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4/12/13 12:14 AM
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warfrog
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We have been slipping into socialism for the last 100 years, giving up liberty and freedom for security. We deserve neither.
I'm all for goin back to a being republic ...and no masters, as you liberals are all for. The gvmnt isn't lookin out for your interests. It's a bunch of politicians just wanting to get re elected so they can continue to milk the system, milk the lobbyists and special interest groups. And of course you have those of you that favor socialism. Phone Post 3.0
4/12/13 12:54 AM
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Wasa-B
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warfrog, corporate capitalism on roids and trt beyond the gills is not socialism
4/12/13 1:02 AM
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lol @ saying liberals and socialists are the same.

lol @ the guy saying top 1% of economy owning everything "so.... that's socialism, right?"

lol in general.
4/12/13 1:09 AM
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in case you're not some far right wing quasi-fascist type, socialists = people who believe in a fairer distribution of wealth.

in europe, there are socialists in lots of countries. countries run by socialists most of the time (conservatives/liberals sometimes win elections too): norway, denmark, finland, netherlands, france<br />

key features of socialist democracies is a lessening of state power (abolition of capital punishment and draft, abolition of harsh punishments, decriminalization of prostitution and drugs, etc) with a broadening of state responsibility (ensuring the equivalent of $15/USD minimum wage, every worker having 5 weeks paid vacation, every mother having 40 weeks paid maternity leave, etc).

conservatives = center right
liberals = center
socialists = center left

so in france, for example, they have center leftists and centrists only as their major factions. so way more leftist policies get enacted.


in america, we have center rightists and centrists.

key features of socialist democracies is a lessening of state power (abolition of capital punishment and draft, abolition of harsh punishments, decriminalization of prostitution and drugs, etc) with a broadening of state responsibility (ensuring the equivalent of $15/USD minimum wage, every worker having 5 weeks paid vacation, every mother having 40 weeks paid maternity leave, etc).
4/12/13 1:21 PM
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SamboMMA
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"key features of socialist democracies is a lessening of state power (abolition of capital punishment and draft, abolition of harsh punishments"

Do you really think this is something to be proud of? Murderers getting away with murder because that is what is going on in Europe. "Oh we can't give that murderer life without parole. It would ruin his life" [I'm not kidding judges actually say this] is all too common in Courts now.
4/12/13 1:27 PM
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UncleGrappler
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Up, would go the average bad-assness of Iowa Politicians.
4/12/13 1:27 PM
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Up, would go the average bad-assness of Iowa Politicians.
4/12/13 1:54 PM
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Nexuscrawlers
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"key features of socialist democracies is a lessening of state power with a broadening of state responsibility"

impossible imo. by broadening their responsibility, you are giving them more power, not less.


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