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4/16/13 7:47 AM
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Acidic - Shed beat almost any guy on this planet. Shit shed beat the shit out of Mayweather or Pac man
Joking right? Phone Post 3.0
4/16/13 7:52 AM
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Truemanc3 - To many factors.
But.. imo

Against an untrained guy, a trained 140lb woman would kick ass.

Against a 200lb trained guy she is going to struggle.
I'm a 200lbs trained guy... She'd fuck me up with that armbar pretty quick. Bronze medal in the Olympics at 70kgs. That's a serious athlete. Phone Post 3.0
4/16/13 8:00 AM
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We should get to see how Rhonda goes against guys in the next TUF Phone Post 3.0
4/16/13 8:26 AM
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Ronda by armbar.

4/16/13 8:34 AM
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ryans - I've trained MAs since I was 6. I've trained stand up, trained judo and BJJ for years. I'm bigger than her. She would wreck me, and it wouldn't be close.

What you guys need to realise is that strength advantage isn't that important when someone is a world class MAist. Also, most of you guys thinking you're stronger because you're bigger are wrong. I bet her explosive and functional strength after a lifetime of MA (and given the fact that she's excelled) would be greater than most 180lb men.

If you're untrained, go down to a BJJ or judo gym and pick out a small brown belt girl and see how she embarasses you.

Everything you just said is bull.

I have trained sambo,MMA,some bjj,am about 70 pounds heavier than her with very little fat. Have competed in local grappling circuits at HW with limited success due to weak knees and overall laziness but always held my own against guys who went on to be pretty good grapplers/fighters.

If it was a ground scramble she would have a 50% chance of getting an armbar and even that is questionable,I just gave her this much because she's an olympian judoka.

IF the fight began on the feet,MMA rules I am absolutely certain I would beast through her and it wouldn't be close.

I'm sick of this "she would pwn every man under 185 who isn't pro fightaar hurr durr" bull.
She is an amazing female fighter.
But she is female and is genetically weaker than most trained men.



4/16/13 8:38 AM
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normally i would say "stop it" or "irrelevant", but with her game being so 1-dimensional or maybe concentrated is a better word, she could beat many many dudes. if you dont think an Olympian Judoka cant armbah some of these guys with zero counter-wrestling, you are being naive.
4/16/13 8:38 AM
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4/16/13 8:41 AM
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Wicked smahtMF - normally i would say "stop it" or "irrelevant", but with her game being so 1-dimensional or maybe concentrated is a better word, she could beat many many dudes. if you dont think an Olympian Judoka cant armbah some of these guys with zero counter-wrestling, you are being naive.

I agree.

But if a guy is very good at wrestling isn't it dumb to think she would somehow magically pwn him?
Lets all wait for her to fight Cyborg until we proclaim her Queen Bee.
4/16/13 8:44 AM
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Judo toss on concrete would probably end the fight with most dudes. Phone Post 3.0
4/16/13 9:40 AM
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ronda said:

I got jumped by a bunch of guys in a movie theatre and I beat 'em up and then everyone clapped. and then I was like, 'Maybe I should fight in front of people, 'cuz people tend to like it.' That was one of my first MMA experiences. It was like four couples, four guys and four girls. A couple of them headed me off in the aisle. It was like a thing. Their girlfriend was rude and I told her that she was rude and they tried to act tough in front of their girlfriend. She was like knocking me in the head with her boot and was being -- they were that group of people who were just rude and loud throughout the whole movie. And so, I took her boot off and threw it and told her to go get some manners. and then, her boyfriend didn't like that. And her boyfriend's friends didn't like that. So, they headed me off in the aisle and told me to go get the boot. They wouldn't let me leave and they pushed me. So, I was technically in the 'kidnap situation,' I learned this from my lawyer, and was fearing for my life, so I had to defend myself. So I did defend myself very well...and so they sued me. Whatever. the good thing was, it was an aisle, so I had them between the seats and the wall, so they couldn't get around me, so I had them one at a time. So, it was actually a good situation for a multi-person fighting situation."

