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3/23/13 8:07 AM
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Jedburgh1 - 
IP - Sounds to me like there are quite a few civilian firearms enthusiasts with solid expertise in shooting. Have you guys ever thought about getting together privately and doing a round-robin type instruction/presentation to each other? I have to believe you'd pick up some good stuff, and at the same time save money by not paying for a big name. Obviously you guys are interested in improving your game. This might be a good option.?.

OG Shooter's Improvement Conclave.

If we've got a little land to run and some steel targets, I'm in.

I've got a place up in GA. Picking a time that would work for everyone might be the hard part.

3/23/13 8:28 AM
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Rhymenoceros - <blockquote>Jedburgh1 - Ah my friend, <br /><br />You've confused your terms. The AMU is the Army Marksmanship Unit, of which your assessment is spot on. <br /><br />Those men are from a SMU or special missions unit, which is a horse of a vastly different color. And yet they still find time to be GM class shooters. Truly amazing shooters.</blockquote>

I was kidding, hence the "JK."

I'm aware those guys are/were Delta. I can say that because as a civilian I pay for their ammo or something. And because I don't know shit.

AMU

SMU

3/23/13 8:40 AM
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Sheesh - I was just trying to take a shot at the AMU. I totally get it that one hosts shooting camps for kids and the other shreds bad guys.

I will say, though, some of the AMU guys are fucking monster pistol shooters. Monster sandbaggers, too.
3/23/13 9:45 AM
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tyronehernandez - MNQ is a great drill. 8 inch paper plate makes the perfect target for it.

Also like Kyle Lamb's Zig Zag drill.

You think "Green eyes, black rifle" is worth getting?
Yes I reference that book all the time Phone Post
3/23/13 11:59 AM
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Rhymenoceros - Ron Avery describes the difference between Weaver and Iso pretty well here. He's a fucking incredible shooter btw. Even though he's a little older he's a threat to win even at the highest levels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewbIC2P8Hw

For those on phones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewbIC2P8Hw

 

 

3/23/13 12:01 PM
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IP - Jed - Cycling the M4 via charging handle

Method you favor, please.
 

JG uses the charging handle during speed reloads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

 

^ Interesting barrel design

3/23/13 2:51 PM
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Thanks man, looks very innovative. I will run it up the chain and see if we can pick some up.
3/23/13 3:13 PM
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I think were all missing the boat here. We should all be training with this guy lol.

3/23/13 3:14 PM
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That was brilliant.
3/23/13 3:20 PM
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Well gents, went out to put my money where my mouth is this morning.  

 

Shot the modified navy qual.  Best I can tell by the scoring system, I missed expert by 1 second!  

 

Sequence of events in the video:  Short diatribe by Jed (real short, nobody likes videos with minutes of talking before the action)  walk out prep rifle and sight, set bullshit Surefire app timer, shoot, walk downrange and check out targets.  

3/23/13 3:20 PM
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Range Video  

3/23/13 3:27 PM
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Point of View. From my second interation. Forgot to turn off the guncam on the first.
3/23/13 3:48 PM
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I don't see a video.?.
3/23/13 3:50 PM
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Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg
3/23/13 3:55 PM
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Vids worked for me

3/23/13 3:59 PM
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Jedburgh1 - Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg

I see them both. ISP must be having browser issue.

 

I see you said you reference Lambs "Green Eyes, Black Rifles". Do you by chance have his pistol book? It's called "stay in the fight".

 

The only firearms books I have are Brian Enos' "Practical Shooting", Lambs Carbine book, and Pat Mac's "TAPS".

 

Any other books that are worth picking up?

3/23/13 3:59 PM
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That drill requires supporting gear set up just right. If it wasn't for your loose belt, you had expert easy.
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TheAssMurderer -
Jedburgh1 - Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg

I see them both. ISP must be having browser issue.

 

I see you said you reference Lambs "Green Eyes, Black Rifles". Do you by chance have his pistol book? It's called "stay in the fight".

 

The only firearms books I have are Brian Enos' "Practical Shooting", Lambs Carbine book, and Pat Mac's "TAPS".

 

Any other books that are worth picking up?

Yeah the pistol book is good. Nothing else really sticks out. Someone should do a book of drills Phone Post
3/23/13 4:08 PM
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IP - That drill requires supporting gear set up just right. If it wasn't for your loose belt, you had expert easy.
Yeah the vest normally holds it in place.

Also lolz at 'videotape' some of the younger posters may need an explanation Phone Post
3/23/13 4:22 PM
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Hey, by chance do you know what brand of VFG this is?

I don't really care for the ones that I currently own and this looks like it will fit the way I hold my rifle much better.

