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3/21/13 10:41 AM
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Oh and definitely don't demand the precise test results then accuse the UFC of malfeasance and colluding with their independantly contractec drug testing...

Unless he wants to make this some wierd Soylent Green uncover the truth adventure, he should stfu and not accuse his employer of a serious legal transgression for which he has no proof apart from, "BRO, but I quite 3 WEEKS OUT!! 3 weeks bro!"

As anyone with minimal knowledge of THCCOOH (or however the fck it's spelled), knows chronic smoking severely lags the release and oxidation of THC from adipose deposits. Like, I've had so many US friends who've had to take drug tests, and these total fucking stoners are willing to quit a month in advance to be safe. You're telling me Riddle couldn't wait a month, just after he got busted??!!
And wtf, before getting caught he was fine with a 2week window of detox? LOL not cool when you're smoking an eighth a day + hashish
3/21/13 10:46 AM
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spliff - not cutting herman was bad but thiago silva is the worst. losses to rashad, beats vera/tests positive for roids, comes back and headlines in sweden and losses, comes back and fights on the co main and test positive for weed. and now hes coming back and gets to fight another guy that just tested positive for roids

I agree, but Thiago apologized and claimed it was for injury, said whatever happens is in the hands of the UFC, was already a large draw on the cusp of #1 contendership multiple times and was quite a draw at his peak, at least in terms of recognition power.

So he passes a bunch of tests Riddle fails.
- Draw
- Rankings Relevance prior to shenanigans
- Don't fuck with your boss
- Had about 2 years between hot pisses


Obviously, there are alot of reasons to cut him, but I don't see how Riddle situation isn't an extreme extra retarded version of this shit. Which makes me think Riddle comes off silly playing up the victim role
3/21/13 11:10 AM
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DiazsBongWater -  "He's just a juice monkey, who's bald and doesn't know shit about business"

Says a very mediocre fighter to his multi millionaire boss who happens to be the president of a billionaires company...

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Yeah, but Riddle blows glass, so it's about even.
3/21/13 11:45 AM
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the geek -
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Sal Penis - War Riddle. The guy speaks his mind. Holds nothing back. The UFC is not the end of all things despite what you zuffa zombies think. Hopefully Bellator picks him up. Phone Post
Not that you have a bias or anything though right? Phone Post

Yah and the same could be said about you especially, so why are you calling him out for something you could easily be called out for?

Can you tell me how I have a bias?

Do I like the UFC and post frequently in support of them? Yes!

Can you find 1 post where I have said anything negative about another organization, ever?

I'm a positive guy, my nature is to find ways to make things work, not to fail. But what I struggle with is people who tell me I'm not allowed to like something and I'm wrong if I don't agree with them. I love the UFC, call me a shill I don't mind, just don't tell me I'm wrong for loving the UFC, it's allowed to like what I want.

I will never (or at least I'll try to never) build up the things I love by tearing down the things you love.
100% this ....and because the geek is too nice I will say it...

Cre have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. Phone Post
3/21/13 11:47 AM
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Riddle has smoked himself retarded
3/21/13 11:52 AM
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"But really, he’s just a juice monkey who’s bald, who doesn’t know sh** about business. He just yells the F word and expects things to be handed to him.”

LMAO. Welp, enjoy your career in the minors, Matt!
3/21/13 12:01 PM
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it's amazing matt's made it this far in his field.  his sense of entitlement and self cockblocking is unlike anything i've seen.  or at least can remember seeing

3/21/13 12:03 PM
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Dana came out publicly and said the shit he said about smoking weed to stop him from beating his kids, is the main reason they dropped him.

The guy is just an idiot, even when he has a good point he fucks it up by coming off as a complete retard.
3/21/13 12:05 PM
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Riddle is a total idiot. Gets released for failing a drug test twice.Claiming his Marijuana is "medicine" [even says he would beat his kids without it {and we wonder why MMA still has a bad rep}], Starts badmouthing Dana in public. Ends up blacklisted from UFC.

If he kept his mouth shut, got a few wins in other leagues under his belt he would probably be given a second chance in the UFC. Unless he ends up in Bellator or WSOF his chances of making a living from MMA are now gone.

