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Hey guys,

Continuing my farewell tour of Bloody Elbow. The other day we looked briefly at Giorgio Petrosyan, today we look at Roy Jones Jr, perhaps the greatest offensive boxer who ever lived.

Hope you don't mind clicking the link and as always all feedback is welcomed!

Cheers,

Jack

 

Continuing my series of most requested pieces I will be looking today at the great Roy JonesJr. in brief. Just as with my Giorgio Petrosyan piece I will only be giving a brief glimpse into the tactics of a legitimate striking genius and so will be focusing attention on a single video. In one Roy Jones Jr. highlight so many unique and high level strategies for landing strikes can be seen that I could probably write a series of pieces on just this video. When observers watch Roy Jones they seem to believe that they are watching ludicrous speed and natural talent, but the truth is that while those are both present Jones was perhaps the finest offensive strategist boxing has seen yet.

While Jones' counters were exceptional it was his ability to land punches off the bat against an opponent who was ready to defend which made Jones so unique. Where many coaches and pundits, myself included, preach that the jab is the basis of a good offensive game, Jones was known for his relatively low jab output - instead leading with right straights and left hooks or uppercuts. There were numerous ways in which he made these punches safer to throw and quicker to the mark and we'll take a look at a good few today.

Here is the video which we will be working from - take it in and then read on.

Roy Jones Jr. "Perfect Fighter" Highlights by Kimura (via MuayThaiKimura)

Windmill Right Lead

Seen at: 1:58, 2:00.

We are on a tight schedule so we shall dive right in with Jones' pot shotting power punches. Jones' right hand lead attracted a great deal of attention but it was treated as one technique, when in fact it was entirely dictated by the situation as any good boxer's jab is. The most memorable form of right hand lead which Roy Jones used to stun and up stage opponents was his windmill right. Taking his right hand from it's position in front of his right shoulder Jones would circle his arm at the shoulder away from the opponenent, slowly and flamboyantly. When he began his downward swing Jones would speed up his motion and explode straight into the right hand lead.


 

The genius of this technique was the change in tempo. Beginning slowly, once he gets to the downward part of his circle Jones may explode into the right hand lead at any point - whether it be from level with his shoulder behind him, down by his hips, next to his lead thigh or from shoulder level in front of him. With virtually any point in the circle to explode from it is near impossible for the opponent to predict the timing of the blow and he is forced to cover up or eat a blow as he attempts to time it.

As much as Jones' blistering speed made this technique especially effective, I have demonstrated this technique to many strikers from different backgrounds and they have had pretty good success in executing it.

Jones would also begin his circling from a further distance to bait the opponent into moving in to punish him for showboating. At this point he would pop them with a stiff jab from his always ready lead hand.


 

Below he does the same thing against John "The Boring Man" Ruiz. Circling his right arm Jones gets all the way to the bottom of his circle, crouching for effect and jumps up into a hard jab.


 

Sneak Right Lead

Seen at: 1:01, 1:14, Pretty much constantly.

The finer details of Jones' basic right hand lead are worth examining. From distance Jones would almost always throw the right hand lead with his right shoulder almost direct in front of him as he finished so that he was safe from counter jabs, but would always continue to sidestep off to the left. Against southpaws this was perfectly safe, but even against orthodox fighters it was safe at distance - because of Jones' feints and tricks if an opponent was focused on trying to counter the right hand leads he would often simply eat them. Covering against Jones often seemed the best option.

Continues at: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/2/11/3973078/jack-slacks-greatest-strikers-of-roy-jones-jr

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I've been waiting for this, I thought y'all musta forgot.
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Moving away from BE?

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In before somebody says 'well I'd like to see him take a leg kick' or something equally silly.

What an athlete, such a shame to see him getting iced out recently. Phone Post
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Ocean6 - Moving away from BE?

Where to Jack?

Bleacher Report. The pieces will still be the same format though =)

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Great read. What do you think of all the Anderson Silva vs RJJ in a hypothetical kickboxing match talk? Phone Post
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Great read. What do you think of all the Anderson Silva vs RJJ in a hypothetical kickboxing match talk? Phone Post

Kickboxing? Anderson easily by actually having trained in it.

Boxing? Roy Jones easily.

All favoritism aside - Anderson is great at rolling with punches and does it all the time when the opponent punches left right left right. On the few occasions he has had an opponent double up with one hand he has rolled right into the second punch.

Franklin did it once in their second match, Bonnar did it once against the cage and that boxer he sparred with at wild card landed some viscious punches off of a triple right hook combo.

There's a reason boxers can't roll with everything - decent opposition in boxing will vary their combinations. Roy Jones was exceptional at doubling, tripling and even quadrupling up blows. He's a very bad match up for Anderson boxing wise.

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Any decent boxer would crush Anderson in pro boxing.

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Great read Jack

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OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Great read. What do you think of all the Anderson Silva vs RJJ in a hypothetical kickboxing match talk? Phone Post

Kickboxing? Anderson easily by actually having trained in it.

Boxing? Roy Jones easily.

All favoritism aside - Anderson is great at rolling with punches and does it all the time when the opponent punches left right left right. On the few occasions he has had an opponent double up with one hand he has rolled right into the second punch.

Franklin did it once in their second match, Bonnar did it once against the cage and that boxer he sparred with at wild card landed some viscious punches off of a triple right hook combo.

There's a reason boxers can't roll with everything - decent opposition in boxing will vary their combinations. Roy Jones was exceptional at doubling, tripling and even quadrupling up blows. He's a very bad match up for Anderson boxing wise.

Thanks, there seems to be a perception even on the UG that elite boxers would kill top mma kickboxers or even some top k-1 guys in kickboxing and I wanted to get your thoughts. I've seen the same types of thought about guys like Pac and Floyd running through Aldo even if kicks were allowed. Phone Post
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Hey Jack great post as always, if you get a chance I'd really like to get your expertise on a question I posed about neutralizing reach:

 

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2131302

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I still think he's probably the best p4p boxer of all time. It was unreal the things he could do in the ring.
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