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3/29/13 12:43 AM
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Honestly, it keeps me up at night worrying that the good name of Lloyd Irvin may have been besmirched by this forum.

Now, I'm not saying it would solve anything, BUT...

--Is there anyway we could all maybe chip-in and buy him an "FTD Ticker Bouquet" or basket of Muffins??? --Something fun.

I don't know, I'm just tossing out ideas, here.
3/29/13 12:54 AM
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shen - Honestly, it keeps me up at night worrying that the good name of Lloyd Irvin may have been besmirched by this forum.

Now, I'm not saying it would solve anything, BUT...

--Is there anyway we could all maybe chip-in and buy him an "FTD Ticker Bouquet" or basket of Muffins??? --Something fun.

I don't know, I'm just tossing out ideas, here.

maybe throw in some viagra
3/29/13 1:19 AM
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We should start a thread about Lloyd having a penis that doesnt work.
3/29/13 1:21 AM
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Silhouette -
shen - Honestly, it keeps me up at night worrying that the good name of Lloyd Irvin may have been besmirched by this forum.

Now, I'm not saying it would solve anything, BUT...

--Is there anyway we could all maybe chip-in and buy him an "FTD Ticker Bouquet" or basket of Muffins??? --Something fun.

I don't know, I'm just tossing out ideas, here.

maybe throw in some viagra
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3/29/13 1:24 AM
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Kirik- Don't be scared homey!!! Phone Post
3/29/13 1:25 AM
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Rather than answer to the statements he threatens suit. That's cool Phone Post
3/29/13 1:27 AM
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someone please start a  LI    ALLEGEDLY thread, then can we say what ever we want i guess. 

3/29/13 1:31 AM
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--Or maybe get him a gourmet Whole Foods basket with all kinds of nutritious treats, organic Rapeseed oil, etc.
3/29/13 1:53 AM
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Kirik, did your lawyers advise you to listen to the threats and take the thread down?
Did you even contact your lawyers?
Or did you simply delete it after recieving the email/phone call from tli?

That's what is shitty about this, IMO. Most people could understand you and the site being wanting to stay neutral. But how much of a fight did you put up before deleting the single biggest public voice against this (alleged) person?

Someone posted relevant laws but Wikipedia isn't always reliable obviously.

No disrespect intended, but this is big win for Lloyd, from the outside it seems like he got what he wanted WAY too easy. Phone Post
3/29/13 2:02 AM
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phoenixmma -  Kirik, did your lawyers advise you to listen to the threats and take the thread down?
Did you even contact your lawyers?
Or did you simply delete it after recieving the email/phone call from tli?

That's what is shitty about this, IMO. Most people could understand you and the site being wanting to stay neutral. But how much of a fight did you put up before deleting the single biggest public voice against this (alleged) person?

Someone posted relevant laws but Wikipedia isn't always reliable obviously.

No disrespect intended, but this is big win for Lloyd, from the outside it seems like he got what he wanted WAY too easy. Phone Post

Well, the cat is out of the bag already. BloodyElbow and other sites have been making traction with this. Rumors that bigger media orgs will give the story more eyeballs.

And like Fuzzy said towards the end there - at the end of the day, all of the stuff that was posted didn't really have legs in terms of legal action being taken. That there were more bombs in the works, but they weren't his to drop.

The thread was great for the community at large to keep tabs on the situation, but as a weapon for legal reprisal - in and of itself - it really didn't have much teeth.
3/29/13 2:12 AM
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Fuzzy Badfeet - LOL/
what a joke. At some point Kirik being a "nice" guy just isnt enough to make up for him covering Lloyds ass in every way possible. "Pressure" of a lawsuit. If they could file a lawsuit and get a single dollar thats what they would have done.

All of Kiriks excuses through this whole thing have been shady. I have never seen the dude act in any way that was reprehensible until now. He cant report on the story because he "hates these kind of stories and they give MMA a bad name"? People are not paying to be here to get the news that makes you feel good Krik. This is NOT the premier MMA news site, its a farce. We cant talk about Lloyd being involved in a rape. We cant talk about DJ being involved in a rape. We cant talk about 2 of Lloyds other students raping a third student? We cant talk about all of lloyds students knowing that its true and leaving him high and dry in the middle of the nioght? and more than that, we cant even hear about it on this site cus you "dont like those kinds of stories"?

