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3/11/13 8:05 PM
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munsturrman28
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2JupitersTooMany - I'm going to call it, munsturrman28, you have been identified. Please remove your nondescript rash guard and your We are all One t-shirt and wait at the Avellan Conscience Memorial Monument for your self extermination instructions. Phone Post
What do you mean suspicious. I think it is very suspicious that those Grapplers left when they did not before. Phone Post
3/11/13 8:06 PM
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2JupitersTooMany
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*initiate Phone Post
3/11/13 8:07 PM
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I'm going to need a thread clean team to mop up this distraction spill, infection has been otherwise contained. Phone Post
3/11/13 8:10 PM
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Vote up for gannon, a true asset to this forum.
3/11/13 9:09 PM
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Best Yelp review:

1/5 Stars: Did *not* live up to all the molestation potential I had heard so much about. Upon arriving, I inquired about their raping course, and was asked my age. I told them "18" and they mumbled something about being "too old". Took a tour of their fighter house, and it looked to be a completely uninhabited domicile. Scam!

Would not recommend. :-(
3/11/13 9:12 PM
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Tankhead
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time traveling 12er -

Should we start a list?  I think wassp and heel hooker are two of them.

I called Wassup an Internet Assassin. I was surprised to see a friend request from him. It had a message attached that I didn't read.

The preview read something like, "WTF is an Internet assassin? Seriously, dude, like..."

I deleted that shit promptly. I've never had someone try to add me after getting run thru the wringer. Phone Post
3/11/13 9:24 PM
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Vote up for Gannon.

I posted this on another thread, but I will repeat it here.

Whenever there is some horrible scandal, the question is often asked " How come no one spoke out?"

We, on MMATV need to speak out against sexual abuse and cultlike behaviour in the MMA community.

We need to do it loudly, publically and often.

We are not the Catholic Clergy, the Rampart division of the LAPD, or Wall Street Merchant Bankers...rapists and crooks have no place in our community or sport.



3/11/13 9:40 PM
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Tankhead
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B-bump!

How is this not a sticky? If I had people trying to bury rape on a forum I ran, it'd be stickied and news on the front page. Phone Post
3/11/13 9:43 PM
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Just to be clear, Kirik has his reasons. I can't speak on that. He has a lot of people who can give evidence of his character. I believe them.

I'm just giving my two cents. Phone Post
3/11/13 9:45 PM
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In for later. Phone Post
3/11/13 9:46 PM
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Tankhead - Just to be clear, Kirik has his reasons. I can't speak on that. He has a lot of people who can give evidence of his character. I believe them.

I'm just giving my two cents. Phone Post
I agree after mulling it over. I think Kirik is a great guy who was to some degree affected by his relationships and he got it wrong here, missing a chance to be vocal about a huge cancer on the sport. It's a bummer to me but whatever. Phone Post
3/11/13 9:49 PM
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3/11/13 9:51 PM
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GladiatorGannon -
MMA Playwrite - "The most common tactic now appears to be Derailment Arguments"

Uhhh....... OP is just mad because Kimbo was ahead in points and was on his way to victory when OP had to resort to knees.

Hey! Those were legal strikes! LOL
Nothing to do with your thread (sorry!) but that fight was fucking awesome. Respek! Phone Post
3/11/13 9:53 PM
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Tankhead
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2JupitersTooMany -
Tankhead - Just to be clear, Kirik has his reasons. I can't speak on that. He has a lot of people who can give evidence of his character. I believe them.

I'm just giving my two cents. Phone Post
I agree after mulling it over. I think Kirik is a great guy who was to some degree affected by his relationships and he got it wrong here, missing a chance to be vocal about a huge cancer on the sport. It's a bummer to me but whatever. Phone Post
Agreed.

Also, I know you've heard this quiet a bit, but good work on this whole debacle. You've always been a solid poster. It's nice to see your a good guy too. Phone Post
3/11/13 9:57 PM
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Tankhead
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On a side note, I've been posting almost exclusively to TLI threads for the last few days.

I've watched my arrows drop. It's odd, to be honest. I haven't been flaming and I haven't been a petulant jackass.

Maybe the Internet assassins are using their one vote a day to VD naysayers. Maybe on old thread I was a jackass on got bumped.

