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3/18/13 5:33 PM
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Everybody has always been 100% sure they would beat GSP...
That's the point.
3/18/13 5:34 PM
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bjjdna - lol at the nonfight knowing Askren haters.

Askren would take down GSP/Diaz/etc/etc and win the control/position game against ANY ww in the division

Nobody at the WW division will be able to stop Ben's TDs, and once you're on the ground with Ben, there is little chance you're gonna get back up.

It's simple...if you fight Ben, you're gonna get taken down and beat down. Every fighter knows his game and NOBODY can stop it.
Yeah, unlike every other wrestler GSP faced who was supposed to be like that.

Some people refuse to learn. Phone Post
3/18/13 5:41 PM
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bjjdna - lol at the nonfight knowing Askren haters.

Askren would take down GSP/Diaz/etc/etc and win the control/position game against ANY ww in the division

Nobody at the WW division will be able to stop Ben's TDs, and once you're on the ground with Ben, there is little chance you're gonna get back up.

It's simple...if you fight Ben, you're gonna get taken down and beat down. Every fighter knows his game and NOBODY can stop it.
Yeah, unlike every other wrestler GSP faced who was supposed to be like that.

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Nooooo...

There is a BIG difference in the skill set from Div 1 All American level and International level wrestling.

Kos and Johny are GREAT wrestlers, and GSP has GREAT wrestling for MMA, but none will out grapple Ben.

Ben has ELITE level wrestling and will put GSP on his ass.
3/18/13 5:42 PM
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askren for a beatin?

3/18/13 5:58 PM
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bjjdna - lol at the nonfight knowing Askren haters.

Askren would take down GSP/Diaz/etc/etc and win the control/position game against ANY ww in the division

Nobody at the WW division will be able to stop Ben's TDs, and once you're on the ground with Ben, there is little chance you're gonna get back up.

It's simple...if you fight Ben, you're gonna get taken down and beat down. Every fighter knows his game and NOBODY can stop it.

Jay Hieron was able to stuff quite a few of Askren's takedowns but no one in the WW division in the UFC would be able to?

Come on dude.
3/18/13 6:03 PM
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bjjdna - lol at the nonfight knowing Askren haters.

Askren would take down GSP/Diaz/etc/etc and win the control/position game against ANY ww in the division

Nobody at the WW division will be able to stop Ben's TDs, and once you're on the ground with Ben, there is little chance you're gonna get back up.

It's simple...if you fight Ben, you're gonna get taken down and beat down. Every fighter knows his game and NOBODY can stop it.
Yeah, unlike every other wrestler GSP faced who was supposed to be like that.

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Nooooo...

There is a BIG difference in the skill set from Div 1 All American level and International level wrestling.

Kos and Johny are GREAT wrestlers, and GSP has GREAT wrestling for MMA, but none will out grapple Ben.

Ben has ELITE level wrestling and will put GSP on his ass.
In a wrestling match, he probably would. This is MMA. GSP has more than enough tdd to be very difficult to take to the ground. Combine that with the fact that his striking is far superior to Askren's, and Ben has zero keys to victory here. Phone Post
3/18/13 6:06 PM
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HereticMMA - Lol... This is why is sucks Bellator didn't sign Fitch. It would be so great to see him out wrestle Askren.

yeah fitch was an ok wrestler, Askren world class. That said, Fitch would probably light him up standing.
3/18/13 6:12 PM
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3/18/13 6:18 PM
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3/18/13 6:29 PM
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bjjdna - lol at the nonfight knowing Askren haters.

Askren would take down GSP/Diaz/etc/etc and win the control/position game against ANY ww in the division

Nobody at the WW division will be able to stop Ben's TDs, and once you're on the ground with Ben, there is little chance you're gonna get back up.

It's simple...if you fight Ben, you're gonna get taken down and beat down. Every fighter knows his game and NOBODY can stop it.

Jay Hieron was able to stuff quite a few of Askren's takedowns but no one in the WW division in the UFC would be able to?

Come on dude.

Jay is a good hs state champ level wrestler. Ben took him down and controlled him 3/5 rounds.

Nobody in MMA has a better grappling game than Ben. Ben's elite level wrestling and bb level bjj will be a tough combo to beat

Eventually Ben's gonna put you on your back, and once there, you're gonna stay there.

Once Ben's striking game improves to the point where he can effectively close the distance without putting his chin at high risk from that reaching with his hands down lunge thing he does, Ben will be unstoppable
3/18/13 6:46 PM
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GSP will be retired by the time this blanket ever gets a chance in the UFC
3/18/13 7:02 PM
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3/18/13 7:06 PM
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3/18/13 7:06 PM
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GSP by faaaaaaaaar superior stand up. Askren would look n feel like pudding by nights end. Phone Post
3/18/13 7:07 PM
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I enjoyed bens last fight, he pushed hard and did some serious ground and pound.

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3/18/13 7:13 PM
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Umm, lol!! GSP could beat Mr. Askren using his jab alone.
3/18/13 7:17 PM
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bjjdna - lol at the nonfight knowing Askren haters.

Askren would take down GSP/Diaz/etc/etc and win the control/position game against ANY ww in the division

Nobody at the WW division will be able to stop Ben's TDs, and once you're on the ground with Ben, there is little chance you're gonna get back up.

It's simple...if you fight Ben, you're gonna get taken down and beat down. Every fighter knows his game and NOBODY can stop it.

LOL

I would bet 100k that GSP wrecks Askren. 5 rounds of domination.

When GSP is like 50 years old...Askren may well have a chance.

...and you would loose that bet

Winning fights for grapplers/bjj guys is about closing the distance, taking the fight to the ground, gaining and maintaining position, and beating your opponent down until he is physically exhausted and mentally broken (see Ben's last fight).

In Ben's last fight he showed tremendous improvment in his g&p game. He was punching from good posture/position and with power compared to his previous fights.

Gaining and maintaining position wins fights. Positional dominance round after round impacts a fighters psyche and takes away any realistic hope for victory.

Position/control is Ben's game; he's spent a lifetime becoming the best in the world at it; he's only going to get better and better; and GSP will suffer a beatdown if they fight.

Ben's gonna keep winning, and if Dana has any balls he will make this fight happen. Personally I don't see Dana making Ben a big offer after Ben's contract expires. Dana will make up some bullshit excuse about Ben being boring in order to save his UFC poster boys from being BEAT DOWN by a Bellator champ

LOL. I would most certainly win.

You are amusing, but completely unconvincing.

I would certainly put 100K on GSP if he fought Askren. We can certainly have a bet. If 100K is too much, I will settle for a mere 10K.
3/18/13 7:19 PM
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Ben "The blanket" Askren vs George "The comforter" St Pierre Phone Post
3/18/13 9:48 PM
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Fitting that they're both blankets, that fight would put everyone to sleep

3/18/13 9:55 PM
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3/18/13 10:42 PM
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So I guess that means 100% of the people who think Ben Askren can 100% beat GSP are named Ben Askren. Phone Post
3/18/13 10:44 PM
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lol and ASkrn doesn't get tired? All he does is grapple and by the end of the 3rd round he usually is inactive

3/18/13 11:25 PM
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Both are very interesting fighters. Ben has more funky moves, but he's way too small, slow and weak for GSP.
3/18/13 11:42 PM
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Ben arsecream couldn't fight sleep!! Phone Post
3/19/13 5:46 AM
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lol, Dana needs to feed this guy to Kos, a guy on decline who needs a win bad, this is the fight, shot fighter beats bellators golden boy

askren is a good wrestler, but he wont get a title shot in the UFC, too many good WW he cant beat, he gets punked worse than lombard

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