 

The only two I can find that look similar are a 100 doller Daniel Defense and a 12 dollar Pro-Mag

 

 

3/23/13 4:25 PM
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Jedburgh1 - Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg

I see them both. ISP must be having browser issue.

 

I see you said you reference Lambs "Green Eyes, Black Rifles". Do you by chance have his pistol book? It's called "stay in the fight".

 

The only firearms books I have are Brian Enos' "Practical Shooting", Lambs Carbine book, and Pat Mac's "TAPS".

 

Any other books that are worth picking up?

Yeah the pistol book is good. Nothing else really sticks out. Someone should do a book of drills Phone Post

Cool, I've tried to justify spending the 40 bucks on the pistol book, but wasnt sure if it was worth buying. A lot of these books tell most of the same information.

 

Yeah, if anyone knows good drill books or any "must have" books at all, please tell.

 

Brian Enos' 1990 "Practical Shooting" is a fantastic book.

Pat MacNamara's "TAPS" is well worth the money.

As already stated, "Green Eyes, Black Rifles" is a great book.

3/23/13 4:36 PM
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Ben Stoeger's books are well worth the money.

The dryfire book is the best on the subject there is.

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Shooting-Guaranteed-Results-Minutes/dp/1481874713/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-3&keywords=ben+stoeger

The drills book is good as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Shooting-Proven-Process-Success/dp/1480271632/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-4&keywords=ben+stoeger

And finally, his "fundamentals" book is incredible. He covers pretty much every aspect of shooting a pistol, and he busts some popular myths such as the "press out" draw, et al. He has a bunch of blurbs written by guys like Vogel and Sevigny, and covers their approach to pistol shooting as well as his own. It's about 200 pages, and the first hundred are pistol fundamentals, while the second hundred focus on competition-specific techniques. I can't imagine anyone not getting a lot out of this book. There is also a certain someone mentioned first in the acknowledgements...

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Pistol-Fundamental-Techniques-Competition/dp/1482009978/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-1&keywords=ben+stoeger

3/23/13 4:40 PM
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Rhymenoceros - Ben Stoeger's books are well worth the money.

The dryfire book is the best on the subject there is.

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Shooting-Guaranteed-Results-Minutes/dp/1481874713/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-3&keywords=ben+stoeger

The drills book is good as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Shooting-Proven-Process-Success/dp/1480271632/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-4&keywords=ben+stoeger

And finally, his "fundamentals" book is incredible. He covers pretty much every aspect of shooting a pistol, and he busts some popular myths such as the "press out" draw, et al. He has a bunch of blurbs written by guys like Vogel and Sevigny, and covers their approach to pistol shooting as well as his own. It's about 200 pages, and the first hundred are pistol fundamentals, while the second hundred focus on competition-specific techniques. I can't imagine anyone not getting a lot out of this book. There is also a certain someone mentioned first in the acknowledgements...

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Pistol-Fundamental-Techniques-Competition/dp/1482009978/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-1&keywords=ben+stoeger


Sweet. I'm always down with a new book.

 

I'm trying to put together an order before Sunday on Amazon with a few new books. Thought about buying "Refinement and Repetition" by Steve Anderson.

More dry fire drills.

 

I'll have to buy one of Stoegers books too.

3/23/13 4:42 PM
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TheAssMurderer - 
Rhymenoceros - Ben Stoeger's books are well worth the money.

The dryfire book is the best on the subject there is.

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Shooting-Guaranteed-Results-Minutes/dp/1481874713/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-3&keywords=ben+stoeger

The drills book is good as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Shooting-Proven-Process-Success/dp/1480271632/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-4&keywords=ben+stoeger

And finally, his "fundamentals" book is incredible. He covers pretty much every aspect of shooting a pistol, and he busts some popular myths such as the "press out" draw, et al. He has a bunch of blurbs written by guys like Vogel and Sevigny, and covers their approach to pistol shooting as well as his own. It's about 200 pages, and the first hundred are pistol fundamentals, while the second hundred focus on competition-specific techniques. I can't imagine anyone not getting a lot out of this book. There is also a certain someone mentioned first in the acknowledgements...

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Pistol-Fundamental-Techniques-Competition/dp/1482009978/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364070391&sr=8-1&keywords=ben+stoeger


Sweet. I'm always down with a new book.

 

I'm trying to put together an order before Sunday on Amazon with a few new books. Thought about buying "Refinement and Repetition" by Steve Anderson.

More dry fire drills.

 

I'll have to buy one of Stoegers books too.


No offense to Anderson, but "refinement and repetition" is garbage compared to Stoeger's book. Anderson has some really flawed approaches to training, but Stoeger's approach is what helped him win a couple national championships in a row.
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