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3/22/13 5:38 PM
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On May 25, 1965, Muhammad Ali fought Sonny Liston in Lewiston, Maine. In the first round, Liston fell to the ground, from the effects of a punch that few saw land. Ali stood over Liston yelling "Get up and fight, sucker!" After 20 seconds, Liston rose to continue fighting. The referee, former world champion Jersey Joe Walcott initially allowed the fight to continue, but then declared a KO, although Ali had not gone towards a neutral corner, necessary for a 10-count to be initiated.

The controvery has been ever lasting. The image is too.

On Thursday night at Bellator 93 in Lewiston, ME, Marcus Davis fought Waachiim Spiritwolf, and again there was controversy about what landed where.

Davis landed a knee to, well, that is in dispute.

Spiritwolf was given five minutes to recover, and when he was unable to, an NC was declared, as he knee had been accidental.

Now Davis is protesting to the Combative Sports Authority of Maine.

Via Facebook.

Irish Hand Grenade
After being able to watch video and get pictures of the knee. After getting to talk to the doctor I am petitioning the Maine MMA Commission asking for them to review my findings and the medical physicians report to over turn it from a no contest to a win due to he couldn't/refused to continue after a LEGAL shot. That a knee blow to the lower abdominal area that induces some sort of panic attack is not a NC.

Irish Hand Grenade
Let me know what you think. Even better maybe let the press and Maine MMA commission know what you think.
Please give me your input.
LEGAL?
ILLEGAL?
Let me explain the actual unified rule definition of a illegal knee-- there is NO rule about placement of a low knee-- knees to hips and thighs are legal the ONLY thing it says-- this is copied and pasted from the site-
    *Groin attacks of any kind

What do you think UG? Knee to the groin, or legal kick that caused a panic attack?

 


3/22/13 5:42 PM
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Looked more at the belt line but its hard to tell from that angle Phone Post
3/22/13 5:42 PM
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I think it could have hit the groin, but I don't think Spiritwolf's reaction was genuine, just my opinion. Phone Post
3/22/13 5:45 PM
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My gaaawwwwd this Marcus David. Phone Post
3/22/13 5:49 PM
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Based off the gif, it looks like a low blow.

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3/22/13 5:51 PM
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Looks like it grazed the cup and went up into his gut. Normally a grazed cup doesn't cause much damage, but in the position Spiritwolf was in who knows how well his cup was in place at that time. If it was a bit out of position grazing the cup could cause the edge of it to smash into a nut. A doctor could check if there is any bruising/swelling on Spiritwolf's nuts, but even if there isn't any there is nothing saying how bad a groin shot must be to not be able to continue.

I don't think this will be successful for Davis.

3/22/13 5:57 PM
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Tankhead - Based off the gif, it looks like a low blow.

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3/22/13 6:00 PM
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Tankhead - Based off the gif, it looks like a low blow.

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3/22/13 6:05 PM
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If having a decision reversed is what you're after, you better have much cleaner footage than this. There must be clear/non debatable evidence that the blow landed clean. If I had to take one side or the other based on these images, that's not nearly good enough to convince me the descion should be changed. Just my opinion guys! Phone Post
3/22/13 6:10 PM
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Chareth Cutestory - That GIF looks doctored. In this GIF it is a clean groin shot:

http://i.minus.com/iTDbpACMyjYhE.gif

Yeah, the GIF in the first post is sneaky, seemingly editing out a section.  

Here's the real GIF:

3/22/13 6:12 PM
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looks to me like the knee strikes the cup and then slides up to lower abdomen.

3/22/13 6:14 PM
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illegal to me, it skipped up in the gif. IT will stay a NC.

Now, what I would have loved to see, is Michael Page when he said ready to fight in 5 min, if Marcus petitioned for that. I see no reason why they should be allowed to have fought if they both wanted to, neither took any head blows, and neither had fought for 10 min (25 min of fighting allowed in one night in most states I do believe)
3/22/13 6:18 PM
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I don't see how it's not a knee to the nuts? Phone Post
3/22/13 6:19 PM
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Looks like it grazed the cup and went up into his gut. Normally a grazed cup doesn't cause much damage, but in the position Spiritwolf was in who knows how well his cup was in place at that time. If it was a bit out of position grazing the cup could cause the edge of it to smash into a nut. A doctor could check if there is any bruising/swelling on Spiritwolf's nuts, but even if there isn't any there is nothing saying how bad a groin shot must be to not be able to continue.

I don't think this will be successful for Davis.


I think you are spot on about the cup being grazed and going into his lower gut.  I do not think the reason he was unable to continue is due to an attack to the groin though.  I think that the cup pushing into his lower abdomen is what hurt him.  It is a soft area that was probably hit with the cup, which is of a hard material and that would ruin anyones day with the force of a knee behind it.

Only speculating about this, either way, will only serve as mental masturbation.  Can't wait to hear what the doctor that examined him officially says.

3/22/13 6:20 PM
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Too close to overrule. His nuts may have been topsy turvy in his cup when the top of it got smashed... Phone Post
3/22/13 6:21 PM
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Chris -

looks to me like the knee strikes the cup and then slides up to lower abdomen.

Exactly. Low blow 100% Phone Post
3/22/13 6:22 PM
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definetely a low blow...plus why the hell would a professional mma fighter just quite like that...Sorry Marcus you weren't puttin an ass whoopin down like that son
3/22/13 6:25 PM
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Donald Rice Cerrone - definetely a low blow...plus why the hell would a professional mma fighter just quite like that...Sorry Marcus you weren't puttin an ass whoopin down like that son
This. Fight had barely started. Phone Post
3/22/13 6:33 PM
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Looks low to me. This is not Koscheck we're talking about either, this is SpiritFACKINwolf

3/22/13 6:38 PM
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I've lost a great deal of respect for Marcus Davis because of this.
3/22/13 6:41 PM
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UGCTT_EnderTL -

Looks like it grazed the cup and went up into his gut. Normally a grazed cup doesn't cause much damage, but in the position Spiritwolf was in who knows how well his cup was in place at that time. If it was a bit out of position grazing the cup could cause the edge of it to smash into a nut. A doctor could check if there is any bruising/swelling on Spiritwolf's nuts, but even if there isn't any there is nothing saying how bad a groin shot must be to not be able to continue.

I don't think this will be successful for Davis.

Agreed with this. Phone Post
3/22/13 6:43 PM
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BigBopper - I've lost a great deal of respect for Marcus Davis because of this.

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3/22/13 6:46 PM
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Spiritwolf ain't a bitch. 1 TKO on Spiritwolf record. That knee was low and to the nuts.
3/22/13 6:48 PM
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ACs have not reversed things that have been more clear. No way this gets turned over. Phone Post
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Jesus I almost didn't click because I knew not who Marcus David was... Also.. Too close to call. Phone Post

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