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3/20/13 12:55 PM
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kanotoa
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Almost everyone I have talked to told me thqt punching power is something you are born with. Why is this so? Is it some fast twitch muscles that you have like a baseball pitchers?

I have seen some fighters improve their power with a lot of training but most of their power seems to come with timing and countering their opponent, also luck.

Do you think a pillow puncher could become a one punch fighter with enough training? Phone Post
3/20/13 1:05 PM
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Freddie Gavaria
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Well didn't Freddie Roach just say that Shogun hit like a girl, but now that he has shown him how to punch properly hes got real power in his hands? 

3/20/13 1:10 PM
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You can teach someone to hit harder but some people just know how to lay the hammer down fight time. Anyone can look like a champ on the pads/heavy bag, it's a whole different thing to do it in a fight. Phone Post
3/20/13 1:11 PM
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Of course it can be developed.
Anderson and Hendo have gotten a lot more powerful in their late 30s
3/20/13 1:12 PM
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It absolutely can be learned, but each person has different limits. You can't learn the kind of soul-crushing power that guys like Johnny Hendricks or Dan Henderson have, but you can learn to greatly improve whatever power you naturally possess.
3/20/13 1:15 PM
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To a point it's learned, bone density and natural mass distribution play a large role Phone Post
3/20/13 1:22 PM
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You can certainly learn to punch harder and increase your chances of landing a KO. You aren't going to go from punching like a 6 year old school girl to a prime Mike Tyson, but you can learn the proper technique and timing that will increase your power and increase your chances of landing a KO.

The "born with" thing is hyperbole. Yes, some people do naturally punch harder than other people, just like some people naturally run faster than other people. That doesn't mean you can't train your body to run faster than someone who naturally runs faster than you. Again, you can't morph into Mike Tyson, but you can definitely increase power. Phone Post
3/20/13 1:24 PM
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Floyd Mayeather has been doing nothing but punch since he came out of the womb.  

He can fully dive his entire body into a punch and land right on his opponents AS THEY ARE THROWING, yet still not phasing them 1 bit.   Same with Paulie.  Same with Tim Bradley.

 

Then you have guys like Lucas Mathysse and Keith Thurman.

 

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I won't say "VTFU when I get to a computer later!" because that's seriously gay. Phone Post
3/20/13 1:24 PM
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BernardHopkins - id compare punching to any other explosive movements.

vertical leap is one. most guys in the NBA train and practice together, doing the same stuff day in and out. Some have amazing verticals and others have average. you can increase anything you want with proper training, but some people start out much higher naturally than others, and of course everyone has limits.


First off I would like to say thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to post on this forum, champ. Big win the other week, you shocked the world again.

Second, great analogy.
3/20/13 1:25 PM
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T Bag - Of course it can be developed.
Anderson and Hendo have gotten a lot more powerful in their late 30s
Late 30's you gain dad strength. Totally different. Phone Post
3/20/13 1:47 PM
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I always assumed knockouts were more about shot placement than power. Phone Post
3/20/13 1:53 PM
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BadMon -

Floyd Mayeather has been doing nothing but punch since he came out of the womb.  

He can fully dive his entire body into a punch and land right on his opponents AS THEY ARE THROWING, yet still not phasing them 1 bit.   Same with Paulie.  Same with Tim Bradley.

 

Then you have guys like Lucas Mathysse and Keith Thurman.

 

Thx for the dope gifs.

I won't say "VTFU when I get to a computer later!" because that's seriously gay. Phone Post
VTFU when I get to a computer! Phone Post
3/20/13 1:55 PM
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BadMon -

Floyd Mayeather has been doing nothing but punch since he came out of the womb.  

He can fully dive his entire body into a punch and land right on his opponents AS THEY ARE THROWING, yet still not phasing them 1 bit.   Same with Paulie.  Same with Tim Bradley.

 

Then you have guys like Lucas Mathysse and Keith Thurman.

 

Thx for the dope gifs.

I won't say "VTFU when I get to a computer later!" because that's seriously gay. Phone Post
VTFU when I get to a computer! Phone Post
The only correct response. Phone Post
3/20/13 1:57 PM
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BernardHopkins - id compare punching to any other explosive movements.

vertical leap is one. most guys in the NBA train and practice together, doing the same stuff day in and out. Some have amazing verticals and others have average. you can increase anything you want with proper training, but some people start out much higher naturally than others, and of course everyone has limits.


Just in case, I'd like to be able to say that I once quoted the "Executioner" in a thread....

3/20/13 2:00 PM
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BernardHopkins - id compare punching to any other explosive movements.

vertical leap is one. most guys in the NBA train and practice together, doing the same stuff day in and out. Some have amazing verticals and others have average. you can increase anything you want with proper training, but some people start out much higher naturally than others, and of course everyone has limits.

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3/20/13 2:21 PM
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3/20/13 2:24 PM
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I think some of it has to do with how your tendons attach. There is a definite genetic component. Phone Post
3/20/13 2:26 PM
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You can definitely learn to punch harder and improve from where you start. But there are some guys that just have a natural talent and that can be incredibly hard to replicate even with hard work.
3/20/13 2:47 PM
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Clown Baby -  My opinion is worthless, but I think it all comes down to timing and perception.
The velocity of your fist when throwing a punch isn't constant throughout the strike, and I think knockout artists have a particular knack for reaching their opponents chin when their fist is at its peak velocity. Couple that with an inherent understanding of angles/good technique and you have a KO. Phone Post

 

there's nobody better at the precision/angles/technique game than Floyd Mayweather.

 


To be fair to Floyd, he has the power to knock people out. He racked up KOs pretty regularly when he was competing at super-featherweight and lightweight. It wasn't until he started competing at welterweight and light-middleweight that his power disappeared.
3/20/13 2:49 PM
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Why can some guys bench 400 pounds and gas in 20 seconds of running.

Vice-versa.

Natural tools are very important.

But, I'm sure there's way to drastically improve power in a striker, but not really a way to implant natural prowess and ability from birth.

Everyone's not special, sad, but true.
3/20/13 2:59 PM
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Freddie Gavaria -

Well didn't Freddie Roach just say that Shogun hit like a girl, but now that he has shown him how to punch properly hes got real power in his hands? 

Came in to say this. Phone Post

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