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3/27/13 10:12 PM
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  1. I don't need science to identify a mentally unstable selfish SOB that is not only full of self hate, but anger towards women. Fallon is this man.
  2. I don't appreciate some passive aggressive bullshit about "we don't know" "we can't be sure". No. I'm sure. I know. Don't try to speak for me or anyone else. Speak for yourself.
  3. Tired of this PC bullshit about men trapped in women's bodies, children getting to choose what gender they want to be, etc etc. These self indulgent and dellusional people need help. But no one wants to risk losing their standing or being called heartless or worse yet, they want to ticker with these people for play, money or tenure. The idea that 100% of mankind doesn't see how idiotic it is to cut off your genetalia and masquerade as something is a sign of illness is depressing.

 

Yes, it's fine if you think that but what is more likely to get traction to stop Fallon from fighting? Complete vocalized hatred (which is totally your right about this) for the situation or an indestructible argument that can gain steam with reasonable people, like the female fighters who are peers and competitors to Fallon.

 

None of them are spewing hate even if thats what they feel because that just feeds the LGBT's whole misderection strategy. Most of the WMMA fighters have been simply saying that Fallon has to prove that there's no advantage and so far people like Crooklyn (massive props) have been helping deny the shit show from progressing in the minds of reasonable people.

You're entitled to have an aggressive viewpoint on this I share the frustration, but I know what kind of fuel it can be for PC zealots. Fuck those people, but they can only look stupid in the face of proof like Crookly sought after and more are now that she has unlocked the door.

Their bias will defeat them.

3/27/13 10:13 PM
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Ryan Williams -  Did she train or fight when she was a man?

Not that it matters but it would be pretty fucked up if she did. Phone Post

Don't know but maybe he did some type of fighting when he was in the navy in his early 20s ( operations specialist 2nd class for the U.S.S. Enterprise )

Hold the fuck up. This grown ass MAN was in the goddamn NAVY? Jesus. smh. 

3/27/13 10:17 PM
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when they asked 10 or so successful female fighters only 2 or 3 of them acutally support Fallon's and their argument had no basis in fact just arbitrary support for a (brave pers....hahhaha I can't even finish that).

 

And I understand the stupidity of the issue as well, I live in Canada and grew up in a province WHERE TAX PAYERS SUPPORT FUND SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, and the evaluations are handled by a mental health organization.

 

How fucked up is that?

3/27/13 10:24 PM
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when they asked 10 or so successful female fighters only 2 or 3 of them acutally support Fallon's and their argument had no basis in fact just arbitrary support for a (brave pers....hahhaha I can't even finish that).

 

And I understand the stupidity of the issue as well, I live in Canada and grew up in a province WHERE TAX PAYERS SUPPORT FUND SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, and the evaluations are handled by a mental health organization.

 

How fucked up is that?


As fucked as it gets. lol. 

 

And you and I know 100% of fighters DON'T support Fallon. They are just afraid to be maligned in the press. But here's the thing FALLON IS A FUCKING COWARD AS WELL because we know that twerp is lurking on the forums daily, but has yet to make an account and speak his mind. An attention whore like him would want to check in daily to see who and what's being said. But since none of its positive, he's a noshow.

3/27/13 10:27 PM
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Ryan Williams -  Did she train or fight when she was a man?

Not that it matters but it would be pretty fucked up if she did. Phone Post

Don't know but maybe he did some type of fighting when he was in the navy in his early 20s ( operations specialist 2nd class for the U.S.S. Enterprise )

Hold the fuck up. This grown ass MAN was in the goddamn NAVY? Jesus. smh. 


Yea according the his wiki.

Still living under the pretences of a heterosexual male, Fox impregnated her girlfriend at the age of 19. Due to pressure from her religiously conservative background Fox married her then-girlfriend and joined the navy to support her new family. Fox served as an operations specialist 2nd class for the U.S.S. Enterprise in the United States Navy (USN).

I could totally see how religion was at fault here. I mean he was "stilling living under the pretences" and they pressured to actually support his newborn. The nerve of these hateful people. smh. 

Fallon Fox you are a fucking dimwitted nimrod. I hope you wake up one morning to find a dick, covered in hair growing out of your forehead. It would make your insides and outsides match.

3/27/13 10:31 PM
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when they asked 10 or so successful female fighters only 2 or 3 of them acutally support Fallon's and their argument had no basis in fact just arbitrary support for a (brave pers....hahhaha I can't even finish that).

