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3/23/13 12:32 AM
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Jedburgh1
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It's late and I am spent. Sometimes I don't know how much people understand of the socom heirarchy. My apologies. Phone Post
3/23/13 12:50 AM
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IP - Jed - Cycling the M4 via charging handle

Method you favor, please.


JG uses the charging handle during speed reloads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

I've been meaning to ask him his logic--will report back here.

FYI, MNQ is a fantastic drill to see where you are.

Sorry to hijack, but...

Speaking of Jeff, he is auctioning of the prototype TRICON MK6 to benefit Gary Welt, one of his former teammates at SEAL TEAM 4 who was recently diagnosed with ALS.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with it, Lou Gehrig's disease is one of the worst ways to go in existence. Your motor neurons fail progressively. You die from suffocation, when the neurons that move your diaphragm allowing you to breath eventually fail.

Average survival is 2 to 5 years.

Here is Gary Welt's story.

http://sofrep.com/17877/the-sof-community-takes-care-of-a-brother-call-to-action/

Here is the auction.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=333825930

Maybe one of our high rollers like Severnsmustache or even DFW might want to place a bid.

Money will go toward helping retrofit Gary's home for a wheelchair, etc.
3/23/13 1:03 AM
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Not a hijack to help a guy in need.

Kyle Lamb advocates the charging handle bolt release for people that don't train extensively. I find the the open hand slap helps keep me in an aggressive mindset to get my mind back in the fight, because the 'oh shit' reload moment definitely gives you the 'record scratch' of high school parties; it's awkward and you need to move past it!

I'm gonna try to go shoot the MNQ tomorrow and film it with timer for you guys. Don't hold it against me if I don't.
3/23/13 2:30 AM
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MNQ is a great drill. 8 inch paper plate makes the perfect target for it.

Also like Kyle Lamb's Zig Zag drill.

You think "Green eyes, black rifle" is worth getting?
3/23/13 2:40 AM
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"JG uses the charging handle during speed reloads.

I've been meaning to ask him his logic--will report back here."

i'm with jed...hell even sitting a ta bench, i use the ping pong paddle,,,

i wonder if he uses the CH because thats how he'd clear a malfunction, and he just wants muscle memory to do 1 thing always
3/23/13 8:07 AM
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Jedburgh1 - 
IP - Sounds to me like there are quite a few civilian firearms enthusiasts with solid expertise in shooting. Have you guys ever thought about getting together privately and doing a round-robin type instruction/presentation to each other? I have to believe you'd pick up some good stuff, and at the same time save money by not paying for a big name. Obviously you guys are interested in improving your game. This might be a good option.?.

OG Shooter's Improvement Conclave.

If we've got a little land to run and some steel targets, I'm in.

I've got a place up in GA. Picking a time that would work for everyone might be the hard part.

3/23/13 8:28 AM
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Rhymenoceros - <blockquote>Jedburgh1 - Ah my friend, <br /><br />You've confused your terms. The AMU is the Army Marksmanship Unit, of which your assessment is spot on. <br /><br />Those men are from a SMU or special missions unit, which is a horse of a vastly different color. And yet they still find time to be GM class shooters. Truly amazing shooters.</blockquote>

I was kidding, hence the "JK."

I'm aware those guys are/were Delta. I can say that because as a civilian I pay for their ammo or something. And because I don't know shit.

AMU

SMU

3/23/13 8:40 AM
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Sheesh - I was just trying to take a shot at the AMU. I totally get it that one hosts shooting camps for kids and the other shreds bad guys.

I will say, though, some of the AMU guys are fucking monster pistol shooters. Monster sandbaggers, too.
3/23/13 9:45 AM
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tyronehernandez - MNQ is a great drill. 8 inch paper plate makes the perfect target for it.

Also like Kyle Lamb's Zig Zag drill.

You think "Green eyes, black rifle" is worth getting?
Yes I reference that book all the time Phone Post
3/23/13 11:59 AM
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Rhymenoceros - Ron Avery describes the difference between Weaver and Iso pretty well here. He's a fucking incredible shooter btw. Even though he's a little older he's a threat to win even at the highest levels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewbIC2P8Hw

For those on phones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewbIC2P8Hw

 

 

3/23/13 12:01 PM
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Gforce - 
IP - Jed - Cycling the M4 via charging handle

Method you favor, please.
 

JG uses the charging handle during speed reloads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

 

^ Interesting barrel design

3/23/13 2:51 PM
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Thanks man, looks very innovative. I will run it up the chain and see if we can pick some up.
3/23/13 3:13 PM
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I think were all missing the boat here. We should all be training with this guy lol.

3/23/13 3:14 PM
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That was brilliant.
3/23/13 3:20 PM
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Well gents, went out to put my money where my mouth is this morning.  

 

Shot the modified navy qual.  Best I can tell by the scoring system, I missed expert by 1 second!  

 

Sequence of events in the video:  Short diatribe by Jed (real short, nobody likes videos with minutes of talking before the action)  walk out prep rifle and sight, set bullshit Surefire app timer, shoot, walk downrange and check out targets.  

3/23/13 3:20 PM
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Range Video  

3/23/13 3:27 PM
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Point of View. From my second interation. Forgot to turn off the guncam on the first.
3/23/13 3:48 PM
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I don't see a video.?.
3/23/13 3:50 PM
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Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg
3/23/13 3:55 PM
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Vids worked for me

3/23/13 3:59 PM
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Jedburgh1 - Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg

I see them both. ISP must be having browser issue.

 

I see you said you reference Lambs "Green Eyes, Black Rifles". Do you by chance have his pistol book? It's called "stay in the fight".

 

The only firearms books I have are Brian Enos' "Practical Shooting", Lambs Carbine book, and Pat Mac's "TAPS".

 

Any other books that are worth picking up?

3/23/13 3:59 PM
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That drill requires supporting gear set up just right. If it wasn't for your loose belt, you had expert easy.
3/23/13 4:07 PM
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Jedburgh1 - Damnit.

Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDmpBoeXwRY

Contour Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kldxf9jalXg

I see them both. ISP must be having browser issue.

 

I see you said you reference Lambs "Green Eyes, Black Rifles". Do you by chance have his pistol book? It's called "stay in the fight".

 

The only firearms books I have are Brian Enos' "Practical Shooting", Lambs Carbine book, and Pat Mac's "TAPS".

 

Any other books that are worth picking up?

Yeah the pistol book is good. Nothing else really sticks out. Someone should do a book of drills Phone Post
3/23/13 4:08 PM
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IP - That drill requires supporting gear set up just right. If it wasn't for your loose belt, you had expert easy.
Yeah the vest normally holds it in place.

Also lolz at 'videotape' some of the younger posters may need an explanation Phone Post
3/23/13 4:22 PM
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Hey, by chance do you know what brand of VFG this is?

I don't really care for the ones that I currently own and this looks like it will fit the way I hold my rifle much better.

 

The only two I can find that look similar are a 100 doller Daniel Defense and a 12 dollar Pro-Mag

 

 


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