And pot smokers wonder why the saying that Pot makes you stupid exists. Look at this guy and Nick Diaz for proof.
3/21/13 12:07 PM
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the worst part is he has kids to worry about and this is how he acts.  then again he only mentions his kids when he talks about beating them.  

3/21/13 12:56 PM
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“Even now, I don’t have a dislike for Dana White or the UFC. But really, he’s just a juice monkey who’s bald, who doesn’t know sh** about business. He just yells the F word and expects things to be handed to him.”

That is just AWESOME. You all realize that 85% of the fighters feel EXACTLY like that and are afraid to say anything. I have met MANY fighters and mma officials and very few of them actually like Dana or think he's good for the sport...
3/21/13 1:50 PM
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Remember when Kevin Randalmen wanted to murder this kid?
Why don't we let him? Phone Post
3/21/13 2:12 PM
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Don't agree with riddle's name-calling... but it is kind of BS that Herman, who is 0-3 in his last 3 fights, has failed 2 drug tests for weed. This is also a guy who admittedly doesn't train very hard, and looks like complete garbage lately, and has been finished in every fight in devastating fashion, to the point where it seemed as if he wasn't even trying, just collecting a paycheck. Fuck Pee Wee. I'm not a Riddle fan, but much rather have him around than Herman, but HW is just mad weak I guess.

Thiago Silva, who is 2-2 in his last 4 (0-2-2 after his wins were turned into NC's), failed once for a non-human urine sample trying to beat the test, and also for weed.

Riddle is 4-0 in his last 4 fights (2-0-2 after his wins were turned into NC's). The difference is both of those guys are more "exciting" I guess? Riddle wasn't talking shit before he got kicked outta the UFC, just that he was unhappy about not fighting Hardy.

***Other fighters who have gotten by in the UFC AFTER failing MULTIPLE drug tests***

Marquardt has failed for steroids and non-disclosed TRT, Vitor has failed for Steroids and elevated T, and is now on a TUE that is apparently only valid outside of the USA (or at least NV), Diaz failed twice for weed, Sean Sherk failed for roids twice, and even Josh Barnett was offered a job after failing at least 3 times for steroids.

(I know I must be forgetting a bunch of guys)
3/21/13 2:48 PM
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There are a lot of others. Franca, Sylvia, Bonnar twice, Chael for also failing to disclose (and then lying and saying he had disclosed), I know another japanese guy got nailed for weed, and more I know.
3/21/13 2:58 PM
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Tomato Can - Matt Riddle is not a particularly good representative for marijuana legalization efforts. And by that I mean he is a moron.
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3/21/13 3:04 PM
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HexRei - There are a lot of others. Franca, Sylvia, Bonnar twice, Chael for also failing to disclose (and then lying and saying he had disclosed), I know another japanese guy got nailed for weed, and more I know.

i was thinking about guys who got popper twice or more then kept fighting, so Bonnar doesn't really count cause he retired after, which I think is scummier because he KNEW he couldn't really get in trouble minus some minimal fines.
3/21/13 3:16 PM
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That guy is a douchebag and a fucking moron.
3/21/13 3:45 PM
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FlyingSubsOnly - Don't agree with riddle's name-calling... but it is kind of BS that Herman, who is 0-3 in his last 3 fights, has failed 2 drug tests for weed. This is also a guy who admittedly doesn't train very hard, and looks like complete garbage lately, and has been finished in every fight in devastating fashion, to the point where it seemed as if he wasn't even trying, just collecting a paycheck. Fuck Pee Wee. I'm not a Riddle fan, but much rather have him around than Herman, but HW is just mad weak I guess.

Thiago Silva, who is 2-2 in his last 4 (0-2-2 after his wins were turned into NC's), failed once for a non-human urine sample trying to beat the test, and also for weed.

Riddle is 4-0 in his last 4 fights (2-0-2 after his wins were turned into NC's). The difference is both of those guys are more "exciting" I guess? Riddle wasn't talking shit before he got kicked outta the UFC, just that he was unhappy about not fighting Hardy.

