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3/18/13 11:18 PM
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Cesar Gracie apeared Monday on Ariel Helwani's The MMA Hour and discussed Nick Diaz. Gracie is both long-time manager and trainer to the controversial welterweight.

At the UFC 158 post-fight press conference Diaz said he had never paid taxes, and was probably going to jail as a result. The remarks made it past the MMA space, and onto the front page of Yahoo.

Gracie said he believed Diaz had in fact paid his taxes, even overpaid, but that there were clearly some organizational issues that had to be addressed.

"I think he misspoke," said Gracie. "It's about filing. When I talked to Nick a couple of years ago it was about some tax issue he was having."

"He has paid taxes. I think he misspoke. It's about filing... He's not in any trouble that we're aware of. We haven't gotten any notices or anything."

"It's kind of weird for me to speak about stuff like that Because when we talk about fighting, it's fighting, but when you talk about taxes, hey, I'm not an accountant, obviously and that's a man's personal business. But, since he alluded to it, people have been texting me worried about it. It's fine. He has paid taxes. That's the weird thing. He would pay the tax, and probably even more than he owed, I think, in the past few years... So he has paid hundreds of thousands in taxes... I think his issue is he needs to properly file.

"He's got to get together with a good accountant and get his stuff in order like everybody else."

"For him to even bring that up after a fight was kind of off the wall."

A Canada based attorney Jonathan Tweedale said he had a personal relationship with Diaz, and offered a slightly different assessment of the mess.

"Nick thought Cesar was taking care of (taxes) for him, and Cesar wasn't," said Tweedale. "It doesn't mean Nick is screwed, but it does mean things need to be figured out."

Cesar however said he did not manage Diaz's money, and said Tweedale does not represent Diaz. Further, Gracie said he had previously referred Nick to several accountants.

"He never went to see them," said Gracie. "His girlfriend and his previous girlfriend have taken him to see CPAs. What they did with that is none of my business.

"He's a grown man."

Gracie was conspicuously absent from Diaz's corner, but Cesar explained his absence was due to a minor paperwork issue only.

"What happened was, I got there kind of late the day before," said Gracie. "I missed the meeting with the commission out there and they wanted everybody there. They were kind of sweating Nick and those guys about me. I put my paperwork in much earlier, obviously. And, I've never dealt with the Montreal commission before, so all of a sudden they said, ‘he's got to be here to do this and that.' They needed a picture or something like that. So, unfortunately for us, Nate didn't have that. So I brought my cousin out there, Kron Gracie. He has a fight coming up, so he needed to train while he was out there. So he brought him out there and he was just going to watch because Nate doesn't like to corner his brother that much. And they switched it up real quick, that's what happened."

On the subject of Diaz retiring, Gracie said he was not sure, but added that Diaz was motivated by big fights.

"I never listen to anybody after a fight. I've been in this sport for many years, before it was a sport. The emotional level is so high after a fight. And there's so many things that you're thinking in a different way than what you're going to think the day after a fight or the week after a fight. That's why I think these fighters shouldn't retire in a ring. Do it before a fight or after a fight. Everything is up to Nick. I kind of understand his mentality. If he has to fight young guys who haven't put their time in the UFC or MMA, it's not motivational to Nick. He wants big fights. Like, guys in the news that people are talking about. He wants big fights to motivate himself."

Gracie also said Georges St-Pierre was suspiciously aware of Nick's techniques and strategy.

"GSP really knew the moves that Nick was going to do from bottom," said Gracie. "It was kind of interesting. Nick does stuff that's very unique. Stuff that he does in grappling, but he doesn't necessarily do it in fighting.

"It was like 'wait a minute, that guy is one step ahead, like he knows exactly what."

"It was kind of odd. Like someone, somewhere from our team, not a current member, but I don't know. It's just one of those things, but whatever. I don't want to make that an issue at all."

The remarks parallel comments Diaz made in the Octagon to commentator Joe Rogan.

"I don't know how he knew what I was gonna do," said Diaz. "I don't want to make excuses... He blocked the kneebar, he blocked the roll... I don't know how he saw that coming. It was kind of funny."

So what do you think UG? Glad it wasn't the IRS pulling him over last night?


3/18/13 11:20 PM
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Have not read but that seems like an awkward thing to say Phone Post
3/18/13 11:23 PM
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Well then who the fuck is lying Phone Post
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Organized camp, those guys
3/18/13 11:24 PM
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So isntead of inquiring what he needed for the Quebec commission he shows up late and when there are differences it's their fault.

 

Idiot.

3/18/13 11:27 PM
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3/18/13 11:29 PM
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"I don't know how he knew what I was gonna do," said Diaz. "I don't want to make excuses... He blocked the kneebar, he blocked the roll... I don't know how he saw that coming. It was kind of funny."

Maybe you're not the first guy to try a knee bar from a turtle position?