 

And I understand the stupidity of the issue as well, I live in Canada and grew up in a province WHERE TAX PAYERS SUPPORT FUND SEX CHANGE OPERATIONS, and the evaluations are handled by a mental health organization.

 

How fucked up is that?


As fucked as it gets. lol. 

 

And you and I know 100% of fighters DON'T support Fallon. They are just afraid to be maligned in the press. But here's the thing FALLON IS A FUCKING COWARD AS WELL because we know that twerp is lurking on the forums daily, but has yet to make an account and speak his mind. An attention whore like him would want to check in daily to see who and what's being said. But since none of its positive, he's a noshow.


I know, just make sure to also support Crooklyn and the people like her making an effort to get the real goods on the facts which will go a long way too.

3/27/13 10:43 PM
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Peggy Morgan: Why I don't want to fight Fallon Fox

 
 

you looka like a man Phone Post

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3/27/13 10:59 PM
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no, you do not

yay!
3/27/13 11:02 PM
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  1. I don't need science to identify a mentally unstable selfish SOB that is not only full of self hate, but anger towards women. Fallon is this man.
  2. I don't appreciate some passive aggressive bullshit about "we don't know" "we can't be sure". No. I'm sure. I know. Don't try to speak for me or anyone else. Speak for yourself.
  3. Tired of this PC bullshit about men trapped in women's bodies, children getting to choose what gender they want to be, etc etc. These self indulgent and dellusional people need help. But no one wants to risk losing their standing or being called heartless or worse yet, they want to ticker with these people for play, money or tenure. The idea that 100% of mankind doesn't see how idiotic it is to cut off your genetalia and masquerade as something is a sign of illness is depressing.

only issue with this is that in HS I knew a s/he that had a chicks body and a man's mind. like I didn't know err they were a she until they disclosed it because they wore baggy clothes (had boobs and a vagina). Otherwise it was a dude with a Bruce Willis obsession that we would all chill with

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3/27/13 11:06 PM
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Peggy Morgan: Why I don't want to fight Fallon Fox

 
 

you looka like a man Phone Post

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3/27/13 11:11 PM
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ppandj is Fox Fallon's lover

3/27/13 11:19 PM
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Some people have forgotten their US pop culture history, this was all done before a long time ago...

CNN story recapping:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/07/us/kaufman-lawler-wrestling-match Phone Post
3/27/13 11:23 PM
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yay!

ppandj is Fox Fallon's lover

mmmm.....so what? Phone Post

How does that work? Strap-on?

3/27/13 11:26 PM
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BigWilliam - Morgan is right. Being a man brings physical advantages and Fallon still has some or all of those advantages.

Very true.

Fox is a Eunuch = a castrated man, not a woman. He is a man with no penis.

Even by lowering a man's testosterone, there are many advatages in combat that a male has over a female that have nothing to do with fighting skill. Things such as having far greater bone density, less water retention, heavy set facial bones (specifically the jaw), etc.

I think that it's clearly an advantage, irrespective of skill level or testosterone levels.
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This is John Fain. I appreciate the support Peggy is receiving from almost everyone. The good news is that CFA is showing support for Peggy and the other female fighters in the tournament. Nobody is being pressured to fight Fallon Fox. It's a complicated situation for the promotion and it is unclear what will happen with the tournament but hopefully Peggy will be fighting soon!

3/27/13 11:39 PM
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Mihow - no, you do not

yay!
ok i am wrong. not entirely. but mostly wrong.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_(male-to-female) Phone Post

I was hoping you would call me names and such first :(

I unzipped and everything
3/27/13 11:40 PM
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This is John Fain. I appreciate the support Peggy is receiving from almost everyone. The good news is that CFA is showing support for Peggy and the other female fighters in the tournament. Nobody is being pressured to fight Fallon Fox. It's a complicated situation for the promotion and it is unclear what will happen with the tournament but hopefully Peggy will be fighting soon!


I demand pics of Peggy's feet!

... to verify that she is indeed a born WOman!
3/27/13 11:41 PM
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BigWilliam - Morgan is right. Being a man brings physical advantages and Fallon still has some or all of those advantages.

Very true.

Fox is a Eunuch = a castrated man, not a woman. He is a man with no penis.

Even by lowering a man's testosterone, there are many advatages in combat that a male has over a female that have nothing to do with fighting skill. Things such as having far greater bone density, less water retention, heavy set facial bones (specifically the jaw), etc.

