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jsize03 - This comment has absolutely nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with GSP.

Silva won't go to 170. GSP doesn't seem to want to go to 185. There has been a lot of talk about a catchweight. Anderson offered to fight at 177 last October.

Hmmm.....177 is 7 lbs more than 170. 192 is 7 lbs more than 185. What a coincidence!! Anderson is telling GSP: "I'll go up 7 lbs to fight the champ, why won't you?"

Anderson is playing chess. You're all playing checkers.

gsp should ask him why he wont meet that champ in the middle as well
2/26/13 12:14 PM
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sparkuri -  I think that broken leg of Corey hill took him out of the goat discussion. Phone Post

But Dan Hardy is still in it?


A dyed mohawk will put you in that discussion.

2/26/13 12:24 PM
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Did he fight Bonnar, Griffin, and Irvin at 192 as well ?

Did Fedor say he would fight Hong Man Choi at 238# ? Phone Post
Exactly. He didn't have a problem fighting at lhw before, when he was fighting someone that he was almost guaranteed to beat,but now that he is fighting someone with a reasonable chance of beating him, he doesn't want to do it.

I think part of it is arrogance, where he actually believes he is king, and everyone should come to him, and part of it is fear, and he realizes that his stock could drop dramatically. Phone Post
Fedor was a hw already. With Machida and little Nog already at 205, Silva doesn't want to screw them over by possibly taking 205 over .... Phone Post

this by far is the lamest excuse of the million he has for not fighting jbj at 205!
2/26/13 12:34 PM
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Did he fight Bonnar, Griffin, and Irvin at 192 as well ?

Did Fedor say he would fight Hong Man Choi at 238# ? Phone Post
Exactly. He didn't have a problem fighting at lhw before, when he was fighting someone that he was almost guaranteed to beat,but now that he is fighting someone with a reasonable chance of beating him, he doesn't want to do it.

I think part of it is arrogance, where he actually believes he is king, and everyone should come to him, and part of it is fear, and he realizes that his stock could drop dramatically. Phone Post
Fedor was a hw already. With Machida and little Nog already at 205, Silva doesn't want to screw them over by possibly taking 205 over .... Phone Post

this by far is the lamest excuse of the million he has for not fighting jbj at 205!

Lame is a good word for it.

If Silva doesn't want to "screw over" Machida or Lil Nog he should just STFU about fighting him. Or take the 205 belt then vacate it.... Just because you take a belt doesn't mean you have to defend it.

Common sense is common sense
2/26/13 12:42 PM
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meekie01 -  I often wonder why silva gets so much hate... is it that he doesnt entertain enough and people dont like his style of fighting? Is it that he has offended these people some how? Are they mad that he doesnt have a loss in hos ufc career so far? Is it that these people like to make out that hes scared and avoids competitors when hes never officially turned down a fight in the ufc? Or are these people just hating on the best mixed martial arts fighter to ever grace the octagon???

I remember a couple of years ago reading how anderson was scared of gsp etc etc etc... then it tirns out dana wanted him to fight gsp. Anderson agreed and all of a sudden hes a bully... lol if he wants a catchweight then whats wrong with that? Its only like jones not wanting to step up for cormier or gsp for silva... but wait... thats different right? Phone Post

personally i think its because his division is sub-par compared to most the others and the guys in that division are not as well rounded or as dominate as guys in most other divisions.there is not nearly as many threats at 185 as there is other divisions...out of the 16 ufc fights i only felt maybe 6 of those guys ever belonged in there with him.we get mad because we want to see the best challenge them self. if there is nothing left for you to do then just go away.
to me the list of people jbj smashed already far exceeds andy's.
2/26/13 1:18 PM
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Let Dana get Mike Dolce' to help Jones safely make 192. Isn't that how it works? ***side eye***
2/26/13 2:13 PM
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jsize03 - This comment has absolutely nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with GSP.

Silva won't go to 170. GSP doesn't seem to want to go to 185. There has been a lot of talk about a catchweight. Anderson offered to fight at 177 last October.

Hmmm.....177 is 7 lbs more than 170. 192 is 7 lbs more than 185. What a coincidence!! Anderson is telling GSP: "I'll go up 7 lbs to fight the champ, why won't you?"

Anderson is playing chess. You're all playing checkers.

gsp should ask him why he wont meet that champ in the middle as well

LMAO. You don't get it! That's what Silva wants. It's bait. Like I said....chess, not checkers. Gotta think one step ahead. Let me break it down for you.

AS: I'll go up 7lbs to fight the champ. Why won't you?
GSP: Why won't you meet the champ in the middle?
AS: OK, I will. So will you fight me in the middle too? (177.5lbs)
GSP: -_______-
2/26/13 2:14 PM
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Threads like these make me question the UG's sanity and mental capabilities.