Rousey continued, discussing the specific strategies she employed to take on the group of disorderlys:

"Well, I tried to get through, and I told them that if they didn't let me through, I'd have to do something about it. So, I tried to get through, and the guy pushed me back, and while he was pushing me, I grabbed him by his shirt and I started punching him with one hand. And, his other friend came behind me and got me by the neck and was pulling me backwards. But, I had his friend by the shirt, so I was still punching him. Then, I dropped the one guy, and the other guy had me by the neck, so I threw him over my shoulder. And my cousin and my friend Marina, they went and grabbed the other guys to keep them out of it, and the one girl was trying to get in and rash me in the face. My friend Marina pushed her out of the way. She went face first into the seats. and then they went and told the police that I punched the girl, which I never did. i just beat up the two guys. and then, um, yeah, it just turned into this big thing. And, uh, the funny thing is, my shoe came off, 'cuz I was fighting in flip flops, like ya do, so everyone was just losing shoes. I threw her shoe, I lost my shoe, everyone's looking for shoes. But, um, it was one of those things that most girls go through."

4/16/13 9:44 AM
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I am 210 lbs with 20 years of various MA experience, I would be shocked if she didn't beat me up
4/16/13 9:59 AM
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Shes not beating a game dude who is 200 pounds or more with or without training if hes in half the shape she is in. Just too big. A guy her size I can see. 200 pounder or better IMO no.
4/16/13 12:39 PM
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Yoghurt - 
ryans - I've trained MAs since I was 6. I've trained stand up, trained judo and BJJ for years. I'm bigger than her. She would wreck me, and it wouldn't be close.

What you guys need to realise is that strength advantage isn't that important when someone is a world class MAist. Also, most of you guys thinking you're stronger because you're bigger are wrong. I bet her explosive and functional strength after a lifetime of MA (and given the fact that she's excelled) would be greater than most 180lb men.

If you're untrained, go down to a BJJ or judo gym and pick out a small brown belt girl and see how she embarasses you.

Everything you just said is bull.

I have trained sambo,MMA,some bjj,am about 70 pounds heavier than her with very little fat. Have competed in local grappling circuits at HW with limited success due to weak knees and overall laziness but always held my own against guys who went on to be pretty good grapplers/fighters.

If it was a ground scramble she would have a 50% chance of getting an armbar and even that is questionable,I just gave her this much because she's an olympian judoka.

IF the fight began on the feet,MMA rules I am absolutely certain I would beast through her and it wouldn't be close.

I'm sick of this "she would pwn every man under 185 who isn't pro fightaar hurr durr" bull.
She is an amazing female fighter.
But she is female and is genetically weaker than most trained men.




Maybe you, as a HW, in shape, MMA trained male would win. But not an average male.


I'm not saying she would wreck huge mma guys, but she would wreck me, and would *certainly* wreck your average guy.

You are not the type of guy we are talking about.
4/16/13 12:49 PM
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I swear lately it is like being back in the dark ages of MMA on the UG... How could such a small guy beat such a big guy with muscles? Same exact scenario, however now it is just with a woman instead of a man. The results, however remain the same. The highly trained woman wins...end of story.
4/16/13 12:57 PM
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I'm 6'2" and 230, and unless the first punch I throw KO's her, I'm gonna get raped...and I'll like it.
4/16/13 1:26 PM
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The average adult male in America is 20 pounds overweight, hasn't done any sport (golf doesn't count) since high school, and would probably have a heart attack after even a minute of fighting.

It wouldn't even be close. Average trained guy - depends upon what "trained" means. Rousey would lose in randori to lighter male judoka who weren't quite national level, but who trained seriously (ie five days a week of judo for a couple of hours a day. I suspect the same would be true for MMA. Guys who train an hour or two a week aren't going to do well, unless they're very fit and big. An NFL linebacker who's trained MMA twice a week for several years is going to win.
4/16/13 1:45 PM
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"In 500 BC, Heraclitus...wrote to his commander, 'Of every 100 men, 10 should not even be here, 80 are nothing more than targets. Nine of them are the real fighters, we are lucky to have them, they the battle make. Ah, but the one. One of them is a warrior and he will bring the others back." Bryan Willis, from The Warrior Pyramid.

 

Thee "average dude" will not even fight, let alone scrap with an Olympic judokah.