I think that it's clearly an advantage, irrespective of skill level or testosterone levels.

it's actually the loss of the testes, not the penis, that's relevant here. You can cut someone's dick off and they just have to sit down to pee. Cut the balls off, and there goes the source of almost all the testosterone in their body.
3/28/13 12:05 AM
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i dont give a crap that its popular to go along with a play these dudes want us to abide by and not address them by the correct sex. i dont care what experts or doctors say. its a guy with tits and a mutilated penis. taking drugs to alter your hormonal makeup means NOTHING to anyone but people who are happy to play along. some people go along with the play some dont. if everyone on earth went along with the play it would still be a dude with tits and a mutilated penis.

calling him 'she' is done just to make him feel better about himself, it doesnt mean its actually a girl.

a child with a split sexuality of some kind (physically) that was decided close to the time the child is born is not the same as a grown dude who wants to grow tits and mutilate their penis.

he shouldnt be allowed to fight women.
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BigWilliam - Morgan is right. Being a man brings physical advantages and Fallon still has some or all of those advantages.

Very true.

Fox is a Eunuch = a castrated man, not a woman. He is a man with no penis.

Even by lowering a man's testosterone, there are many advatages in combat that a male has over a female that have nothing to do with fighting skill. Things such as having far greater bone density, less water retention, heavy set facial bones (specifically the jaw), etc.

I think that it's clearly an advantage, irrespective of skill level or testosterone levels.

it's actually the loss of the testes, not the penis, that's relevant here. You can cut someone's dick off and they just have to sit down to pee. Cut the balls off, and there goes the source of almost all the testosterone in their body.

Yes Hex, you are correct.
3/28/13 4:16 AM
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Ryan Williams -  Did she train or fight when she was a man?

Not that it matters but it would be pretty fucked up if she did. Phone Post

Don't know but maybe he did some type of fighting when he was in the navy in his early 20s ( operations specialist 2nd class for the U.S.S. Enterprise )

Hold the fuck up. This grown ass MAN was in the goddamn NAVY? Jesus. smh. 


Yea according the his wiki.

Still living under the pretences of a heterosexual male, Fox impregnated her girlfriend at the age of 19. Due to pressure from her religiously conservative background Fox married her then-girlfriend and joined the navy to support her new family. Fox served as an operations specialist 2nd class for the U.S.S. Enterprise in the United States Navy (USN).

he probably didn't do anything fight-wise in the navy. i know a couple of lads who were in the royal navy (i know, different country) and they weren't allowed to do anything like that, in case they injured themselves. "we had marines for all that"

but one of the videos there explains how she did athletics in high school. this is the equivalent of a woman being allowed to abuse PEDs for 30+ years and cycling off.
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I don´t even understand the argument. It´s a dude wearing a
21st century costume.
It´s like when my little nephew dresses himself up as spiderman and thinks he has superpowers, just the other way around.
And I don´t think even with estrogene pills and testosterone blockers the hormone levels ever even out...??!Whatever as a woman I would never fight her(?).
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easedel - Well even if he didn't fight in the navy he was most likely in pretty damn good shape. You really dont see too many fat out of shape navy peoples.
He was an OS. They look at fucking monitors and shit for 12 hours a day. He may have been in good shape, but I can assure you that it wasn't due to his job. He would've had to adhere to Navy PT standards, which require about a week or two of training to be able to pass.

Not defending Fallon, just clearing the air that an Operations Specialist is not some amazing, tactical, SEAL-like job. It is a desk job. Phone Post
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Whats funny is the most baffling thing about about this whole ordeal is how everyone is finally on the same side of a controversial topic. Like 99% of people are just straight up "thats a dude" and not even the trolls are trying to spin it.
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You guys wouldn't fucking believe how many people have called me an asshole for saying that this person has an advantage over natural women.  Ignorant, transphobe, and even sexist because I'm so bold as to claim the male frame has a mechanical advantage over the female frame.  The whole thing is PC nonsense gone mad and although I knew people were a bunch of silly bitches this blowback has really caught me by surprise.

The trend seems to be that they're pushing for a transwoman to be thought of as a 100% real woman, regardless of how long she was a man before the surgery.  And so far 5 women have gotten the fuck beaten out of them by someone that used to be a man with that thinking.


The thing that infuriates me is theres a whole collection of scientific peer reviewed journals lambasting the IOC, and yet ppl have the balls to shit on you over your comments.

The reaction on BloodyElbows pissed me off and reeked of PC bullshit. At least now there's a video of an endocrinologist for these monkeys who were too stupid to google the matter before deciding to crucify you

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