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2/16/13 2:54 AM
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Source: Jake Shields returns to welterweight, wants Ellenberger, Condit, or MacDonald next

I'm not a fan of Jake, but what happend to him? He was so dominant in Strikeforce, and in the UFC he has looked horrible in just about every fight. He should have remained a MW and never gone down to WW imo

2/16/13 3:03 AM
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He bulked up a lot for his MW fights and then dropped right back down, he was cutting too much weight

He didn't want to fight at 170 the UFC wanted him too
2/16/13 3:03 AM
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He was the same lay and pray fighter in strikeforce, the last person he's subbed was Robbie Lawler in 2009. I'm not hating, he's got a good top control, but one of the most boring fighters in the UFC imo. Phone Post
2/16/13 3:06 AM
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epic hero - He bulked up a lot for his MW fights and then dropped right back down, he was cutting too much weight

He didn't want to fight at 170 the UFC wanted him too
Maybe this, but from what I've seen his style just lends itself to make him look terrible even when he is winning against top guys. Phone Post
2/16/13 3:11 AM
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epic hero - He bulked up a lot for his MW fights and then dropped right back down, he was cutting too much weight

He didn't want to fight at 170 the UFC wanted him too
Maybe this, but from what I've seen his style just lends itself to make him look terrible even when he is winning against top guys. Phone Post

He's not an exciting fighter but he looked really drained at WW that's all I'm saying lol. Weird that he would go back to MW and once again drop down
2/16/13 3:16 AM
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lol@Jake.

wtf has he done lately that warrants a fight with either of those men? Even if they lose their next fights, Jake's still down the ladder.

He beat Akiyama, then failed a post drug test at MW to Herman, so now he wants to drop back to 170? Amazing.

2/16/13 3:17 AM
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In other words, Jake Shields wants to get annihilated.

2/16/13 3:17 AM
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epic hero - He bulked up a lot for his MW fights and then dropped right back down, he was cutting too much weight

He didn't want to fight at 170 the UFC wanted him too
Maybe this, but from what I've seen his style just lends itself to make him look terrible even when he is winning against top guys. Phone Post

He's not an exciting fighter but he looked really drained at WW that's all I'm saying lol. Weird that he would go back to MW and once again drop down
Yeah I know and I'm not sure I disagree. He's a poor man's Okami at this point imo and I think a lot of the big names he beat a few years ago would win the rematches. Phone Post
2/16/13 3:19 AM
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The only cool thing about the akiyama fight was his judo trip, other then that, Jake made mma striking look fucking atrocious as usual. Phone Post
2/16/13 3:22 AM
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lol@Jake.

wtf has he done lately that warrants a fight with either of those men? Even if they lose their next fights, Jake's still down the ladder.

He beat Akiyama, then failed a post drug test at MW to Herman, so now he wants to drop back to 170? Amazing.

He's probably thinking if his buddy can get rewarded with a title shot for losing and and serving a year suspension, surely he can do pretty well after winning and only getting suspended for 6 months. Phone Post
2/16/13 3:24 AM
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lol@Jake.

wtf has he done lately that warrants a fight with either of those men? Even if they lose their next fights, Jake's still down the ladder.

He beat Akiyama, then failed a post drug test at MW to Herman, so now he wants to drop back to 170? Amazing.

He's probably thinking if his buddy can get rewarded with a title shot for losing and and serving a year suspension, surely he can do pretty well after winning and only getting suspended for 6 months. Phone Post

I can understand him wanting a top opponent, because everyone does, but he's not deserving of a fight with either of those men right now.

Have him fight Marquardt.

2/16/13 5:02 AM
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put him against the winner of matt riddle/che mills
2/16/13 5:04 AM
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how the fuck did he ever beat hendo? Phone Post
2/16/13 5:24 AM
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i enjoy his dominant grappling skills.
2/16/13 5:32 AM
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BeatonHauff -  The only cool thing about the akiyama fight was his judo trip, other then that, Jake made mma striking look fucking atrocious as usual. Phone Post

yet he beat sexyama striking.
2/16/13 6:00 AM
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Dmoney35 - how the fuck did he ever beat hendo? Phone Post
This still boggles my mind Phone Post
2/16/13 7:27 AM
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P4p one of the most boring fighters since joining the UFC. Phone Post
2/16/13 10:39 AM
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lol@Jake.

wtf has he done lately that warrants a fight with either of those men? Even if they lose their next fights, Jake's still down the ladder.

He beat Akiyama, then failed a post drug test at MW to Herman, so now he wants to drop back to 170? Amazing.

He's probably thinking if his buddy can get rewarded with a title shot for losing and and serving a year suspension, surely he can do pretty well after winning and only getting suspended for 6 months. Phone Post

I can understand him wanting a top opponent, because everyone does, but he's not deserving of a fight with either of those men right now.

Have him fight Marquardt.

That would be a weird matchup. Hard to call Phone Post
2/16/13 11:03 AM
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2/16/13 11:06 AM
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BeatonHauff -  He was the same lay and pray fighter in strikeforce, the last person he's subbed was Robbie Lawler in 2009. I'm not hating, he's got a good top control, but one of the most boring fighters in the UFC imo. Phone Post

 

He had 8 straight finishes going into the Mayhem fight. Mayhem and Dan were the only guys he didn't finish in SF/EliteXC.

 

Anyway, the problem isn't that he's not finishing in the UFC, it's that he looks completely terrible, no matter if it's 170 or 185. Before coming over he may have been boring (at least in those two decisions), but was also completely dominant. Now he looks like he's struggling in every fight. And it's not like Akiyama and Ed Herman are worldbeaters.

2/16/13 11:08 AM
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I think Maia vs Shields would be very interesting. Kinda a step down for Maia but worth it.
2/16/13 11:08 AM
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Shields vs Maia must happen
2/16/13 11:15 AM
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The only good thing about Shields being on a card..... It gives you time to go take a poop and to refill the rum @ coke before the next fight. Phone Post
2/16/13 11:17 AM
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Shields vs Maia would be nice Phone Post
2/16/13 12:21 PM
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BeatonHauff -  He was the same lay and pray fighter in strikeforce, the last person he's subbed was Robbie Lawler in 2009. I'm not hating, he's got a good top control, but one of the most boring fighters in the UFC imo. Phone Post

 

He had 8 straight finishes going into the Mayhem fight. Mayhem and Dan were the only guys he didn't finish in SF/EliteXC.

 

Anyway, the problem isn't that he's not finishing in the UFC, it's that he looks completely terrible, no matter if it's 170 or 185. Before coming over he may have been boring (at least in those two decisions), but was also completely dominant. Now he looks like he's struggling in every fight. And it's not like Akiyama and Ed Herman are worldbeaters.

He has 6 subs in 7 fights which is impressive, but look at the names in that streak, the best guy being Mike Pyle. The problem is he's facing top well rounded guys, not guys who are predominantly strikers. He gets hate because all he does is lay on people, like I said he's got good top control but has yet to come close to subbing anyone in the UFC. And its saaaaaaad. Phone Post

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