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3/14/13 5:37 PM
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Joe Lauzon
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3/14/13 5:47 PM
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3/14/13 5:50 PM
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fuck i hate graston
3/14/13 6:15 PM
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Arghh that looks painful . . . .

How many treatments like this have you had?  Have you already noticed improvement, or are you going to need to make it through dozens of these applications?

3/14/13 6:36 PM
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Gotta love 93' Til Infinity in the background
3/14/13 6:40 PM
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TheBlackFist - so is this stuff legit? looks pretty dubious to me
Wikipedia suggests results are dubious. Phone Post
3/14/13 6:40 PM
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it breaks up scar tissue to allow it heal better among other things
3/14/13 6:42 PM
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3/14/13 6:43 PM
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What if I did that to a vagina? Would it be able to take more of a pounding? Phone Post
3/14/13 6:47 PM
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Fuuuuuuuck! That hurt just watching. Heal up quick j lau! Phone Post
3/14/13 6:56 PM
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Did he at least numb it first or no?
3/14/13 6:56 PM
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Joe, can't you get surgery to clean that out instead? Or at least get a local injection there right before all the digging?
3/14/13 7:17 PM
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Damn that's gnarly. Thanks for sharing, Joe.
3/14/13 7:25 PM
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Wow, that looked painful.

Can't wait to see one of my favorite fighters back in the cage!

3/14/13 7:30 PM
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The shirt and unprofessional feel made me curious enough to wiki it. One of the critical wiki links is pretty brutal, although this write up appears to be a physician's blog and in no way a journal.

Still this is interesting, and if anyone wants the link

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-graston-technique-inducing-microtrauma-with-instruments/
3/14/13 7:31 PM
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I'd go with Diaz's choice to surgically remove the scar tissue any day
3/14/13 7:32 PM
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New chiropractor has used that shit on my feet and a couple fingers, and it absolutely sucks. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like on my forehead, I'm envisioning one of the worst miseries humanly possible.
3/14/13 8:16 PM
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MattyECB - The shirt and unprofessional feel made me curious enough to wiki it. One of the critical wiki links is pretty brutal, although this write up appears to be a physician's blog and in no way a journal.

Still this is interesting, and if anyone wants the link

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-graston-technique-inducing-microtrauma-with-instruments/

Thank you. The article is very well done and should be a template for everyone on the UG of what to look for when evaluating medical/scientific information. They cite peer reviewed literature, and are extremely skeptical of biased and unprofessional sources, yet not overtly biased themselves in looking for an answer (e.g. "I would be very happy if the Graston Technique proves useful, but for the time being it must be considered experimental.").

Your analysis of the article and actually providing a link to it should be commended as well.
3/14/13 8:21 PM
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I didn't read the primary article on the rat study, but also funny that the recap says it induced fibroblast proliferation, which themselves are the cell type which cause scar tissue. So this paper supposedly supporting Graston could just as easily be used to argue that it potentially makes scar tissue worse.

*it should be noted they say the experiment in rats was done using a joint injury model, an area where connective tissue is more likely to be good, as opposed to Joe Lauzon's forehead, where connective tissue = scar tissue.
3/14/13 8:31 PM
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Also, I just skimmed through the video, but it looks like it is partially re-opening the original cut? That seems like a terrible idea, but do they offer some explanation?
3/14/13 10:33 PM
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Joe Lauzon
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Arghh that looks painful . . . .

How many treatments like this have you had?  Have you already noticed improvement, or are you going to need to make it through dozens of these applications?


3 intense ones... then a couple easier ones. Big changes since we started the intense ones. 

3/14/13 10:34 PM
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Joe Lauzon
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MattyECB - The shirt and unprofessional feel made me curious enough to wiki it. One of the critical wiki links is pretty brutal, although this write up appears to be a physician's blog and in no way a journal.

Still this is interesting, and if anyone wants the link

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-graston-technique-inducing-microtrauma-with-instruments/

He is the PT for the Worcester Sharks... thus the shirt. 

3/14/13 10:34 PM
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Joe Lauzon
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UGCTT croy_00 - Did he at least numb it first or no?

hah... no. 

3/14/13 10:54 PM
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I thought it was gonna open up again the way he was working it... Phone Post
3/14/13 11:13 PM
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Brutal.
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