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3/9/13 2:34 PM
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some MMA media memeber my want to look into this, is he on salary? a full time employee?

3/9/13 2:45 PM
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Here let me google that for you.....he worked UFC 157. So, no not a Bellator employee as of a few weeks ago. Phone Post
3/9/13 2:47 PM
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He's a referee dude. They are freelance by definition.
3/9/13 2:50 PM
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Dongbar -  Here let me google that for you.....he worked UFC 157. So, no not a Bellator employee as of a few weeks ago. Phone Post

wouldnt working for the CSAC and Bellator both be possible?

3/9/13 2:52 PM
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Chromium - He's a referee dude. They are freelance by definition.

no they traditionally are not, in sanctioned states they work for the state as contractors

contrary to industry standard I believe he has an employment arraignment directly with Bellator (as would UFC refs when working many overseas UFC shows in fairness)

3/9/13 2:54 PM
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Chromium - He's a referee dude. They are freelance by definition.

no they traditionally are not, in sanctioned states they work for the state as contractors

contrary to industry standard I believe he has an employment arraignment directly with Bellator (as would UFC refs when working many overseas UFC shows in fairness)


if he's a ref, you're wrong. they work for the commission. they do not work for the org. that's as blatant a conflict of interest as you could get.

the org can recommend refs but they don't work for them
3/10/13 10:00 AM
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Chromium - He's a referee dude. They are freelance by definition.

no they traditionally are not, in sanctioned states they work for the state as contractors

contrary to industry standard I believe he has an employment arraignment directly with Bellator (as would UFC refs when working many overseas UFC shows in fairness)


if he's a ref, you're wrong. they work for the commission. they do not work for the org. that's as blatant a conflict of interest as you could get.

the org can recommend refs but they don't work for them

My point is, what commision?

Many Bellator events are held on small reservations with NO commision at all - similat to UFC when they go to say Kuwait, etc.

3/10/13 10:00 AM
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Humphrey - 
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Chromium - He's a referee dude. They are freelance by definition.

no they traditionally are not, in sanctioned states they work for the state as contractors

contrary to industry standard I believe he has an employment arraignment directly with Bellator (as would UFC refs when working many overseas UFC shows in fairness)


if he's a ref, you're wrong. they work for the commission. they do not work for the org. that's as blatant a conflict of interest as you could get.

the org can recommend refs but they don't work for them

My point is, what commision?

Many Bellator events are held on small reservations with NO commision at all - similat to UFC when they go to say Kuwait, etc.

3/10/13 11:43 AM
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3/10/13 11:46 AM
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When Bellator holds an event in unsactioned territory then they would contract whomever they want to referee I would imagine. Phone Post
3/10/13 11:49 AM
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3/10/13 11:50 AM
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Jason seems legitimate though so I wouldn't worry too much.. Phone Post
3/10/13 11:54 AM
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DanteHec - Jason seems legitimate though so I wouldn't worry too much.. Phone Post
I don't ever remember him making a controversial call which means he's doing it right. Phone Post
3/10/13 11:56 AM
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DanteHec -  Jason seems legitimate though so I wouldn't worry too much.. Phone Post

I agree 100% with the first four words, but its just sad & silly that in this 'sport' the #2 global organization flees sanctioning like its a disease 

3/10/13 11:58 AM
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the_fight_observer -  When Bellator holds an event in unsactioned territory then they would contract whomever they want to referee I would imagine. Phone Post

right, but the issue is in like 80% of their fights they pick & pay the ref & judges under that situation


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