I bet if it was your wife that Lloyd was trying to fuck in his hotel suite itd be different. I bet if it was your 17 year old daughter who got her pussy and asshole pounded out against her will to the point that 7 guys (all involved except Lloyd) went to jail for it youd feel different. I bet if your daughter trained at Lloyds and would have been the girl that was raped by two other students as a result of the culture lloyd fosters you would feel different. I bet if you had spent thousands of dollars for services that were not recieved you would feel different. But no, nothing happened to you, its just the broader MMA community, so who cares. i challenge you Kirik to write exactly what statements were slanderous and certainly untrue. You have everyone getting on saying "i heard this", " I got this from a second or third party, or I was told this by some people". very few things outside of the initial post were EVER sited as fact, and you really believe that he somehow had a case that would make YOU responsible. You must honestly think we are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth, with no access to any case law regarding free speech, or internet forums.

Screw it, Im with you Kirik. No one needs to know anything about lloyd or what he is up to. let the masses give the guy their money. Let the masses send their daughters to go train at TLI. As long as you dont have to face any "pressure" from his attorneys everything else is acceptable. Its less important to hear about your friend being corrupt, and more important that we hear about how long it takes arianny to work her buns per week.

You hate "these kinds of stories cus they make mma look bad", but that wasnt a problem during war machines crazy fiascos. That wasnt a problem when hermes franca raping some girl was front page news. Then we were told, well its because Hermes was actually convicted. DJ jackson was convicted, i didnt see anything about that. I think that the guy in charge of driving around all the kids for Lloyds youth program being charged and pleaing after fucking a 14 year lod girl is pretty fucking relevant. But, of course, there are none of Kiriks kids there. Lemme guess Kirik, you would send your daughters to be part of Lloyds medal chaser programs?

so the drunk guy getting beat up in a gym, being on the front page of the site, this isnt making the community look bad? allt he bullshit about a guy cutting his cock off and trying to fight as a girl, this is more pertinant to our community? 400k views on that thread say otherwise. For the first time in a long time there was something legitimate that people were talking about, instead now we can be inundated with a bunch of shitty, yes shitty, stories and questions from UG blog, and a bunch of plagiarized stories from UG news.

To insult our intelligence and act like you have even the slightest belief that someohow Lloyd could hold YOU or your site liable for what a bunch of random guys on a message board are saying is fucking insulting to our intelligence.
This was like the anger translator version of what I posted. Lol Phone Post
3/29/13 2:14 AM
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^^^ Kirik just got absolutely ethered Phone Post 3.0
3/29/13 2:41 AM
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WhoRunsBarterTown - You guys are surprised by this? This is the same forum that banned multiple people for trying to out Skip Hall. They covered it up and protected him for years until someone (wink) got Stolen Valor on him for his lies.

Also.... word up to Mike Fowler

http://imgur.com/Z5LYgUk


Don't forget about the guy selling fake MMA items and got busted selling fakes to ug posters and when people bitched about being screwed the posts got deleted. Phone Post
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3/29/13 3:01 AM
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phoenixmma -  Kirik, did your lawyers advise you to listen to the threats and take the thread down?
Did you even contact your lawyers?
Or did you simply delete it after recieving the email/phone call from tli?

That's what is shitty about this, IMO. Most people could understand you and the site being wanting to stay neutral. But how much of a fight did you put up before deleting the single biggest public voice against this (alleged) person?

Someone posted relevant laws but Wikipedia isn't always reliable obviously.

No disrespect intended, but this is big win for Lloyd, from the outside it seems like he got what he wanted WAY too easy. Phone Post

Well, the cat is out of the bag already. BloodyElbow and other sites have been making traction with this. Rumors that bigger media orgs will give the story more eyeballs.

And like Fuzzy said towards the end there - at the end of the day, all of the stuff that was posted didn't really have legs in terms of legal action being taken. That there were more bombs in the works, but they weren't his to drop.

The thread was great for the community at large to keep tabs on the situation, but as a weapon for legal reprisal - in and of itself - it really didn't have much teeth.
True, some of the things that Lloyd was accused of weren't illegal, or may not be proven even if they were illegal, but that's not the point. Fuzzy and a small group of people who are in contact with the victims and law enforcement and lawyers etc are the ones heading up the legal end of it. Lloyd may or may not face charges. The thread being deleted isn't going to stop fuzzy from doing his thing. But the other side of this is just as important. If I said I heard that Lloyd allegedly poaches unicorns And sells their horns on the black market while snorting pixie dust off of Howard sterns small penis..... Well obviously he won't be doing jail time for that, but for every view and every person that gets a look at this situation does their part and urges others in the mma/Bjj community to never give Lloyd another cent or the time of day, then we are doing something important. Even if he gets away with all the alleged charges, this could cripple his business. This is Something that is good for the sport in the long run. Phone Post
3/29/13 3:01 AM
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This site is disgusting sometimes Phone Post 3.0
3/29/13 3:03 AM
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Fuzzy Badfeet - LOL/
what a joke. At some point Kirik being a "nice" guy just isnt enough to make up for him covering Lloyds ass in every way possible. "Pressure" of a lawsuit. If they could file a lawsuit and get a single dollar thats what they would have done.