***Other fighters who have gotten by in the UFC AFTER failing MULTIPLE drug tests***

Marquardt has failed for steroids and non-disclosed TRT, Vitor has failed for Steroids and elevated T, and is now on a TUE that is apparently only valid outside of the USA (or at least NV), Diaz failed twice for weed, Sean Sherk failed for roids twice, and even Josh Barnett was offered a job after failing at least 3 times for steroids.

(I know I must be forgetting a bunch of guys)

Considering how stupid his recent outbursts have been, I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to say he was being trouble behind the scenes as well.  It's not like a guy as just a perfect employee every day then suddenly goes on a boss bashing rampage where he tries his best to snitch on fellow fighters and get people fired.  The guy obviously has maturity issues which I'm gussing contributed to his firing. 

In the end it's chidish to point at someone else and cry unfair.  Riddell isn't Herman.  They're different people that bring different things to the company.  They're in different divisions with different needs and their reactions to their failed tests were different.  I also don't think Herman was looking to fight easier opponents like Riddel was.

3/21/13 3:59 PM
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Definetly going to smoke a bowl with riddle when he comes down for his legacy fights.
3/21/13 4:10 PM
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The Purp - explain how matt can make more money outside the ufc?

He can take wayyy more fights, these smaller shows like legacy and xfc pay good money for there known fighters. He wasn't making shit in ufc anyway, he wasn't even making 10-10k Riddle knows he will never get a title shot, so why waste time in an org you don't even fight 3 times a year? He can take 8 fights a year, make more money, and get to travel around the world.
3/21/13 4:13 PM
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The Purp - explain how matt can make more money outside the ufc?

He can take wayyy more fights, these smaller shows like legacy and xfc pay good money for there known fighters. He wasn't making shit in ufc anyway, he wasn't even making 10-10k Riddle knows he will never get a title shot, so why waste time in an org you don't even fight 3 times a year? He can take 8 fights a year, make more money, and get to travel around the world.
Maybe not 8 fights but exactly right on the rest Phone Post
3/21/13 4:14 PM
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KID CHOSE A DRUG OVER HIS PROFESSION............IF ANYONE IS FUCKING STUPID HERE ITS HIM. LOL


AND THIS IS COMING FROM A STONER.
3/21/13 4:18 PM
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The Purp - explain how matt can make more money outside the ufc?

He can take wayyy more fights, these smaller shows like legacy and xfc pay good money for there known fighters. He wasn't making shit in ufc anyway, he wasn't even making 10-10k Riddle knows he will never get a title shot, so why waste time in an org you don't even fight 3 times a year? He can take 8 fights a year, make more money, and get to travel around the world.

Unless you have a manager with connections it's not that easy to get 6-8 fights a year, particularly not the type of fights that pay more than $1-2K.

Most guys that get bounced from the UFC still only fight 2-3 times a year.
3/21/13 4:28 PM
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SZRoll - Hahaha it's so funny when people make the comment that Matt Riddle is a moron and he's "setting back the marijuana movement." I don't get it, he really didn't say anything rowdy stupid or ignorant. And even so, everyone always throws out the 'it's not helping the movement' phrase like our whole argument or case for legalization is that we're promising not to do anything stupid and act really good when we're high. F that, I want cannabis legal because it's less harmful than all the other legal drugs and I want to get high and use drugs. Case closed.

VTFU!!!!!
3/21/13 4:28 PM
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The Purp - explain how matt can make more money outside the ufc?

He can take wayyy more fights, these smaller shows like legacy and xfc pay good money for there known fighters. He wasn't making shit in ufc anyway, he wasn't even making 10-10k Riddle knows he will never get a title shot, so why waste time in an org you don't even fight 3 times a year? He can take 8 fights a year, make more money, and get to travel around the world.

He's not going to get that many fights, especially if he's suspended.

Also, he's going to lose sponsorship money.

 

I don't think he makes anywhere near what he made while he was in the UFC ever again.


Wait so since he is not in ufc nobody will want to sponsor him? When you make shit money in ufc, its not hard to find promotions to pay you ok money. Some of these smaller shows pay way more than you think. Especially ones outside of the states. Legacy will probably pay him anywere from 8-12k.

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