"."
Probably the best news yet. Hopefully they'll stay on Sky and offer a better deal, woven into the Sky sports packages by default.
Amen brother! Keep preaching, spot on with everything you say. Phone Post
2/28/13 6:38 PM
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xAdRockx - Gary Cook CEO EMEA @UFC #UFC "Sky have dominated. BT Vision have around 15 million homes, and have moved into the marketplace"


I thought Gary was all over the UK market.... Where the fuck does he get those figures from?! A quick google turns up the wiki stating "As of December 2012, it had an estimated 771,000 subscribers."

Now unless they've suddenly got a fucktonne of customers in the last 3 months, I'm calling bullshit. I think that's 15m customers as in BT customers... not vision customers. No one except that bunch of student tossers on the advert use BT Vision, it's a stream that relies on your internet connection.
Get off the crack pipe Cook, this is a REALLY bad move for the UFC. When we spoke to Dana about this, he said the UK market was 7 years behind, he was very excited about a TV deal move in the UK, but honestly - BT Vision has been around for about 7 years now and it's no better now than it was then. I wouldn't say this was sideways, I'd say this is a step back.

Fuurther googling as I type this has also turned up:
"BT has continued its expansion into sports broadcasting, acquiring ESPN'S UK and Ireland TV channels business in a deal understood to be worth in the "low tens of millions"."
Probably the best news yet. Hopefully they'll stay on Sky and offer a better deal, woven into the Sky sports packages by default.
Amen brother! Keep preaching, spot on with everything you say. Phone Post

 

AR Good post mate. The 15 million is just BT phone customers not BT vision, I just double checked it's in the video at 14.50 minute mark onwards.

http://aol.it/15gtTxz

3/1/13 10:43 AM
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pidgey - is that BT shit on satellite as well? Phone Post
We don't know. BT have just released info on them buying ESPN but they haven't released info on whether Virgin and Sky are going to be able to show the channel. Phone Post
3/1/13 10:59 AM
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Can we get that BT shite in Ireland?

3/1/13 11:01 AM
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Watch me finger a minor.

bt have a channel? thats news to me  

3/1/13 11:22 AM
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Can we get that BT shite in Ireland?


Prob be available on Sky or Chorus platforms
3/2/13 1:49 AM
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MentaL -

bt have a channel? thats news to me  

If you get freeview then yes. Its likely going to be no different than ESPN, they will just have a different name. Phone Post
3/3/13 5:11 AM
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I'm glad ESPN are disappearing!! My sky plus cut out half way through the hunt fight! Phone Post
3/3/13 6:42 AM
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3/3/13 8:16 AM
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To be fair it seemed the actual main card started 40 mins late hence why the broadcast started awkwardly in the middle of the FB prelims. Not really ESPN's fault.
3/3/13 8:18 AM
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My fucking ESPN cut out just before Wand ko'd Stann. Not happy...
3/3/13 8:30 AM
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Bootsy Collins - To be fair it seemed the actual main card started 40 mins late hence why the broadcast started awkwardly in the middle of the FB prelims. Not really ESPN's fault.

No, that's not it. For some reason ESPN were airing the last hour of the Facebook prelims. You'd think they would just show them all since they can obviously get them on air.

3/3/13 8:36 AM
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Bootsy Collins - To be fair it seemed the actual main card started 40 mins late hence why the broadcast started awkwardly in the middle of the FB prelims. Not really ESPN's fault.

No, that's not it. For some reason ESPN were airing the last hour of the Facebook prelims. You'd think they would just show them all since they can obviously get them on air.


Really? But the broadcast started at 2 am with the prelims so were ESPN showing it on a delay so??
3/3/13 8:54 AM
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I would imagine the new BT sports will be available on sky, virgin, talktalk and through BT themselves. This channel is carrying premiership football, no way they keep that service exclusive. Phone Post
3/3/13 8:55 AM
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And since we are all complaining my sky plus cut off before the main event started. good job the YouTube police hadn't started their shift. Phone Post
3/3/13 9:02 AM
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Recorded the event on sky + and the show on next and still didn't get the whole event nice one ESPN. Phone Post
3/3/13 1:50 PM
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After last night i fucking hope so, the time for sky sports is now, or a ufc channel! Come on Zuffa sort it out Phone Post
3/4/13 8:57 AM
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BigTedBear -  Recorded the event on sky + and the show on next and still didn't get the whole event nice one ESPN. Phone Post

I did exactly the same. I always record the show after and that cut off 2mins before Wand KO'd Stann!

BT Sport getting the UFC would be good for me as I'll probably get the channels as they have the 1st pick of the televised Premier League games last year. BT could actually do well as ESPN and Setanta before them always had the least attractive package of Premier League games.
3/4/13 9:15 AM
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Bootsy Collins - To be fair it seemed the actual main card started 40 mins late hence why the broadcast started awkwardly in the middle of the FB prelims. Not really ESPN's fault.

No, that's not it. For some reason ESPN were airing the last hour of the Facebook prelims. You'd think they would just show them all since they can obviously get them on air.


Really? But the broadcast started at 2 am with the prelims so were ESPN showing it on a delay so??

No, it was live.

 

ESPN started broadcasting at 2am, an hour before the main card started (3am), hence catching the last two prelim fights. To be fair, the main card probably went a bit long which is why it overran.

 

I think UFC 157 also has a 2am start time (with prelims from midnight), which again sounds like they're broadcasting an hour of  the facebook prelims (since the main card actually starts at 3am). Now, this all might just be a mistake on ESPN's part in that they're starting/ending broadcasting an hour earlier than they're supposed to. I've no idea why they'd suddenly change it though. I just assumed on Saturday that they were giving us an extra hour of prelims as a nice bonus.

3/4/13 9:20 AM
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Bootsy Collins - To be fair it seemed the actual main card started 40 mins late hence why the broadcast started awkwardly in the middle of the FB prelims. Not really ESPN's fault.

No, that's not it. For some reason ESPN were airing the last hour of the Facebook prelims. You'd think they would just show them all since they can obviously get them on air.


Really? But the broadcast started at 2 am with the prelims so were ESPN showing it on a delay so??

No, it was live.

 

ESPN started broadcasting at 2am, an hour before the main card started (3am), hence catching the last two prelim fights. To be fair, the main card probably went a bit long which is why it overran.

 

I think UFC 157 also has a 2am start time (with prelims from midnight), which again sounds like they're broadcasting an hour of  the facebook prelims (since the main card actually starts at 3am). Now, this all might just be a mistake on ESPN's part in that they're starting/ending broadcasting an hour earlier than they're supposed to. I've no idea why they'd suddenly change it though. I just assumed on Saturday that they were giving us an extra hour of prelims as a nice bonus.


They usually state on the planner when they're showing prelims but its odd that they didn't this time. I watched the Mizugaki/Caraway and Fukuda/Tavares fights on facebook, if I'd known they were on ESPN, I would have preferred watching them on my HD TV and then set another additional programme to record afterwards to ensure I'd get the full main card, what with the planner being 1 hour behind.

3/4/13 9:29 AM
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Man I wish the UFC was on channel 5
4/3/13 1:26 PM
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Jon Joe any updates from Garry Cook on this today?


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