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3/31/13 6:30 AM
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Rematch GSP vs Diaz II in Cali. 

 

Why can't GSP fight outside of Canada? WTF

 

 seems a lil shady at best


GSP isn't getting near the CSAC. Those guys don't fuck around.
3/31/13 6:45 AM
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KempoKata - IN FOR JOE ROGAN CORROBORATION! SOMEONE TWEET THIS MAN! HE HAS THE VANTAGE POINT AND OFTEN LOOKS AT THE SCALE.

Remember when he was praising Tyson Griffin's glutes? Squats baby? It's cause he's at about that same level.... unique perspective.

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4/1/13 10:14 AM
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Diaz attorney releases private text messages

 

Jonathan Tweedale, Nick Diaz's lawyer, contacted Bloody Elbow and exclusively provided very interesting text message transcripts from the evening of the weigh in, explaining "Given some of the media coverage, we need to set the record straight on the timing that the issue of the 0.9 was raised by Nick Diaz. The issue was pursued immediately. On the evening of March 15, Mike Mersch and I exchanged the following correspondence (via text message), in which he denied any knowledge of a .9 allowance or ignoring the decimal."

Mersch, again, was the man in the video who informed the camp of the "no decimal" changes.

Here is the text conversation between Tweedale (JDT) and Mersch (MM), which starts at 9:24 p.m.:

JDT: "Hi Mike. Nick is curious about the .9 pound allowance at today's weigh-in for his championship bout. He doesn't want to be a nuisance about this, but he's a bit confused. Can you shed any light?"

MM: "I don't know what you're talking about. All parties weighed in appropriately according [to] the Quebec Commission."

JDT: "Of course. You're right, and he knows that. He just wanted to know why the Quebec Commission was okay with a 0.9 pound weight allowance for a championship fight. Nick's not going to make an issue of it, but it's been gnawing at him since it was explained to him at the weigh-ins, on an "off the record" basis or otherwise. I just want him to stop thinking about it, and thought you could provide some insight."

MM: "I have been told everyone made weight so there's nothing to make an issue about. He might want to focus on how he's going to win the fight rather than spending the night making excuses about why he lost."

The correspondence continued at 9:46 p.m.:

JDT: "C'mon Mike you're just going to stonewall on this issue? We're reaching out in a discreet manner, as appropriate in the circumstances. Meet us half-way."

MM: "Huh? The Commission determined both fighters weighed 170 or less. What am I supposed to do about that? I would think Nick would be excited to compete for the UFC Welterweight title. Seems like he's focused on the wrong issue."

JDT: "No one wants you to *do* anything. If the answer is simply "the Quebec Commission permits a promoter to request that .9 pounds be rounded down in a championship fight (unlike, e.g., the Washington commission for Nate's fight), and Zuffa made that request here", then pls confirm. Far better to reach out this way than the uncooperative Twitter/media way."

MM: "How would I know what the Quebec Commission does? I was informed everyone made weight like everyone else at the weigh in. Zuffa made no requests for anything from the Quebec Commission. Good luck to Nick with the fight."

JDT: "Okay. I'll let Nick know that you can't shed any light on why Quebec treats 170.9 as 170 in a championship fight. Disappointing. Thanks for your time and your wish of luck to Nick for the fight."

MM: "Again I have no idea what you're talking about. The Quebec Commission indicated both fighters were 170 or lower."

JDT: "If you don't know then I should be asking someone else. No worries, Mike. Which UFC exec advised Nick and his entourage before the weigh-in that "If you're 170.2, you're 170. If you're 170.9, you're 170...that's a kinda off the record type of thing"?"

MM: "I would think you'd direct that to the source: the Quebec Commission. The UFC has nothing to do with weigh ins in Quebec."

Tweedale explained, "We appreciate that Mr. Mersch was in a difficult position, evidently having been instructed by the Quebec Commission to relay to Mr. Diaz some last-minute, unlawful 'rule changes' to give the hometown fighter a reprieve from his duty to make weight at 170 pounds.

