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2/15/13 4:31 PM
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No, he's not.  Not even in his weight class, not by far.


5 better strikers at his weight?

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Silva

Belfort

Shlemenko

Le

Belcher


Since you're cutting down Melvin for lossing to Robbie...

Le - KOed by Scott Smith

Schlemenko - Koed by Jordan Radev

Belcher - TKoed by Jason Day.

 

IMO a freak KO loss to Lawler than Melvin was dominating before that, isn't any worse than those.

2/15/13 4:32 PM
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No, he's not.  Not even in his weight class, not by far.


5 better strikers at his weight?

This I'd like to hear........... Phone Post

Silva

Belfort

Shlemenko

Le

Belcher

Melvin beats everyone on that list not named Anderson striking Phone Post

Just like he beat Robbie Lawler (who's not nearly as good a striker as anyone on this list)?

To be fair he was tooling lawler and got over anxious looking for the ko. To say belcher is a better striker than manhoef is madness (and I'm a belcher fan) Phone Post
2/15/13 4:37 PM
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I don't know about dominating or tooling....Robbie threw like one punch the whole fight.

I'll give you that it was a 10-9 round for Melvin up until the punch....

2/15/13 4:50 PM
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I don't know about dominating or tooling....Robbie threw like one punch the whole fight.

I'll give you that it was a 10-9 round for Melvin up until the punch....


Did you watch that fight?

 

2/15/13 4:58 PM
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Robbie walked away from the fight with a sore leg.

His whole gameplane was to wait for an opening and he found it.

He got dominated and tooled but he didn't even drop once?

"Domination" to me is CroCop vs. Wand II or Maynard vs. Frankie round 1 of the latest fight.

That's what I'm comparing the fight to.

2/15/13 5:01 PM
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Robbie walked away from the fight with a sore leg.

His whole gameplane was to wait for an opening and he found it.

He got dominated and tooled but he didn't even drop once?

"Domination" to me is CroCop vs. Wand II or Maynard vs. Frankie round 1 of the latest fight.

That's what I'm comparing the fight to.

I remember Robbie nearly knee himself in the face Melvin kicked his leg so hard. He was getting beat....bad

But tough sob pulled of the KO Phone Post
2/15/13 5:03 PM
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lol

he is nowhere near the level of Anderson Silva
2/15/13 5:12 PM
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I don't know if it's the flu medication or is this thread from the twilight zone? I'll give you Anderson the rest, really? and I thought he's coming in at 170? Dude knocks out people weight classes above him. Alan? Are you friends with belcher to put him on that list? In an Mma fight I think Belcher vitor win overall game. Striking they'd be in for some bombs though. Anderson prob wins eitherway. Le and schlemenko going to sleep for sure. But I thought he's fighting at 170 now? Is he coming in at 185?
2/15/13 5:15 PM
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I don't know about dominating or tooling....Robbie threw like one punch the whole fight.

I'll give you that it was a 10-9 round for Melvin up until the punch....

10-9 is fine, but lawler was getting thoroughly outstruck up until the KO.Manhoef is the better striker but he doesn't have the chin. Phone Post
2/15/13 5:20 PM
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I'd say he's one of the best brawlers in MMA but with his poor defense and weak chin, I wouldn't say he's one of the best strikers in MMA. 

2/15/13 5:22 PM
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I don't know about dominating or tooling....Robbie threw like one punch the whole fight.

I'll give you that it was a 10-9 round for Melvin up until the punch....

10-9 is fine, but lawler was getting thoroughly outstruck up until the KO.Manhoef is the better striker but he doesn't have the chin. Phone Post

Agreed - I'm a pretty big Lawler fan and I was shitting myself while yelling "take him the fuck down!" at my tele.

2/15/13 5:39 PM
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I like to watch Melvin fight,but he is no were near the best striker in the mma.
2/15/13 6:01 PM
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Entreri - lol

he is nowhere near the level of Anderson Silva
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2/15/13 6:02 PM
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Robbie walked away from the fight with a sore leg.

His whole gameplane was to wait for an opening and he found it.

He got dominated and tooled but he didn't even drop once?

"Domination" to me is CroCop vs. Wand II or Maynard vs. Frankie round 1 of the latest fight.

That's what I'm comparing the fight to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnbzLYinwbg

No.... He said after the fight, and in each interview after that the game plan was to take him down. Before the fight he let on that he wanted to bang, but he and Hughes openly admitted the plan was to take him down, not to run and get banged up and try to land a hail mary.

 

2/15/13 8:33 PM
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No, he's not.  Not even in his weight class, not by far.


5 better strikers at his weight?

This I'd like to hear........... Phone Post

Silva

Belfort

Shlemenko

Le

Belcher


He fights at WW now, but we'll go with this list.

MM has 3 TKO/ko losses...  25 KO wins (Some over hard hitting HW's)

Le has 11 fights and he has already been KOed twice, his style is unique, but a better striker than MM? No.

Sclemenko? 2x the fights as MM, and about the same amount of KO wins. But, I can see an arguement here, I don't agree, but I see the arguement.

Belcher? really? Belcher hasn't put away a striker with strikers in 7 years.... TKOed some grapplers, but still.

 

Belfort and Silva... Sure.

 


First, since when is Manhoef a WW?  He just fought Kang at 185.  Not that he would be the best striker at WW either.

So at most, you could say that he is maybe the third best striker at MW?  That's very arguable, and you have to admit it's a far cry from "best striker in MMA".

Had he said "most powerful striker in MMA" that may have had a dose of truth to it especially if we're talking P4P.  But "best striker" he is not.

2/15/13 8:37 PM
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moved to WW according to his manager.

 

Either way, you were downplaying him / cutting him down, I love a good debate so I was countering.

2/15/13 9:28 PM
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2/15/13 9:59 PM
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it was aninteresting fight

rob was eating huge leg kicks all night, looked like he was gettin killed

i think it was a rope-a-dope

then he threw that hook with his head down, blind, and it connected perfectly

hughes later said having no weight on his targeted leg was a defense to the kick

2/15/13 11:52 PM
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2/16/13 12:11 AM
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"Manhoef was destroying him before that. Not just winning or controlling the action, but destroying."

I don't see how you can say he was destroying a guy that he never even managed to drop.

2/16/13 12:36 AM
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How about matching him with mixed martial artists? Or go back to the original purpose of the sport and match him with ground guys.
2/16/13 3:32 AM
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2/16/13 6:18 PM
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Jds boxing is much better Phone Post

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