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3/15/13 9:56 AM
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Cornered by persistent questions about drug testing in the UFC, Dana White said his current goal is to eradicate exemptions for testosterone replacement therapy.

"Then when you show up for a fight, the state athletic commissions will do their testing however they do their testing," White said following a pre-event news conference for UFC 158, which takes place Saturday at Montreal's Bell Centre.

"If you ask for a TRT exemption, you are going to be tested brutally," White said.

"We're focusing on the things that we can manage," White said, later adding that he would also test any fighter suspected of PED use.

At this point, that means making TRT an unattractive option for fighters without a legitimate medical need for it.

"This is baby steps," White said. "I don't just come out and say, 'Here's what I'd like all the athletic commissions to do across the country.' I don't know how many times I have to tell you guys, they don't give a f--k what I think. They regulate me.

"It's very easy for me to go with the flow on TRT: 'Hey, commission says it's fine.' I'm against it. But there's only so much you can do."

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3/15/13 10:03 AM
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Dana also says it is "impossible" for the UFC to do random testing throughout the year...so I take his words with a BIG grain of salt. Phone Post
3/15/13 11:12 AM
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easedel - Won't happen, at least banning TRT. Lawsuits would be flying out the ass i would think due to the ADA

I doubt this very much.

I am not an employment lawyer (though I am a lawyer), but suggesting that the UFC's banning of TRT would result in actionable claims under the ADA strikes me as very unlikely.

Firstly, the fighters are independent contractors, not employees.  I expect that makes a difference.  The ADA does not compel me to pave my back yard so a wheelchair bound independent contractor can build my deck. 

Second, a bit of research online reveals that a "qualified individual with a disability" under the ADA is "a person who meets legitimate skill, experience, education, or other requirements of an employment position that s/he holds or seeks, and who can perform the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable accommodation."  I'd eat my hat if a judge ever ruled that a "reasonable accomodation" for a professional fighter is injecting testosterone. 

I think the reason the UFC is resisting outright banning TRT is because they believe some of their stars currently (and in the future) may likely be actual, legitimate candidates.  Like Dan Henderson.  I also think the UFC knows that some of its current stars may not quite be legitimate candidates, but it doesn't want to lose them if their bodies have simply become too used to the supplementation.  Like Chael Sonnen. 

3/15/13 12:31 PM
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Amazing this topic falls off, but chicks who had dicks and stupid managers of fighters stays right at the top. Phone Post
3/15/13 2:45 PM
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easedel - Won't happen, at least banning TRT. Lawsuits would be flying out the ass i would think due to the ADA

I doubt this very much.

I am not an employment lawyer (though I am a lawyer), but suggesting that the UFC's banning of TRT would result in actionable claims under the ADA strikes me as very unlikely.

Firstly, the fighters are independent contractors, not employees.  I expect that makes a difference.  The ADA does not compel me to pave my back yard so a wheelchair bound independent contractor can build my deck. 

Second, a bit of research online reveals that a "qualified individual with a disability" under the ADA is "a person who meets legitimate skill, experience, education, or other requirements of an employment position that s/he holds or seeks, and who can perform the essential functions of the position with or without reasonable accommodation."  I'd eat my hat if a judge ever ruled that a "reasonable accomodation" for a professional fighter is injecting testosterone. 

I think the reason the UFC is resisting outright banning TRT is because they believe some of their stars currently (and in the future) may likely be actual, legitimate candidates.  Like Dan Henderson.  I also think the UFC knows that some of its current stars may not quite be legitimate candidates, but it doesn't want to lose them if their bodies have simply become too used to the supplementation.  Like Chael Sonnen. 


There's a lot of good points in this post.
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA - Amazing this topic falls off, but chicks who had dicks and stupid managers of fighters stays right at the top. Phone Post
At least the UG blog made a thread about it this time Phone Post

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