YOU ARE ALL GETTING TROLLED.
2/26/13 2:18 PM
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People acting like 185 is so weak are living in 2005.

Fact is, NOBODY at any other weight class can go in and sweep up at Middleweight. If they could they would. Fighters DROP from Middleweight now and not just because of Anderson.

Shields beat Hendo, how long did he last at 85?

Where's Rich Franklin now? Where's Chael now?

Middleweight being weak is just an oft repeated forum thing that nobody has been able to capitalize on.

2/26/13 2:32 PM
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jsize03 - This comment has absolutely nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with GSP.

Silva won't go to 170. GSP doesn't seem to want to go to 185. There has been a lot of talk about a catchweight. Anderson offered to fight at 177 last October.

Hmmm.....177 is 7 lbs more than 170. 192 is 7 lbs more than 185. What a coincidence!! Anderson is telling GSP: "I'll go up 7 lbs to fight the champ, why won't you?"

Anderson is playing chess. You're all playing checkers.

gsp should ask him why he wont meet that champ in the middle as well

LMAO. You don't get it! That's what Silva wants. It's bait. Like I said....chess, not checkers. Gotta think one step ahead. Let me break it down for you.

AS: I'll go up 7lbs to fight the champ. Why won't you?
GSP: Why won't you meet the champ in the middle?
AS: OK, I will. So will you fight me in the middle too? (177.5lbs)
GSP: -_______-
Too bad anderson already tipped his hand by saying he can make 170....oops.

He doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to gsp because he's not the draw and he's the one asking for the fight. Anderson will go on complaining about fighting weidman and pull 200k in ppv buys while gsp will be doing 700k plus against anyone in the division.

But none of it really matters because it's all just silva acting like a diva anyway. He will never fight gsp or jones because he knows he'll lose if he goes to either of their weightclasses and instead will continue throwing out stupid shit like unrealistic catch-weights and hypotheticals of dropping to ww. Phone Post
2/26/13 3:28 PM
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jsize03 - This comment has absolutely nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with GSP.

Silva won't go to 170. GSP doesn't seem to want to go to 185. There has been a lot of talk about a catchweight. Anderson offered to fight at 177 last October.

Hmmm.....177 is 7 lbs more than 170. 192 is 7 lbs more than 185. What a coincidence!! Anderson is telling GSP: "I'll go up 7 lbs to fight the champ, why won't you?"

Anderson is playing chess. You're all playing checkers.

gsp should ask him why he wont meet that champ in the middle as well

LMAO. You don't get it! That's what Silva wants. It's bait. Like I said....chess, not checkers. Gotta think one step ahead. Let me break it down for you.

AS: I'll go up 7lbs to fight the champ. Why won't you?
GSP: Why won't you meet the champ in the middle?
AS: OK, I will. So will you fight me in the middle too? (177.5lbs)
GSP: -_______-

Gsp: ill believe it when i see it.then ill consider it.because ill have even less excuses and look real scared if i don't.

tell me this.why would andy go through all this dumb shit? why not just say un-like gsp ill meet john in the middle if the ufc wants me to fight him.gsp doesnt want to meet me in the middle but i will meet either guy rt in the middle.that is reasonable understandable.then both guys have a option.to do so or not.and thats that.

gsp thinks he is the best fighter 170 or below and many feel the same.i dont think he has the same confidence at a higher class yet.where as many feel andy is the best period.and he has fought in that weight class.so lets find out if he is the best at 205 and under.

1. gsp does not want that fight and there is at least 3 people for him to face in his division.

2 .the majority of people give gsp no chance vs andy,those same people think he will beat jbj easy as well.

3.so what fight do u want to see more? if i have chose its def silva vs jbj at 195-205.

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If I were Jones I'd accept then cut to 215 and stop there.

Fucking LOL @ 192.   It's not even half way between their divisions.

 

Anderson apparently never wanting to fight who the UFC says, GSP flat out denying Hendricks, Aldo flat out refusing Pettis a title shot, Ronda doing a 180 on saying she would fight Cyborg after she won the belt...

What the FUCK is happening to this sport?

We all miss chuck Liddell right about now Phone Post
They aren't fighters anymore they are athletes cashing in Phone Post
2/26/13 3:41 PM
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jsize03 - This comment has absolutely nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with GSP.

Silva won't go to 170. GSP doesn't seem to want to go to 185. There has been a lot of talk about a catchweight. Anderson offered to fight at 177 last October.