Who knows. Don't really care bout arrows, but I've dropped a few today. Phone Post
3/11/13 10:00 PM
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3/11/13 10:05 PM
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Tankhead -  On a side note, I've been posting almost exclusively to TLI threads for the last few days.

I've watched my arrows drop. It's odd, to be honest. I haven't been flaming and I haven't been a petulant jackass.

Maybe the Internet assassins are using their one vote a day to VD naysayers. Maybe on old thread I was a jackass on got bumped.

Who knows. Don't really care bout arrows, but I've dropped a few today. Phone Post

VTFU.
3/11/13 10:11 PM
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Tankhead -  On a side note, I've been posting almost exclusively to TLI threads for the last few days.

I've watched my arrows drop. It's odd, to be honest. I haven't been flaming and I haven't been a petulant jackass.

Maybe the Internet assassins are using their one vote a day to VD naysayers. Maybe on old thread I was a jackass on got bumped.

Who knows. Don't really care bout arrows, but I've dropped a few today. Phone Post

I got voted down once as well and, like you, only been posting in TLI threads. I did not think much of it until I saw your post so it just might be his boys vote stalking you. It is rather amusing that it is all he and his ilk can muster.
3/11/13 10:15 PM
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Tankhead
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Chromium -
Tankhead -  On a side note, I've been posting almost exclusively to TLI threads for the last few days.

I've watched my arrows drop. It's odd, to be honest. I haven't been flaming and I haven't been a petulant jackass.

Maybe the Internet assassins are using their one vote a day to VD naysayers. Maybe on old thread I was a jackass on got bumped.

Who knows. Don't really care bout arrows, but I've dropped a few today. Phone Post

VTFU.
Thanks, brother.

Tré, the UG tends to even out the bullshit, so don't sweat it too much. If you get frozen (which I hope neither of us do), email Kirik explaining the situation and he'll more than likely make it right.

The votes are arbitrary. I just find it odd that people who are commenting on what's going on without calling for his family to to be murdered (I seent it!) are getting VTFD. Phone Post
3/11/13 10:24 PM
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I've dropped down a point today, which did seem random, and a lot of my posts today have been in the Lloyd Irvin threads. Less random is that since I voted you up to 14 just 15 minutes ago, you've already been voted down to 13 again, so it does look like you've been specifically targeted.
3/11/13 10:28 PM
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Tankhead
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Chromium - I've dropped down a point today, which did seem random, and a lot of my posts today have been in the Lloyd Irvin threads. Less random is that since I voted you up to 14 just 15 minutes ago, you've already been voted down to 13 again, so it does look like you've been specifically targeted.
Lol. What can you do?

When I get to the comp, I'll give you a VTFU in return. This could be a bigger issue than burying the facts. They could be trying to cut off the head (which I am clearly NOT) in attempts to kill the body.

Get the people who are most active in th convo froze and spend the next 72 hours spinning without resistance. Phone Post
3/11/13 10:38 PM
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Tankhead
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Bump and VTFU to Chromium.
3/11/13 10:47 PM
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I'm pretty sure LI supporters will be using the voting system on this forum to keep detractors to a minimum. Phone Post
3/11/13 10:55 PM
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Tankhead - Bump and VTFU to Chromium.

Much obliged good sir.

Anyway, back directly on topic, saw this in another thread:

Massa - Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.

2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.

3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.

4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.

5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.

6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.

7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.

8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".

9. The group/leader is always right.

10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

More here:
http://www.rickross.com/warningsigns.html
http://www.rickross.com/


Seem familiar?
3/11/13 10:57 PM
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GladiatorGannon -
MMA Playwrite - "The most common tactic now appears to be Derailment Arguments"

Uhhh....... OP is just mad because Kimbo was ahead in points and was on his way to victory when OP had to resort to knees.

Hey! Those were legal strikes! LOL
Legit lmao. Still one of the coolest moments in UG history.

I support this thread. No matter how you look at this situation, there are some seriously fucked up things going on with Lloyd Irvin and as an informed public we can't just let this be some "viral" point to make and fall off about it once things seem a bit better. It's important to keep on top of this and not allow efforts to literally con and potentially hurt people with this bullshit society of assholes to continue happening. Sexual assault and rape in martial arts is a complete contradiction to what this is all about! Respect, honor, living better lives... The martial way! What a joke! Stay diligent good people of the UG. Phone Post

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