9 out of 10 "average" guys, when mouthing-off comes to fists, will not fight.  They will roll and pee.

Thee "average dude" has not been in a real fight since gradeschool, and has never been in a serious, dangerous, scrap in his entire life.

 

Let's say a 6' 00", 220 pound, 48-year old, in good shape - works on his farm, former bouncer of nearly 3-decades, who LOVES to fight.  Who has been in more street/bar fights than...well anybody who has not thrown folks out of bars for 27-years.  You do the math.

I am waaaaaaay ahead of the "average dude."  I would (indeed have done so) launch a half-dozen "average dudes" out of a bar, on their asses, with a big mean grin on my face.  Verbally berating, man-handling, rag-dolling and taunting them as I did it.

Unless I took Ronda totally by surprise (sneak attack, I'm good at them), and hurt her really badly in the initial "hands on" (I'm good at that too), Ronda would wreck me.  Without any question in my mind.

Shake my head, at any "average dudes" that think you can whoop a 150-lb walking weight female, MMA-professional, former Olympic Judokah.  Good fucking luck.

You know what Ronda would do?  SLAM your silly 180 to 200-lb "average" male ass off the concrete or tile like you weighed nothing.  Wrap up an exposed limb and break it.

Ronda all day long.

 

 

 

4/16/13 1:49 PM
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We need her address

A grainy cell phone camera

An OG'r

and some one to scream WWOORRLLLDDDD SSTTAARRRR

Then we'll have our answer. Phone Post 3.0
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Da Ghost - Stupid question

Stupid thread

In before dickheads that try to say they would beat her because they are bigger and weigh more.... Meh! Phone Post
This. Anyone that thinks the average guy would simply KO her because she's female and he's male has just revealed that they have never studied or trained in the martial arts, and know nothing of MMA.

She may take a punch or two, but she would get them to the ground and it would be over. Phone Post 3.0
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Is this the alphabet thread where if we make it to Z the op gets banned?!

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ShawnTheBadger -

"In 500 BC, Heraclitus...wrote to his commander, 'Of every 100 men, 10 should not even be here, 80 are nothing more than targets. Nine of them are the real fighters, we are lucky to have them, they the battle make. Ah, but the one. One of them is a warrior and he will bring the others back." Bryan Willis, from The Warrior Pyramid.

 

Thee "average dude" will not even fight, let alone scrap with an Olympic judokah.

9 out of 10 "average" guys, when mouthing-off comes to fists, will not fight.  They will roll and pee.

Thee "average dude" has not been in a real fight since gradeschool, and has never been in a serious, dangerous, scrap in his entire life.

 

Let's say a 6' 00", 220 pound, 48-year old, in good shape - works on his farm, former bouncer of nearly 3-decades, who LOVES to fight.  Who has been in more street/bar fights than...well anybody who has not thrown folks out of bars for 27-years.  You do the math.

I am waaaaaaay ahead of the "average dude."  I would (indeed have done so) launch a half-dozen "average dudes" out of a bar, on their asses, with a big mean grin on my face.  Verbally berating, man-handling, rag-dolling and taunting them as I did it.

Unless I took Ronda totally by surprise (sneak attack, I'm good at them), and hurt her really badly in the initial "hands on" (I'm good at that too), Ronda would wreck me.  Without any question in my mind.

Shake my head, at any "average dudes" that think you can whoop a 150-lb walking weight female, MMA-professional, former Olympic Judokah.  Good fucking luck.

You know what Ronda would do?  SLAM your silly 180 to 200-lb "average" male ass off the concrete or tile like you weighed nothing.  Wrap up an exposed limb and break it.

Ronda all day long.

 

 

 

Wow VTFU good post. Phone Post 3.0
4/16/13 2:00 PM
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She would maul the average man. She would even beat up a good chunk of mma fighters who are much smaller than her.


She WOULD NOT beat up males in the UFC that are in her weight division.
4/16/13 2:07 PM
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Let's re-phrase this question to be more accurate:

150-pound Olympic judoka vs. 160-pound, untrained person-off-the-street - who wins?

The answer is clear.
4/16/13 2:07 PM
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Average dudes never lose....just ask.....average dudes.

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