All of Kiriks excuses through this whole thing have been shady. I have never seen the dude act in any way that was reprehensible until now. He cant report on the story because he "hates these kind of stories and they give MMA a bad name"? People are not paying to be here to get the news that makes you feel good Krik. This is NOT the premier MMA news site, its a farce. We cant talk about Lloyd being involved in a rape. We cant talk about DJ being involved in a rape. We cant talk about 2 of Lloyds other students raping a third student? We cant talk about all of lloyds students knowing that its true and leaving him high and dry in the middle of the nioght? and more than that, we cant even hear about it on this site cus you "dont like those kinds of stories"?

I bet if it was your wife that Lloyd was trying to fuck in his hotel suite itd be different. I bet if it was your 17 year old daughter who got her pussy and asshole pounded out against her will to the point that 7 guys (all involved except Lloyd) went to jail for it youd feel different. I bet if your daughter trained at Lloyds and would have been the girl that was raped by two other students as a result of the culture lloyd fosters you would feel different. I bet if you had spent thousands of dollars for services that were not recieved you would feel different. But no, nothing happened to you, its just the broader MMA community, so who cares. i challenge you Kirik to write exactly what statements were slanderous and certainly untrue. You have everyone getting on saying "i heard this", " I got this from a second or third party, or I was told this by some people". very few things outside of the initial post were EVER sited as fact, and you really believe that he somehow had a case that would make YOU responsible. You must honestly think we are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth, with no access to any case law regarding free speech, or internet forums.

Screw it, Im with you Kirik. No one needs to know anything about lloyd or what he is up to. let the masses give the guy their money. Let the masses send their daughters to go train at TLI. As long as you dont have to face any "pressure" from his attorneys everything else is acceptable. Its less important to hear about your friend being corrupt, and more important that we hear about how long it takes arianny to work her buns per week.

You hate "these kinds of stories cus they make mma look bad", but that wasnt a problem during war machines crazy fiascos. That wasnt a problem when hermes franca raping some girl was front page news. Then we were told, well its because Hermes was actually convicted. DJ jackson was convicted, i didnt see anything about that. I think that the guy in charge of driving around all the kids for Lloyds youth program being charged and pleaing after fucking a 14 year lod girl is pretty fucking relevant. But, of course, there are none of Kiriks kids there. Lemme guess Kirik, you would send your daughters to be part of Lloyds medal chaser programs?

so the drunk guy getting beat up in a gym, being on the front page of the site, this isnt making the community look bad? allt he bullshit about a guy cutting his cock off and trying to fight as a girl, this is more pertinant to our community? 400k views on that thread say otherwise. For the first time in a long time there was something legitimate that people were talking about, instead now we can be inundated with a bunch of shitty, yes shitty, stories and questions from UG blog, and a bunch of plagiarized stories from UG news.

To insult our intelligence and act like you have even the slightest belief that someohow Lloyd could hold YOU or your site liable for what a bunch of random guys on a message board are saying is fucking insulting to our intelligence.
Damn brotha, i saved your post before it gets deleted. You spit out some heat I don't even know who you are but i feel like mailing you a gift card or something!! Reading that shit made me wanna run to the gym and bench press 400 fakn pounds!!

Zach De La Rocha is that you?????

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3/29/13 3:18 AM
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Anyone save any of Fuzzy's posts ? I saved his OP and two others. Phone Post
3/29/13 3:22 AM
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Terrible example of a human being Phone Post
3/29/13 3:38 AM
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KC007 -  Anyone save any of Fuzzy's posts ? I saved his OP and two others. Phone Post

post em here
Won't Kirik delete this thread too ? Phone Post
3/29/13 4:00 AM
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what a joke.... Phone Post
3/29/13 4:04 AM
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Kirik -

Due to pressure from TLI attorneys, who aver that the thread contains a number of false and slanderous accusations, at least some of which have been identified to me, the "My experience" thread was removed from the BJJ forum.

What accusation have been identified to you as false or slanderous? Phone Post
3/29/13 4:15 AM
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Does ANYONE have any doubt NOW as to WHICH SIDE Kirik and this site stand on???? $$$$ is more important than morals.


Some people were raised with them,,and live by them. Others weren't so lucky.

I feel for those borne of a lesser stock in the world.
3/29/13 4:15 AM
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kirik should also remove the ari is a brown belt thread because that shit is also false. no way in hell that scrub is a brown belt. Kirik you gonna get raped and sued if you let keith owen falsely parade ari around as a brown belt, because we all know that he isnt.

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