Hmmm.....177 is 7 lbs more than 170. 192 is 7 lbs more than 185. What a coincidence!! Anderson is telling GSP: "I'll go up 7 lbs to fight the champ, why won't you?"

Anderson is playing chess. You're all playing checkers.

gsp should ask him why he wont meet that champ in the middle as well

LMAO. You don't get it! That's what Silva wants. It's bait. Like I said....chess, not checkers. Gotta think one step ahead. Let me break it down for you.

AS: I'll go up 7lbs to fight the champ. Why won't you?
GSP: Why won't you meet the champ in the middle?
AS: OK, I will. So will you fight me in the middle too? (177.5lbs)
GSP: -_______-

another thing andy said he can fight at various weights well and could make 170.so make 170 and fight if u want to so bad.he knows jbj would struggle far to much to get below 200-196.so what does that say about this goat.
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He's fought at 205 3 times but doesn't want Jones at 205.What the hell? Phone Post
2/26/13 4:13 PM
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People acting like 185 is so weak are living in 2005.

Fact is, NOBODY at any other weight class can go in and sweep up at Middleweight. If they could they would. Fighters DROP from Middleweight now and not just because of Anderson.

Shields beat Hendo, how long did he last at 85?

Where's Rich Franklin now? Where's Chael now?

Middleweight being weak is just an oft repeated forum thing that nobody has been able to capitalize on.


chael and rich would still be top 10-15 at mw.they are probably not even top 20 at lhw rt now.
and mma math doesnt work.because jake got blasted by ellenburger and arguably lost to martin his first fight back before losing to gsp.his only decisive win is at mw and he beat herman at mw also but it got overturned.he is 2-0 at mw and 1-2(0-3) at ww.
2/26/13 4:17 PM
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Catchweight makes sense, just meet in the middle. If Jones can't do it, then fine, move on. I think that he can make it.
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People acting like 185 is so weak are living in 2005.

Fact is, NOBODY at any other weight class can go in and sweep up at Middleweight. If they could they would. Fighters DROP from Middleweight now and not just because of Anderson.

Shields beat Hendo, how long did he last at 85?

Where's Rich Franklin now? Where's Chael now?

Middleweight being weak is just an oft repeated forum thing that nobody has been able to capitalize on.


chael and rich would still be top 10-15 at mw.they are probably not even top 20 at lhw rt now.
and mma math doesnt work.because jake got blasted by ellenburger and arguably lost to martin his first fight back before losing to gsp.his only decisive win is at mw and he beat herman at mw also but it got overturned.he is 2-0 at mw and 1-2(0-3) at ww.

You say MMA math doesn't work but common sense does.

Certain forum people keep saying Middleweight is weak but all they have are excuses when it comes to why nobody from other divisions will come to rule it.

Most everybody at Welterweight weighs 185 or better yet nobody ever comes up. Robbie Lawler just went down and destroyed one of the best at 170.

It's an outright lie. Middleweight is one of the best divisions right now, until Rashad or someone else proves otherwise....which they won't.

 

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People acting like 185 is so weak are living in 2005.

Fact is, NOBODY at any other weight class can go in and sweep up at Middleweight. If they could they would. Fighters DROP from Middleweight now and not just because of Anderson.

Shields beat Hendo, how long did he last at 85?

Where's Rich Franklin now? Where's Chael now?

Middleweight being weak is just an oft repeated forum thing that nobody has been able to capitalize on.


They can't even find a worthy challenger for the champ. Franklin and Sonnen left because they couldn't beat one specific guy, which limited the fights in the division for them. There's little if any interest in seeing either of them agains AS again, so there's not much for them at MW. Same with Hendo. Shields left 185 undefeated.
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People acting like 185 is so weak are living in 2005.

Fact is, NOBODY at any other weight class can go in and sweep up at Middleweight. If they could they would. Fighters DROP from Middleweight now and not just because of Anderson.

Shields beat Hendo, how long did he last at 85?

Where's Rich Franklin now? Where's Chael now?

Middleweight being weak is just an oft repeated forum thing that nobody has been able to capitalize on.


chael and rich would still be top 10-15 at mw.they are probably not even top 20 at lhw rt now.
and mma math doesnt work.because jake got blasted by ellenburger and arguably lost to martin his first fight back before losing to gsp.his only decisive win is at mw and he beat herman at mw also but it got overturned.he is 2-0 at mw and 1-2(0-3) at ww.

You say MMA math doesn't work but common sense does.

Certain forum people keep saying Middleweight is weak but all they have are excuses when it comes to why nobody from other divisions will come to rule it.

Most everybody at Welterweight weighs 185 or better yet nobody ever comes up. Robbie Lawler just went down and destroyed one of the best at 170.