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This just proves that Diaz is not one to make excuses , and had the .9lbs allowance fiasco not been in play then a dominating win from Diaz would have been witnessed by all. (pls note sarcasm but also the unfortunate reality that some do believe it) Phone Post
4/1/13 10:39 AM
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Diaz better hope this guy never gets mad at him......What a douche.......
4/2/13 9:24 AM
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So many people are missing the point on this.  In the video, someone asks Mersch, why weren't we told yesterday?  That's a key point.  Also, why should an official rule be "off the record?"  That makes zero sense.

Later, in that text exchange Mersch pretends that the conversation never happened.  I guess he didn't realize there was a video.  But he was really snotty in to Nick's lawyer.  No need for that.

It's not about excuses.  It's about everyone being on the same page at the same time. 

4/2/13 9:54 AM
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"Still a big difference between 170.5 and 170.9."

There's also a big difference between 170.4 and 170.0, but no one cares that the NSAC and many other ACs round that off.

"It's not about excuses."

Nick's lawyer, the only person speaking publicly about this, who is talking about filing complaints: "I know this: Georges would have gassed in that fight if he had tried to make weight. Nick said he couldn't believe the power moves that Georges was able to do in the fight. Would he have been able to do those if he had been forced to sweat off the rest of the weight?"

4/2/13 10:17 AM
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"Nick's lawyer, the only person speaking publicly about this, who is talking about filing complaints: "I know this: Georges would have gassed in that fight if he had tried to make weight. Nick said he couldn't believe the power moves that Georges was able to do in the fight. Would he have been able to do those if he had been forced to sweat off the rest of the weight?""

This would be a legitmate complaint IF Nick was specifically told at some point that he had to be exactly at 170.  I haven't read anywhere if he was told that or not.  But this aside, there is still something not right with an "off the record" statement by Mersch, then a later text message that seems to be implying  he never had that conversation. 

4/2/13 10:28 AM
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This comes off so petty.

Somehow Nick managed to find an attorney as strange as his manager.

Can someone rational and normal please get their hands on this guy?

He's a gem of a fighter, but wow, when he's not in the cage fighting, he sure makes lame headlines.
4/2/13 10:35 AM
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"Nick's lawyer, the only person speaking publicly about this, who is talking about filing complaints: "I know this: Georges would have gassed in that fight if he had tried to make weight. Nick said he couldn't believe the power moves that Georges was able to do in the fight. Would he have been able to do those if he had been forced to sweat off the rest of the weight?""

This would be a legitmate complaint IF Nick was specifically told at some point that he had to be exactly at 170.  I haven't read anywhere if he was told that or not.  But this aside, there is still something not right with an "off the record" statement by Mersch, then a later text message that seems to be implying  he never had that conversation. 


Of course there is somthing not right with it Garv. Anyone being objective can see that. 

 

Orcus will defend it until his fingers bleed, but there is something not right about it. 

4/2/13 10:45 AM
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At this point I wish Diaz went to WSOF or something so he could fight guys who would stand in front of him.

He's worse then Rampage with all his bullshit.
4/2/13 12:12 PM
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"Orcus will defend it until his fingers bleed, but there is something not right about it. "

What's there to defend? No one can tell me what happened that was "wrong". Up until Thursday you all -- including Nick's lawyer -- were happy to insist, based on your extensive knowledge, that rounding weights down in a title fight was "wrong", but that turned out to be false. 

 

4/10/13 4:18 AM
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4/10/13 6:10 AM
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Waiting for updates on Tweedale's awesome legal case! Should be hearing something any day now since  he's got such a strong case.

4/10/13 6:36 AM
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Waiting for updates on Tweedale's awesome legal case! Should be hearing something any day now since  he's got such a strong case.


GSP fans are nuts...
1.matt serras crew tell bj penns camp gsp greases
2.bj penns camp ask AC to please watch 4 this
3.during the bj penn vs GSP 2 AC observes phil nurse apply grease all on GSP
4.NOTHING EVER HAPPENS

Now this whole weight thing is with the Diaz fight...GSP is a cheater..It may only to get a small advantage...he may well have won anyways..but the fact remains hes a known cheater hes been caught once b4..now hes been caught using loophole only HE knew about..like if it was so on the up and up why didnt they tell the diaz when he started his camp weeks b4 the fight so he wouldn't have to cut the extra lb???Its obvious GEORGES knew about it....

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