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3/20/13 5:42 AM
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http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/familys-home-raided-over-facebook-photo-of-childs-rifle.html

Holy fecking feck....Game over friends...
3/20/13 5:48 AM
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Family’s Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child’s Rifle

Family's Home Raided over Facebook Photo of Child's Rifle

Mar 19, 2013

By Todd Starnes

New Jersey police and Dept. of Children and Families officials raided the home of a firearms instructor and demanded to see his guns after he posted a Facebook photo of his 11-year-old son holding a rifle.

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“Someone called family services about the photo,” said Evan Nappen, an attorney representing Shawn Moore. “It led to an incredible, heavy-handed raid on his house. They wanted to see his gun safe, his guns and search his house. They even threatened to take his kids.”

Moore was not arrested or charged.

This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.

This is the Facebook photo that led to the police raid.

A Dept. of Children and Families spokesperson told Fox News they could not confirm or deny an investigation or raid had taken place due to government regulations.

“The department has a child abuse hotline for the state of New Jersey and anybody can make a call to that hotline,” spokesperson Kristen Brown said. “We are required to follow up on every single allegation that comes into the central registry.”

Moore, of Carneys Point, is a certified firearms instructor for the National Rifle Association, an NRA range safety officer and a New Jersey hunter education instructor.

He recently posted a photograph of his son wearing camouflage and holding his new .22 rifle. The child has a New Jersey hunting license and recently passed the state’s hunter safety course.

“If you look at the picture, his finger isn’t even on the trigger – which is proper,” Nappen told Fox News. “If half of Hollywood could follow that rule we’d be thankful.”

Brown said their role is not to go out and search Facebook for photos of children holding weapons.

“In general our role is to investigate allegations of child abuse and neglect,” she said.

The family’s trouble started Saturday night when Moore received an urgent text message from his wife. The Carneys Point Police Dept. and the New Jersey Dept. of Children and Families had raided their home.

Moore immediately called Nappen and rushed home to find officers demanding to check his guns and his gun safe.

Instead, he handed the cell phone to one of the officers – so they could speak with Nappen.

“If you have a warrant, you’re coming in,” Nappen told the officers. “If you don’t, then you’re not. That’s what privacy is all about.”

With his attorney on speaker phone, Moore instructed the officers to leave his home.

“I was told I was being unreasonable and that I was acting suspicious because I wouldn’t open my safe,” Moore wrote on the Delaware Open Carry website. “They told me they were going to get a search warrant. I told them to go ahead.”

Moore took this photo of police outside his home.

Moore took this photo of police outside his home.

Nappen told Fox News the police wanted to inventory his firearms.

“”We said no way, it’s not happening,” he said. “This is a guy who is completely credentialed and his son is also credentialed.”

The attorney said police eventually left and never returned.

“He has a Fourth Amendment right and he’s not going to give up his Fourth Amendment right or his Second Amendment right,” he said. “They didn’t have a warrant – so see you later.”

Brown told Fox News that it’s “prudent and wise to protect children.”

“In many cases we may follow up on something and we don’t find any problems and the case is closed,” she said.

But the person who reported the false allegations of abuse cannot be held liable, she noted.

“You can’t be prosecuted for making an allegation of child abuse –even if it’s false,” she said.

Nappen said what happened to the Moore family should serve as a warning to gun owners across the nation.

“To make someone go through this because he posted a picture of his son with a .22 rifle on his Facebook page is pretty outrageous,” he said. “Does that mean that anyone who posts a picture like that has to consent to a home inspection and a gun inspection? I don’t think so.”

Nappen said they are considering taking legal action against the state for the late night raid.

3/20/13 5:48 AM
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that is full fucktup

3/20/13 8:48 AM
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The government has your best interest in mind with guns.

And this child is being taught to be evil.
3/20/13 9:44 AM
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I have a Filipino friend back home in California who had a similiar situation at his house, except it was the ATF kicking in his door.

My friend and his brother have a lot of pictures of all their firearms on facebooks. I don't know why, but they do. And I mean a lot, of firepower. It's not the smartest thing to do, but everything is legit and registered, it's what they like to do with their money.

ATF raided his house, had him at gun point, they handcuffed him in front of his kids, took him into the police vehicle, they took all his firearms (to make everything was legit and registered). Then they questioned him how he could afford it and whether everything was legit. They treated him like a criminal, his are still confused and scared about the situation. The neighbors all look at him like he's a criminal, he's embarrassed to live in the neighbor now cause of the way they all look at him and his family.

Pretty fak'd up situation. I don't opened the door for anybody I'm not expecting to come over. No Cops, neighbors, or Mormons/Church people!!!
3/20/13 9:48 AM
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People think I'm fak'd up when I talk about training my 11 year old daughter how to shoot a weapon. After the Sandyhook conspiracy, she asked me about all that stuff. I'd rather have her know how to protect herself and know how to use a gun, than have a misconception and be scared of guns.

Plus I need a backup triggerman to help me take out the zombies cause lord knows I can't count on the Mrs.
3/20/13 1:56 PM
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there's a perch 150 yards away in the wooded hills from my house w/ a clear look at my driveway and front door. shtf, my offspring are there cleaning.
3/20/13 2:21 PM
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COME AT ME BRO! Phone Post
4/3/13 8:42 AM
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That's why  facebook  is evil.  Among  other reasons.

4/3/13 10:35 AM
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I dumped facebook three months ago and couldn't be happier about it!
4/3/13 12:05 PM
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i should too soon!

4/3/13 1:22 PM
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It's an outlet for my crazy..... And my attention whoring.

I'm sorry!!!! Phone Post 3.0
4/6/13 11:23 PM
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Blows my mind that we are worried about the law abiding owning guns when Pea Dough walks as a free man in largo florida...

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