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2/18/13 10:10 AM
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RobinHood - If the money generated could propel the UFC to the next level of US sports, I think Zuffa bosses would be hard pressed to say no. Phone Post
What money do they need to get to the next level? They already have te best fighters, which is probably the biggest expense. They are already on one of the biggest networks. They are already expanding all across the world.

Going public creates a ton of hassles and expenses. Phone Post
2/18/13 10:11 AM
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Won't go public. Makes no sense Phone Post
2/18/13 10:14 AM
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dfw jr - Won't go public. Makes no sense Phone Post
Please don't. Everyone understands what going public really means. It means you're ready to cash in your chips - which means you've lost the passion that made the UFC what it is today.

It also means public reporting and being subject to all sorts of government regulation. Fuck that. Phone Post
2/18/13 10:15 AM
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dfw jr - None of us wanted to do TUF. It was the only way we figured we could get live fights on TV so we gave it a shot. If TUF didn't work MMA was fucked. Season 1 kicked ass and ended with a LIVE finale. The only thing me and the Fertittas argued over was the coaches. They wanted Tito as a coach for season 1 and I did not. When Lorenzo and I write a book someday of the REAL story of how the UFC really all happened u will be blown away by some of the stories. Craziest shit!! Phone Post
Can you write it now? Phone Post
2/18/13 10:18 AM
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Don't blame you Dana...I don't think the cash infusion is worth the loss of control and the added stress of worrying about your stock price each day.
2/18/13 10:19 AM
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dfw jr -  Won't go public. Makes no sense Phone Post

The judges and refs are enough reason not to let the Government control anymore..
True. Just imagine if that type of incompetence began to infect other areas of the UFC. Phone Post
2/18/13 10:24 AM
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last thing Zuffa needs is being accountable to hedge fund managers regulating their business model/practices and having their books open to scrutiny by the fighters which would help foster public pressure for labour organization
2/18/13 10:26 AM
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If we ever write the book it's gonna be a while. Takes so much time but he and I were literally in his office the other day going over old stories and how building this business has been so fucking crazy and the stories from dealing with government, fighters, other organization back in the day(Pride, etc) CRAZY SHIT!!! Phone Post
2/18/13 10:33 AM
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Worked out well for Wallid Ismail with ProElite. Why not.
2/18/13 10:43 AM
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No, no, no. As a fan this would be the absolute worse thing the UFC could do. When appeasing stock analysts is your top priority everyone else loses. No longer is it about making the best matches/cards possible, it's about making the best profit-maximizing cards possible.

I know it's far from an equal comparison but when the WWE went public the "product" suffered badly. Tag teams, for instance, all but disappeared because 4 wrestlers cost more than 2, same with managers. The end result was that while I'm sure they were (and are) still very profitable, they diluted the "product" badly all in the name of the bottom line.

 

2/18/13 11:14 AM
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The only chance of this happening is if they were bought out (cash plus shares) by a public company. The Station Casinos are legendary. The father did what no Casino had done before. He did it in a time when the local operators were failing, small operations were going bankrupt weeks after opening. They did it in a Union town without the Union. In the end the business model is the reason you see Indian Casinos operate the way they do. The business that they built was nothing short of amazing. Yet the public never bought, the stock never performed and the Brothers invested and leveraged their asses off to take the company private. Saying that being public is a drain on the business. The result is they went private and are still operating and the family is in control.

The stock market has no appetite for MMA. Bellator had no impact on Viacom's bottom line, the merger was not even a material event in the Viacom operation. The companies that are public have wiped our any and all shareholder confidence that might come from forums like this. Companies like Proelite and MusclePharm have burned shareholders and left a wake of destruction that would be difficult to overcome. So add the expense, the history of the Brothers have with the public market not rewarding a successful business, lack of Institutional Interest in MMA and it is never going to happen.
2/18/13 11:21 AM
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A UFC reality show? Horrible idea........ won't happen

 

That's actually a great idea. A UFC reality show would at least be interesting. Phone Post
2/18/13 11:24 AM
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What other sports leagues have gone public? Nfl, MLB, NHL,nba, etc. No need for the UFC to do it either imo

2/20/13 2:14 AM
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dfw jr -  None of us wanted to do TUF. It was the only way we figured we could get live fights on TV so we gave it a shot. If TUF didn't work MMA was fucked. Season 1 kicked ass and ended with a LIVE finale. The only thing me and the Fertittas argued over was the coaches. They wanted Tito as a coach for season 1 and I did not. When Lorenzo and I write a book someday of the REAL story of how the UFC really all happened u will be blown away by some of the stories. Craziest shit!! Phone Post

Good thing Tito wasn't a coach. He's a whiner.
2/20/13 2:59 AM
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Just like the UFC was never going to let women fight for them?

So I'd say you can bet the ranch that this means the UFC will go public!

 

2/20/13 4:47 AM
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dfw jr - None of us wanted to do TUF. It was the only way we figured we could get live fights on TV so we gave it a shot. If TUF didn't work MMA was fucked. Season 1 kicked ass and ended with a LIVE finale. The only thing me and the Fertittas argued over was the coaches. They wanted Tito as a coach for season 1 and I did not. When Lorenzo and I write a book someday of the REAL story of how the UFC really all happened u will be blown away by some of the stories. Craziest shit!! Phone Post
Can you write it now? Phone Post

he may be doing it already.... he's writing a book with that nick the tooth guy....

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