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3/28/13 6:07 PM
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Bry Bry - which movements increase punching and kicking power?

benching increases explosive power ..for instance if someone is on top of you, if you are a strong bencher, you could literally just press them off of you..every weight-lifting movement could technically serve some purpose in a fight..training bicep curls wouldnt be worthless either imo as it makes your biceps much strong, increases strength of a choke hold..
You can't bench aomebody off of tou unless you are a HW fighting a WW ir something. Even then it's be hard.

And if you are doing curls to get better at chokes, you are doing it wrong. Phone Post
Disagree, I've seen people literally get thrown off mount by the guy using his arms... Phone Post
3/28/13 6:08 PM
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"lifting weights" as you say can make you a better athlete. the lay person doesnt understand that resistance training needs to be sport specific and is a must for mma. however too many fighers have bogus s&c coaches that dont know their arse from their elbow and have them doing ridiculous training. circuit style resistance training with an emphasis on local muscular endurance is a must. there are many other aspects that can be implemented but it must be specific for each athlete.

Conditioning is sport specific, resistance training isn't. Increased strength in your hips, legs, back will carry over to fighting just fine. Running 20 miles won't ... Phone Post
3/28/13 6:20 PM
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Bry Bry - which movements increase punching and kicking power?

benching increases explosive power ..for instance if someone is on top of you, if you are a strong bencher, you could literally just press them off of you..every weight-lifting movement could technically serve some purpose in a fight..training bicep curls wouldnt be worthless either imo as it makes your biceps much strong, increases strength of a choke hold..
You can't bench aomebody off of tou unless you are a HW fighting a WW ir something. Even then it's be hard.

And if you are doing curls to get better at chokes, you are doing it wrong. Phone Post
Disagree, I've seen people literally get thrown off mount by the guy using his arms... Phone Post
Then whoever was on top has some work to do. Phone Post 3.0
3/28/13 6:22 PM
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irishrottie -

"lifting weights" as you say can make you a better athlete. the lay person doesnt understand that resistance training needs to be sport specific and is a must for mma. however too many fighers have bogus s&c coaches that dont know their arse from their elbow and have them doing ridiculous training. circuit style resistance training with an emphasis on local muscular endurance is a must. there are many other aspects that can be implemented but it must be specific for each athlete.

Conditioning is sport specific, resistance training isn't. Increased strength in your hips, legs, back will carry over to fighting just fine. Running 20 miles won't ... Phone Post

 

they both are. "Increased strength in your hips, legs, back will carry over to fighting just fine." this is correct, however how are you doing this? open or closed chain exercises, core or assistance. all are determined by the physical demands of the sport and the movements. like i said, other aspects.

 

3/28/13 6:27 PM
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In regards to the OP, if you have no training and then put on mass, your bulky self should be able to crush your non-bulky self.

But there's a reason combat sport athletes cut weight and most aren't looking like body builders. It's not functional or beneficial to carry that mass in a cardio sport.

Yeah strength is a big help, but lifting for pure mass is a hindrance when you need speed and stamina. It just is. Phone Post 3.0
3/28/13 7:14 PM
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Bry Bry - which movements increase punching and kicking power?

benching increases explosive power ..for instance if someone is on top of you, if you are a strong bencher, you could literally just press them off of you..every weight-lifting movement could technically serve some purpose in a fight..training bicep curls wouldnt be worthless either imo as it makes your biceps much strong, increases strength of a choke hold..
You can't bench aomebody off of tou unless you are a HW fighting a WW ir something. Even then it's be hard.

And if you are doing curls to get better at chokes, you are doing it wrong. Phone Post
Disagree, I've seen people literally get thrown off mount by the guy using his arms... Phone Post
It's a very easy way to get caught in an armbar. Not saying that it won't work if you're incredibly strong, but very risky and not efficient at all. Phone Post
3/28/13 7:35 PM
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Increasing strength certainly doesn't make someone a worse fighter, but if you are doing it to supplement other training, then you have to develop/use programming that won't leave you flat when you train in your specific sport.
3/28/13 7:39 PM
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Morecraft and russow say NAY Phone Post 3.0

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