3/18/13 11:29 PM
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Per Ben Fowlkes:

"The next opponent for Nick Diaz is not the Internal Revenue Service, but he probably needs to get a certified public accountant in his corner.

The recent UFC welterweight title challenger, who lost to champion Georges St-Pierre on Saturday in UFC 158, might need to file past tax returns, said his longtime manager, Cesar Gracie.

Diaz, who initially shirked UFC 158's post-event news conference before showing up late, perked up ears when, in the midst of a rambling assessment of his performance, he claimed he had never paid U.S. income taxes.

Gracie, who also trains Diaz, said the fighter misspoke and that Diaz has paid more than $100,000 to the government in the last two years.

"Nick is a little crazy, but he has paid taxes," Gracie told USA TODAY Sports on Monday.

Jonathan Tweedale, a Canada-based lawyer claiming to have a personal relationship with Diaz, offered a different explanation.

"Nick thought Cesar (Gracie) was taking care of (taxes) for him, and Cesar wasn't," he said. "It doesn't mean Nick is screwed, but it does mean things need to be figured out."

Gracie countered that he never managed Diaz's money and dismissed Tweedale, whom he said does not represent Diaz. He did, however, say he referred the 29-year-old fighter to several accountants.

"He never went to see them," Gracie said. "His girlfriend and his previous girlfriend have taken him to see CPAs. What they did with that is none of my business.

"He's a grown man."

Still, the verbal slip was the latest turn in the roller-coaster ride of Diaz, who could not be reached for comment. Diaz made headlines before the fight by missing UFC 158's open workouts, which he blamed on a late flight and lack of sleep.

He then cast doubt on his ability to pass a postfight drug test because of his well-documented marijuana use. UFC President Dana White said he'd probably release Diaz with a drug test failure, which would be his third.

After the fight, Diaz said he would retire, then challenged St-Pierre to a rematch. He tweeted pictures of himself next to a cop car on Sunday, but while two passengers in the car he was riding in were arrested for separate charges after a traffic stop, Diaz was not among them.

But still, what a weekend.

"He should have never made that statement," Gracie said. "He should have just gotten an accountant and paid his taxes. He made a lot of money for this fight. Just get yourself squared away, bro. You're there for a fight. You're going to start talking about taxes? It's like, huh?"

The Régie des alcools des courses et des jeux (Quebec's athletic commission), which oversaw UFC 158 at Montreal's Bell Centre, does not release fight purses. Diaz, however, is expected to profit well from sharing a pay-per-view event with St-Pierre, who is the UFC's biggest PPV draw."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ufc/2013/03/18/-ufc-fighter-nick-diaz-tax-comments/1998249/
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"I don't know how he knew what I was gonna do," said Diaz. "I don't want to make excuses... He blocked the kneebar, he blocked the roll... I don't know how he saw that coming. It was kind of funny."

Maybe you're not the first guy to try a knee bar from a turtle position?


Jesus the stupid transparent excuses.

"I don't want to cry but WAAAAAAAAAAH"

 

A kneebar and a roll are revolutionary Ceasar? Really? These guys really don't look at other fighters and camps much do they?

3/18/13 11:31 PM
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Ok sounds to me like two totally unorganized people running a multi million dollar corporation into the ground. Whacky it is for sure

3/18/13 11:33 PM
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Condit used the roll to get the fight back to guard with GSP and he did it better.

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LOL.." Nick pays taxes he... Just doesn't file".
That's how you pay your taxes.. You file them! Phone Post
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ChaosOverkill -

Condit used the roll to get the fight back to guard with GSP and he did it better.

And even he keeps the conspiracy theory alive.. Nick's amazing roll and kneebar that no man on earth could possibly know cuz it was taught to them only last month by Steven Seagal. Phone Post
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"Kneebar? That's some 1998 shit, nobody wins with those anymore"

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Who is the last fighter to make even one excuse after losing to GSP?

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Condit used the roll to get the fight back to guard with GSP and he did it better.

Exactly, everytime they bring up that shit it just makes them look worse. I mean what the fuck is up with GSP knowing how to defend that..surely he's never seen that in all his years fighting. It IS weird now that I think about it. Phone Post
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"The commission was against me cornering, that's why my fighter lost WAAAAAAAH"

 

-How about how Nick complained his camp under you SUCKED Ceasar gonna address that?

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Didn't Nick buy a house? Tough to get a mortgage without showing previous years tax filings I'd think, that whole proof of income thing.
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Kron is informing on them, he really IS Braulio's friend. I SMELL A COVERUP!!
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I really think this camp lives under a rock and refuses to look into what the other top guys are coming up with and think they can figure it all out by themselves because they are geniuses and everyone else is stupid.

GSP probably watches a week worth of tape on random fighters doing new things in their fights. 

 

Take the army's motto Ceasar and swallow your fucking pride "Improvise, overcome, adapt"

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