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3/20/13 12:04 AM
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I'd rather watch mma.
3/20/13 12:40 AM
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SMELLDE flagged with vtfu's for elevated levels of INSIDER INFORMATION

3/20/13 2:10 AM
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Hope the UFC doesn't cut Lavar because of this. His fights are usually enjoyable
3/20/13 2:32 AM
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GNC really needs to filter what their selling. This is out of control. Phone Post
3/20/13 2:38 AM
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3/20/13 5:14 AM
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SMELLDE flagged with vtfu's for elevated levels of INSIDER INFORMATION


Thanks bud!

3/20/13 5:15 AM
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BigSleep - damn, no wacky GIF to tell the story? You are slipping SG!

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Motherfucker. No Froman????????????????


I'm sorry dude. This was just one photo from the future UG met n' greet.

3/20/13 5:28 AM
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What's with the double standard mma fans seem to have? Alot of people here don't seem to want this guy to get cut. Then go and post in another thread complaining about PEDs and fighters who use them in another thread...

Make your mind up.
3/20/13 5:36 AM
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FSMA - "confirmed the testosterone was consistent with the administration of a steroid"

This is the stuff that I don't like. Of course people know what happened BUT if they didn't find whatever it is that is banned/illegal a person should get away with it imo.
 

I hope you're joking. The steroid is synthetic testosterone.

depends on what the levels were.. Steroids do raise your levels much higher than just talking Test. Cyp. unless you are pumping that shit in with a fuel pump
No they dont, they crash your test. Thats why people stack them with test.

Also, how could the AC determine his test levels from a urine sample? This story makes no sense. Phone Post

I was also confused by this.

In the article, it states,

"Foster clarified that the initial failure was not due to an elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) level, but could not provide further details on Johnson's failure at the time of this writing."

His total testosterone level would only be accurately measured through blood tests which I thought they didn't use unless one has a TUE to undergo TRT or if he popped before (Overeem by the NSAC).

I also thought the CSAC didn't administer a CIR test unless a fighter had a T/E ratio over the allowed threshold so I don't think that was the test that initially raised suspicion.

 

Total levels of a testosterone metabolite ARE tested.  And this is done to flag users who also administer epitestosterone to cheat the T/E test.  (not suggested Lavar was doing this)

 

 

However the threshhold for this test is pretty high due to natural differences, metabolism rates, and hydration levels. 

3/20/13 5:46 AM
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voted up!
3/20/13 6:02 AM
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Thanks BigSleep!

3/20/13 6:28 AM
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FSMA - "confirmed the testosterone was consistent with the administration of a steroid"

This is the stuff that I don't like. Of course people know what happened BUT if they didn't find whatever it is that is banned/illegal a person should get away with it imo.
 

I hope you're joking. The steroid is synthetic testosterone.

depends on what the levels were.. Steroids do raise your levels much higher than just talking Test. Cyp. unless you are pumping that shit in with a fuel pump
No they dont, they crash your test. Thats why people stack them with test.

Also, how could the AC determine his test levels from a urine sample? This story makes no sense. Phone Post

I was also confused by this.

In the article, it states,

"Foster clarified that the initial failure was not due to an elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) level, but could not provide further details on Johnson's failure at the time of this writing."

His total testosterone level would only be accurately measured through blood tests which I thought they didn't use unless one has a TUE to undergo TRT or if he popped before (Overeem by the NSAC).

I also thought the CSAC didn't administer a CIR test unless a fighter had a T/E ratio over the allowed threshold so I don't think that was the test that initially raised suspicion.

 

Total levels of a testosterone metabolite ARE tested.  And this is done to flag users who also administer epitestosterone to cheat the T/E test.  (not suggested Lavar was doing this)

 

 

However the threshhold for this test is pretty high due to natural differences, metabolism rates, and hydration levels. 

Interesting, didnt know this was possible- i know that you know whats you're talking about so i believe it tho. Phone Post
3/20/13 6:58 AM
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3/20/13 7:00 AM
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3/20/13 9:21 AM
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FSMA - "confirmed the testosterone was consistent with the administration of a steroid"

This is the stuff that I don't like. Of course people know what happened BUT if they didn't find whatever it is that is banned/illegal a person should get away with it imo.


I hope you're joking. The steroid is synthetic testosterone.

depends on what the levels were.. Steroids do raise your levels much higher than just talking Test. Cyp. unless you are pumping that shit in with a fuel pump
No they dont, they crash your test. Thats why people stack them with test.

Also, how could the AC determine his test levels from a urine sample? This story makes no sense. Phone Post
They are talking about his t/e ratio being elevated, they are just using shitty wording. Phone Post
3/20/13 9:23 AM
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Kinda scary if they can not get the wording correct if you think about it.
3/20/13 10:11 AM
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The two pictures of Lavar and The Rock and mixed up lol
3/20/13 10:26 AM
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this whole steroid debate is a tough thing. on one hand, its not fair to the fighters that take the noble choice to stay clean. but on the other, many 'dirty' fighters are just trying to keep their bills paid and their children fed.

I hope Lavar doesn't get cut for this. If he did, you couldnt blame the UFC. it is what it is
3/20/13 11:44 AM
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Pay your bills and feed your kids with another job if you can't perform at this one without cheating.

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3/20/13 1:50 PM
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3/20/13 5:44 PM
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got some more info, apparently his testostorone levels weren't elevated, UFC tests for T/E levels now? And that was slightly higher then from his last fight, they check your previous fights to match. 

I know he was sick as a dog a week before the fight, maybe it was from prescription medication.

3/21/13 2:48 PM
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3/21/13 3:00 PM
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According to John Morgan, "Kizer said he was told Lavar's initial elevated level was 6.2:1 T/E ratio, triggering the CIR test." even though in the article in the OP stated, "Foster clarified that the initial failure was not due to an elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) level".

The T/E ratio threshold in CA is 4:1.

So which one is it?
3/21/13 3:11 PM
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DonFreedomFrye - According to John Morgan, "Kizer said he was told Lavar's initial elevated level was 6.2:1 T/E ratio, triggering the CIR test." even though in the article in the OP stated, "Foster clarified that the initial failure was not due to an elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) level".

The T/E ratio threshold in CA is 4:1.

So which one is it?

Guess he made a mistake in cycling. Next time he'll time and dose it right.
3/21/13 4:06 PM
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his Testosterone levels weren't even high..can antibiotics increase the T/E levels?


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