It's an outright lie. Middleweight is one of the best divisions right now, until Rashad or someone else proves otherwise....which they won't.

 


No shit, guys rarely go up in general, they go down and TONS of fighters have gone down to 185 from 205.
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He'd 100% allow a CW fight between JBJ and Silva or GSP and Silva.  He's just protecting Rousey.


There is nobody for RR to fight outside of 135lbs.
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People acting like 185 is so weak are living in 2005.

Fact is, NOBODY at any other weight class can go in and sweep up at Middleweight. If they could they would. Fighters DROP from Middleweight now and not just because of Anderson.

Shields beat Hendo, how long did he last at 85?

Where's Rich Franklin now? Where's Chael now?

Middleweight being weak is just an oft repeated forum thing that nobody has been able to capitalize on.


They can't even find a worthy challenger for the champ. Franklin and Sonnen left because they couldn't beat one specific guy, which limited the fights in the division for them. There's little if any interest in seeing either of them agains AS again, so there's not much for them at MW. Same with Hendo. Shields left 185 undefeated.

Are you kidding? A lot of people think Bisping beat Chael, what makes you think Weidman or someone similar wouldn't do the same?

Franklin just got KO'd by Cung Le, did you know that?

Hendo lost to Shields who was coming up from 170.

Shields's fights in the UFC were lackluster and he ended up getting busted for roids trying to compete at Middleweight.

Anything else?

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jsize03 - This comment has absolutely nothing to do with Jones, and everything to do with GSP.

Silva won't go to 170. GSP doesn't seem to want to go to 185. There has been a lot of talk about a catchweight. Anderson offered to fight at 177 last October.

Hmmm.....177 is 7 lbs more than 170. 192 is 7 lbs more than 185. What a coincidence!! Anderson is telling GSP: "I'll go up 7 lbs to fight the champ, why won't you?"

Anderson is playing chess. You're all playing checkers.

gsp should ask him why he wont meet that champ in the middle as well

LMAO. You don't get it! That's what Silva wants. It's bait. Like I said....chess, not checkers. Gotta think one step ahead. Let me break it down for you.

AS: I'll go up 7lbs to fight the champ. Why won't you?
GSP: Why won't you meet the champ in the middle?
AS: OK, I will. So will you fight me in the middle too? (177.5lbs)
GSP: -_______-

another thing andy said he can fight at various weights well and could make 170.so make 170 and fight if u want to so bad.he knows jbj would struggle far to much to get below 200-196.so what does that say about this goat.

Let's not kid ourselves. AS says a lot of things to mess with people/media. He hasn't fought at 170 in over 7 years. He's NOT making 170.

I'm always puzzled when ppl act like GSP gets to call the shots just because he draws more PPV buys. The numbers aren't so extreme that it'd make a valid argument. On top of that, Silva jumped in to save a PPV and between GSP and Silva...only 1 has ever lost in the Octagon. Acting like GSP gets to call the shots because he gets 200K more PPV buys is a joke.

Plus, There are currently 2 "super fights" that fans want to see. Both involve Anderson. Jones isn't coming down to 185. So....you really want Anderson to cut to 170, then jump back up to 205? Get real.


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I hope none of the people who say Jones would die trying to make 192 aren't the same ones always bleating about how Anderson is "really" 220lb. 


Are you saying he doesn't walk around at 220+ ?

Have you met the man ?

Hung out with him ?


If you believe Anderson's walking weight in the 220s is anything like Jones' walking weight in the 220s, then presumably you must also think Jones should have zero trouble making 192, since Anderson has never missed 185 and has even come in as low as 182.

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If I were Jones I'd accept then cut to 215 and stop there.

Fucking LOL @ 192.   It's not even half way between their divisions.

 

Anderson apparently never wanting to fight who the UFC says, GSP flat out denying Hendricks, Aldo flat out refusing Pettis a title shot, Ronda doing a 180 on saying she would fight Cyborg after she won the belt...

What the FUCK is happening to this sport?


this is happening:

Too true Phone Post
Nobody in the UFC is fighting for Mayweather money. Not even close. Say what you want about Floyd, boxing is a free for all and you can fight basically whoever the fuck you want once you reach a certain level. Look at who Floyd chose to fight....
Hatton when undefeated
Corrales when undefeated
Cotto at 154lbs
JMM after nearly 2 years off

The list goes on Phone Post
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I can't believe anyone wants to see Silva/GSP. GSP n.e.v.e.r. finishes fights and JBJ a.l.w.a.y.s finishes, as does Silva.

Does not everyone want to see the 2 best FINISHERS go at it?

Who gives a fuck about GSP? Probably the best chance to have a boring Silva fight is have him fight GSP.

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